SW8060650_HISTORICAL FILE_20141124

STORMWATER DIVISION CODING SHEET
POST -CONSTRUCTION PERMITS
PERMIT NO.
SW8 U �Q Ole 5U
DOC TYPE
❑ CURRENT PERMIT
❑ APPROVED PLANS
HISTORICAL FILE
❑ COMPLIANCE EVALUATION INSPECTION
DOC DATE
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NCDENR
North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources
Pat McCrory
Governor
November 24, 2014
Mr. Keith Walker, Manager
Emmerdale, LLC
PO Box 2400
Beaufort, NC 28516
Subject: State Stormwater Management Permit No. SW8 060650
Emmerdale Apartments
High Density Wet Detention Pond Project
Onslow County
Dear Mr. Walker:
John E. Skvarla, III
Secretary
Effective August 1, 2013, the State Stormwater program was transferred from the Division of Water
Quality (DWQ) to the Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources (DEMLR). Please note that this
letter and permit references DEMLR as the Division responsible for issuance of the permit.
The Wilmington Regional Office received a complete, modified Stormwater Management Permit
Application for Emmerdale Apartments on November 21, 2014. Staff review of the plans and
specifications has determined that the project, as proposed, will comply with the Stormwater
Regulations set forth in Title 15A NCAC 2H.1000 and Session Law 2008-211, as applicable. We are
forwarding Permit No. SW8 060650 dated November 24, 2014, for the construction, operation and
maintenance of the BMP's and built -upon areas associated with the subject project.
On August 5, 2009, the Governor signed Session Law 2009-406. This law impacted any development
approval issued by the former Division of Water Quality under Article 21 of Chapter 143 of the General
Statutes, which was current and valid at any point between January 1, 2008, and December 31, 2010.
The law extended the effective period of any stormwater permit that was set to expire during this time
frame to three (3) years from its current expiration date. On August 2, 2010, the Governor signed
Session Law 2010-177, which granted an extra year for a total of four (4) years extension. Accordingly,
this permit shall now be effective from the date of issuance until July 17, 2020, which includes all
available extensions. The permittee and/or project remain subject to the conditions and limitations as
specified therein.
Please pay special attention to the conditions listed in this permit regarding the Operation and
Maintenance of the BMP(s), recordation of deed restrictions, procedures for changing ownership,
transferring the permit, and renewing the permit. Failure to establish an adequate system for operation
and maintenance of the stormwater management system, to record deed restrictions, to transfer the
permit, or to renew the permit, will result in future compliance problems.
The following modifications are included and covered by this permit:
• The addition of on -site built -upon area associated with the driveway and sidewalk connection to
the adjacent property, Wellington Grove (SW8 120110), and draining to Pond 2.
If any parts, requirements, or limitations contained in this permit are unacceptable, you have the right to
request an adjudicatory hearing by filing a written petition with the Office of Administrative Hearings
(OAH). The written petition must conform to Chapter 150E of the North Carolina General Statutes, and
must be filed with the OAH within thirty (30) days of receipt of this permit. You should contact the OAH
with all questions regarding the filing fee (if a filing fee is required) and/or the details of the filing
process at 6714 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-6714, or via telephone at 919-431-3000, or
visit their website at www.NCOAH.com. Unless such demands are made this permit shall be final and
binding.
Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
Land Quality Section — Wilmington Regional Office
127 Cardinal Drive Extension, Wilmington, North Carolina 28405 • [phone] / Fax: [phone]

State Stormwater Management systems
Permit No. SW8 060650
If you have any questions, or need additional information concerning this matter, please contact
Christine Nelson in the Wilmington Regional Office, at [phone].
Sinc rely,
gm Tracy Davis, P.E., Director
Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
GDS/can: \\\Stormwater\Permits & Projects\2006\060650 HD\2014 11 permit 060650
cc: David Newsom, Crystal Coast Engineering
Wilmington Regional Office Stormwater File
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State Stormwater Management Systems
Permit No. SW8 060650
STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES
DIVISION OF ENERGY, MINERAL AND LAND RESOURCES
STATE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT
HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT
In accordance with the provisions of Article 21 of Chapter 143, General Statutes of North
Carolina as amended, and other applicable Laws, Rules, and Regulations
PERMISSION IS HEREBY GRANTED TO
Emmerdale, LLC
Emmerdale Apartments
Carolina Forest Blvd, Jacksonville, Onslow County
FOR THE
construction, operation and maintenance of two (2) wet detention pond(s) in compliance with
the provisions of 15A NCAC 2H .1000 and Session Law 2008-211, as applicable, (hereafter
referred to as the "stormwater rules') the approved stormwater management plans and
specifications and other supporting data as attached and on file with and approved by the
Division and considered a part of this permit.
