920009_Permit Renewal_20200414

Kloempken, Gretel
From: Kloempken, Gretel
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:49 PM
To: Bernard, Jane
Cc: Frost, Monty R
Subject: FW: Hunt Horse Complex Permit
Attachments: 06-24-19 Waste Management Permit.pdf; 06-24-19 Waste Management Plan
Original.pdf; Brooks.pdf; Cackalacky.pdf; [Untitled]_2019062410134000.pdf
Jane:
Here is the paperwork that was originally sent.
From: Kloempken, Gretel
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 11:28 AM
To: Bernard, Jane <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hunt Horse Complex Permit
Good Morning Jane:
I've attached our permit application, the original Waste Management Plan, stall usage for the year along with the
contracts for the stall cleaner and waste hauler. Since the contracts usually are awarded for one year with
extensions/renewals for additional years, the attachments have the original contract with the renewal at the end.
If there is additional information needed, or if any questions arise please let me know.
Thanks for your help!
Gretel Kloempken
NCDA & CS I NC State Fair Division
Hunt Horse Complex
Phone: [phone]
Physical: 4601 Trinity Road j Raleigh, NC 27607
Mailing: 1010 Mali Service Center I Raleigh, NC 27699

Kloempken. Gretel
From: Lawson, Christine
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 2:20 PM
To: Kloempken, Gretel
Subject: RE: Permitting Questions
You don't have it because I didn't do it yet. Sorry.
I just finished a project today, so I will work on yours before something else jumps in front of it.
Thank you so much for checking in with me!
Christine B. Lawson
Engineer
919 707 3664 office
984 232 1223 mobile
Christine, LawsonCa)_ncdenr, gov
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From: Kloempken, Gretel <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 2:18 PM
To: Lawson, Christine <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Permitting Questions
Christine:
It's been awhile since we were last in touch. I still have not received our permit and our next inspection is scheduled for
October 9th. Please send a copy so that we can show we're in compliance.
Thanks!
Gretel Kloempken
NCDA & CS 1 NC State Fair Division
Hunt Horse Complex
Phone: [phone]
Physical: 4601 Trinity Road I Raleigh, NC 27607
Mailing: 1010 Mail Service Center j Raleigh, NC 27699
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From: Lawson, Christine <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 4:24 PM
To: Kloempken, Gretel <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Permitting Questions
Ms. Kloempken,
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Thank you for speaking with me this afternoon. Capital Dumpster Service does not currently have a manure hauler
certificate. Only third party haulers that haul/land apply 100 tons/year or more are required to be registered as a
Manure Hauler. Obtaining a Manure Hauler Certificate is a simple process and can be done fairly quickly. The rules
regarding Manure Haulers are found in Section _1400 of 1SA NCAC 02T.
The Manure Hauler Registration Form can be found on our website.
Christine B. Lawson
Engineer
Animal Feeding Operations Program
Department of Environmental Quality
919 707 3664 office
984 232 1223 mobile
Christine. Lawson(a7ncdenr. goy
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From: Kloempken, Gretel <GreteI.KloempkenPo.. ncagr.gov>
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 3:05 PM
To: Lawson, Christine <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Permitting Questions
Just checking in again to if we have any word on the permitting.
From: Lawson, Christine <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 4:44 PM
To: Kloempken, Gretel <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Permitting Questions
Yes, I am so sorry. I got busy and it slipped my mind — it happens so easily, I am embarrassed to say. I am working on
something for our attorneys right now, but can I get with you tomorrow (Thursday)?
Christine B. Lawson
Engineer
Animal Feeding Operations Program
Department of Environmental Quality
919 707 3664 office
984 232 1223 mobile
Christine_ Lawsonancdenr. qov
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From: Kloempken, Gretel <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 2:35 PM
To: Lawson, Christine <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: Permitting Questions
Christine:
Sorry to bother you again, but thought I'd check in since I haven't heard anything. I know that some of my emails
haven't gone through and think it might be the State server.
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From: Kloempken, Gretel
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:13 PM
To: Lawson, Christine <Christine.Lawsonnc_d_ enrgoy>
Subject: Permitting Questions
Good Afternoon Christine:
I was directed to you by the help desk as I have some questions regarding a permit. We recently put a service out to bid
and our lowest bidder was a company that we haven't used previously. I'm following up to make sure that they are
permitted to haul our waste to the facility noted on their bid and that the facility is permitted to accept it. Having
previously owned a company that went through the permit process, I'm very conscious that we verify all information
and processes.
Our waste consists of stall shavings (wood product) and horse manure. These are loaded into 30 yard dumpsters and
hauled and disposed of. The low bid was from Capital Dumpster Service, LLC of Knightdale. They listed Wall Recycling at
520 Pristine Water Dr., Apex as their waste facility. I show that disposal facility as having permit 9240-MWP-2017.
Would you please verify that these two companies are permitted to haul and accept our waste? If not, please direct me
to where I can find that information.
Thank you for your assistance with this matter.
Gretel Kloempken
NC State Fair - Hunt Horse Complex
1025 Blue Ridge Road
Raleigh, NC 27607
919-839-4701
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