This permit shall be effective from the date of issuance until July 17, 2020, and shall be
subject to the following specified conditions and limitations:
I. DESIGN STANDARDS
1. This permit is effective only with respect to the nature and volume of stormwater
described in the application and other supporting data.
2. This stormwater system has been approved for the management of stormwater runoff
as described in Section 1.6 of this permit. The runoff from all built -upon area within the
permitted drainage areas of this project must be directed into the permitted stormwater
control systems. The stormwater controls labeled Pond 1 and Pond 2 have been
designed to handle the runoff from 59,141 and 73,768 square feet of built -upon area,
respectively.
3. The maximum built -upon area allowed for the entire project is 132,909 square feet.
4. The drainage areas will be limited to the amounts of built -upon area indicated in
Sections 1.2 and 1.6 of this permit, and per approved plans. There is no allocation of
future built -upon area for this development.
5. A vegetated filter strip is not required for this pond as it has been designed for a 90%
total suspended solids removal efficiency.
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Permit No. SW8 060650
6. The following design criteria have been provided in the wet detention pond and must
be maintained at design condition:
Design Criteria
Pond 1
Pond 2
a. Drainage Area, acres:
Onsite, subject to 1995 Rules, ft2:
Onsite, subject to SL 2008-211, ft2:
Offsite, ft2:
2.09
91,040
0
None
2.40
102,366
2,394
None
b. Total Impervious Surfaces, ft:
Onsite, subject to 1995 Rules, ft2:
Onsite, subject to SL 2008-211, ft2:
Offsite, ft2:
59,141
59,141
0
None
73,768
72,438
1,330
None
c. Design Storm, inches:
1995 Rules, ft2:
SL 2008-211, ft2:
1.0
n/a
1.0
1.5
d. Pond Depth, ft:
5.0
5.0
e. TSS removal efficiency, W
90
90
f. Permanent Pool Elev, FMSL:
44.0
g. Perm. Pool Surface Area, ft :
442.5
,508
5,569
h. Permitted Temporary Storage Volume, ft:
4,997
6,034
i. Temporary Storage Elev., FMSL:
43.49
44.99
j. Controlling Orifice, ' i e:
1.0
1.0
k. Permanent Pool Volume, ft :
7,522
13,659
k. Forebay Volume, ft:
1,585
2,828
I. Maximum Fountain Horsepower:
n/a
n/a
m. Receiving Stream/River Basin:
UT Half Moon Creek /
White Oak
n. Stream Index Number:
19-6
o. Classification of Water Body:
C; NSW
II. SCHEDULE OF COMPLIANCE
No person or entity, including the permittee, shall alter any component of the approved
stormwater system shown on the approved plans unless and until the Division has
approved of the revised plan.
2. The stormwater management system shall be constructed in its entirety, vegetated
and operational for its intended use prior to the construction of any built -upon surface.
During construction, erosion shall be kept to a minimum and any eroded areas of the
system will be repaired immediately.
4. The permittee shall at all times provide the operation and maintenance necessary to
assure that all components of the permitted stormwater system function at design
condition. The approved Operation and Maintenance Agreement is incorporated by
reference into this permit and must be followed in its entirety and maintenance must
occur at the scheduled intervals.
Records of maintenance activities must be kept and made available upon request to
authorized personnel of the Division. The records will indicate the date, activity, name
of person performing the work and what actions were taken.
Decorative spray fountains will not be allowed in the stormwater treatment systems, as
the permanent pool volumes of both ponds are less than 30,000 cf.
The facilities shall be constructed in accordance with the conditions of this permit, the
approved plans and specifications, and other supporting data.
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State Stormwater Management Systems
Permit No. SW8 060650
8. Upon completion of construction, prior to issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy, and
prior to operation of this permitted facility, the permittee shall cause a certification from
an appropriate designer for the system installed to be submitted, certifying that the
permitted facility has been installed in accordance with this permit, the approved plans
and specifications, and other supporting documentation. Any deviations from the
approved plans and specifications must be noted on the Certification. A modification
may be required for those deviations.
9. If the stormwater system is used as an Erosion Control device, it must be restored to
design condition prior to operation as a stormwater treatment device, and prior to
occupancy of the facility.
10. All stormwater collection and treatment systems must be located in either public.
rights -of -way, dedicated common areas or recorded easements. The final plats for the
project will be recorded showing all such rights -of -way, common areas and
easements, in accordance with the approved plans. Access to the stormwater facilities
for inspection and maintenance shall be maintained via appropriate recorded
easements at all times.
11. The permittee shall submit to the Director and shall have received approval for revised
plans, specifications, and calculations prior to construction, for any modification to the
approved plans, including, but not limited to, those listed below:
a. Any revision to any item shown on the approved plans, including the
stormwater management measures, built -upon area, details, etc.
b. Redesign or addition to the approved amount of built -upon area or to the
drainage area.
C. Further development, subdivision, acquisition, lease or sale of any, all or part of
the project area. The project area is defined as all property owned by the
permittee, for which Sedimentation and Erosion Control Plan approval or a
CAMA Major permit was sought.
d. Filling in, altering, or piping of any vegetative conveyance shown on the
approved plan.
e. The construction of any future BUA listed on the application.
12. Prior to transfer of the permit, the stormwater facilities will be inspected by Division
personnel. The project and the stormwater facility must be in substantial compliance
with all permit.conditions. Any items not in substantial compliance must be repaired,
replaced or restored to design condition prior to the transfer. Records of maintenance
activities performed to date will be required.
13. The Director may notify the permittee when the permitted site does not meet one or
more of the minimum requirements of the permit. Within the time frame specified in
the notice, the permittee shall submit a written time schedule to the Director for
modifying the site to meet minimum requirements. The permittee shall provide copies
of revised plans and certification in writing to the Director that the changes have been
made.
III. GENERAL CONDITIONS
Any individual or entity found to be in noncompliance with the provisions of a
stormwater management permit or the Stormwater rules is subject to enforcement
procedures as set forth in NCGS 143 Article 21.
2. The issuance of this permit does not preclude the Permittee from complying with any
and all statutes, rules, regulations, or ordinances, which may be imposed by other
government agencies (local, state, and federal) having jurisdiction.
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State Stormwater Management Systems
Permit No. SW8 060650
3. In the event that the facilities fail to perform satisfactorily the Permittee shall take
immediate corrective action, including those as may be required by this Division, such
as the construction of additional or replacement stormwater management systems.
Additional or replacement stormwater management systems shall receive a permit
from the Division prior to construction.
4. This permit is not transferable to any person or entity except after notice to and
approval by the Director. The permittee shall submit a completed and signed
Name/Ownership Change Form, accompanied by the supporting documentation as
listed on the form, to the Division at least 60 days prior to any one or more of the
following events:
a. An ownership change including the subdivision, sale or conveyance of the project
area in whole or in part;
b. The sale or conveyance of the common areas to a Homeowner's or Property
Owner's Association, subject to the requirements of Session Law 2011-256;
c. Bankruptcy;
d. Foreclosure;
e. Dissolution of the partnership or corporate entity;
f. A name change of the current permittee;
g. A name change of the project;
h. A mailing address change of the permittee;
5. The permittee is responsible for compliance with all permit conditions until such time
as the Division approves the transfer request. Neither the sale of the project, in whole
or in part, nor the conveyance of common area to a third party constitutes an
approved transfer of the stormwater permit.
6. The permittee grants DENR Staff permission to enter the property during normal
business hours for the purpose of inspecting all components of the permitted
stormwater management facility.
7. The permit issued shall continue in force and effect until modified, revoked, terminated
or renewed. The permit may be modified, revoked and reissued or terminated for
cause. The filing of a request for a permit modification, revocation and re -issuance or
termination does not stay any permit condition.
Approved plans and specifications for this project are incorporated by reference and
are enforceable parts of the permit. The permittee shall maintain a copy of the permit,
O&M agreements, and the approved plans at all times.
Unless specified elsewhere, permanent seeding requirements for the stormwater
control must follow the guidelines established in the North Carolina Erosion and
Sediment Control Planning and Design Manual.
10. The issuance of this permit does not prohibit the Director from reopening and
modifying the permit, revoking and reissuing the permit, or terminating the permit as
allowed by the laws, rules and regulations contained in Session Law 2006-246, Title
15A NCAC 2H.1000, and NCGS 143-215.1 et.al.
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State Stormwater Management Systems.
Permit No. SW8 060656
11. The permittee shall submit a permit renewal application request at least 180 days prior
to the expiration date of this permit. The renewal request must include the appropriate
application, documentation and the processing fee.
Permit modified and reissued this the 24t" day of November 2014.
NO TH CAROLINA ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT COMMISSION
T acy Dav , P.E., Direc or
Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
By Authority of the Environmental Management Commission
Permit Number SW8 060650
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State Stormwater Management Systems
Permit No. SW8 060650
Emmerdale Apartments
Stormwater Permit No. SW8 060650
Onslow County
Designer's Certification
I, , as a duly registered in the State
of North Carolina, having been authorized to observe (periodically/ weekly/ full time) the
construction of the project,
(Project)
for (Project Owner) hereby state that, to the best
of my abilities, due care and diligence was used in the observation of the project construction
such that the construction was observed to be built within substantial compliance and intent
of the approved plans and specifications.
The checklist of items on page 2 of this form is included in the Certification.
Noted deviations from approved plans and specifications:
Signature
Registration Number
Date
SEAL
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State Stormwater Management Systems
Permit No. SW8 060650
Certification Requirements:
1. The drainage area to the system contains approximately the permitted acreage.
2. The drainage area to the system contains no more than the permitted amount
of built -upon area.
3. All the built -upon area associated with the project is graded such that the runoff
drains to the system.
4. All roof drains are located such that the runoff is directed into the system.
5. The outlet structure elevations are per the approved plan.
6. The outlet structure is located per the approved plans.
7. Trash rack is provided on the outlet structure.
8. All slopes are grassed with permanent vegetation.
9. Vegetated slopes are no steeper than. 3:1.
10. The inlets are located per the approved plans and do not cause short-circuiting
of the system.
11. The permitted amounts of surface area and/or volume have been provided.
12. Required drawdown devices are correctly sized and located per the approved
plans.
13. All required design depths are provided.
14. All required parts of the system are provided, such as a vegetated shelf, and a
forebay.
15. The required system dimensions are provided per the approved plans.
16. All components of the stormwater BMP are located in either recorded common
areas, or recorded easements.
cc: NCDENR-DEMLR Wilmington Regional Office
Onslow County Building Inspections
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DEMLR USE ONLY
ate ecci
ed
Fee Paid
Permit Number
D,
Applica e Rules:
(select all that apply)
❑ Coastal SW -1995 ❑ Coastal SW - 2008 ❑ Ph II - Post Construction
❑ Non -Coastal SW- HQW/ORW Waters ❑ Universal Stormwater Management Plan
❑ Other WQ Mgmt Plan:
State of North Carolina
Department of Environment and Natural Resources
Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT APPLICATION FORM
This farm may be photocopied for use as an original
I. GENERAL INFORMATION
1. Project Name (subdivision, facility, or establishment name -should be consistent with project name on plans,
specifications, letters, operation and maintenance agreements, etc.):
Emmerdale Apartments
2. Location of Project (street address):
Carolina Forest Boulevard
City: Jacksonville County:Onslow Zip:28540
3. Directions to project (from nearest major intersection):
From intersection of US 17 and NC 53 (Western Blvd) in Jacksonville North on NC 53 approximately 2 1
miles to Carolina Forest Blvd, right on Carolina Forest Blvd. & go approx. 0.35 miles - site on right.
4. Latitude:34° 48' 14" N Longitude:77° 24' 43" W of the main entrance to the project.
It. PERMIT INFORMATION:
1. a. Specify whether project is (check one): ❑New ®Modification ❑ Renewal w/ Modificationt
tRenewals with modifications also requires SWU-102 - Renewal Application Form
b.If this application is being submitted as the result of a modification to an existing permit, list the existing
permit numberSW8 060650, its issue date (if known)7/17/06 and the status of
construction: ❑Not Started ❑Partially Completed* ® Completed* *provide a designer's certification
2. Specify the type of project (check one):
❑Low Density ®High Density ❑Drains to an Offsite Stormwater System ❑Other
3. If this application is being submitted as the result of a previously returned application or a letter from
DEMLR requesting a state stormwater management permit application, list the stq m ate p�pt number,
if assigned, and the previous name of the project, if different -than currently
proposed, OCT � 7 2�14�
4. a. Additional Project Requirements (check applicable blanks; information on required state permtts can e
.p
obtained by contacting the Customer Service Center at 1-877-623-6748): BY:--
❑CAMA Major ❑Sedimentation/Erosion Control: ac of Disturbed Area
❑NPDES Industrial Stormwater ❑404/401 Permit: Proposed Impacts
b.If any of these permits have already been acquired please provide the Project Name, Project/Permit Number,
issue date and the type of each permit:Project complete - modification of SW permit ONLY.
5. Is the project located within 5 miles of a public airport? ®No ❑Ye
If yes, see S.L. 2012-200, Part VI: http://12ortal.ncdenr.org/web/Ir/rules-and-regulations
Form SWU-101 Version Oct. 31, 2013 Page I of 6

III. CONTACT INFORMATION
I. a. Print Applicant / Signing Official's name and title (specifically the developer, property owner, lessee,
designated government official, individual, etc. who ownsthe project):
Applicant/Organization:Emmerdale. LLC
Signing Official & Title:Keith Walker, Manager
b.Contact information for person listed in item la above:
Street Address:108 Professional Park Dr.
City:Beaufort State:NC Zip:28516
Mailing Address (if applicable):PO Box 2400
City:Beaufort State:NC Zip:28516
Phone: (252 ) 504-3996 Fax:
Email:[e-mail]
c. Please check the appropriate box. The applicant listed above is:
® The property owner (Skip to Contact Information, item 3a)
❑ Lessee* (Attach a copy of the lease agreement and complete Contact Information, item 2a and 2b below)
❑ Purchaser* (Attach a copy of the pending sales agreement and complete Contact Information, item 2a and
2b below)
❑ Developer* (Complete Contact Information, item 2a and 2b below.)
2. a. Print Property Owner's name and title below, if you are the lessee, purchaser or developer. (This is the
person who owns the property that the project is located on):
Property
Signing Official &
b.Contact information for person listed in item 2a above:
Street Address:
Mailing Address (if
Phone:
Fax:
Zip:
3. a. (Optional) Print the name and title of another contact such as the project's construction supervisor or other
person who can answer questions about the project: 1z:0,
nE( F-WV'-p
Other Contact Person/Oreanization: I,
Signing Official &
b.Contact information for person listed in item 3a above:
Mailing Address:
City: Stat,
Phone: ( 1 Fax:
Email:
4. Local jurisdiction for building permits: City of Jacksonville
Point of ContactDenny Bryan Phone #: (910 ) 938-5235
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IV. PROJECT INFORMATION
1. In the space provided below, briefly summarize how the stormwater runoff will be treated.
Modification to allow an additional 860 sf BUA (from Wellington Grove project) Additonal stormwater
runoff assocaited with this BUA will be diverted to existing Wet Pond No. 2 (no change to BUA tributary to
2. a. If claiming vested rights, identify the supporting documents provided and the date they were approved:
❑ Approval of a Site Specific Development Plan or PUD Approval Date:
❑ Valid Building Permit Issued Date:
❑ Other: Date:
b.If claiming vested rights, identify the regulation(s) the project has been designed in accordance with:
❑ Coastal SW —1995 ❑ Ph II — Post Construction
3. Stormwater runoff from this project drains to the White Oak River basin.
4. Total Property Area: 8.43 acres 5. Total Coastal Wetlands Area: -0- acres
6. Total Surface Water Area: -0- acres
7: Total Property Area (4) — Total Coastal Wetlands Area (5) — Total Surface Water Area (6) = Total Project
Area':8.43 acres
Total project area shall be calculated to exclude the following the normal pool of impounded structures, the area
between the banks of streams and rivers, the area below the Normal High Water (NHW) line or Mean High Water
(MHW) line, and coastal wetlands landward from the NHW (or MHW) line. The resultant project area is used to
calculate overall percent built upon area (BUA). Non -coastal wetlands landward of the NHW (or MHW) line may
be included in the total project area.
8. Project percent of impervious area: (Total Impervious Area / Total Project Area) X 100 = 36.07 %
9. How many drainage areas does the project have?2 (For high density, count I for each proposed engineered
stormwater BMP. For low density and other projects, use I for the whole property area)
10. Complete the following information for each drainage area identified in Project Information item 9. If there
are more than four drainage areas in the project, attach an additional sheet with the information for each area
provided in the same format as below.
UVE
rou
07 2014
BY: ------
Form SWU-101 Version Oct. 31, 2013 Page 3 of 7

Basin Information
Draina e Area
Drainage Area
Drainage Area
Drainage Area
Receiving Stream Name
UT Half Moon
Creek
UT Half Moon
Creek
Stream Class
C;NSW
C;NSW
Stream Index Number *
19-6
19-6
Total Drainage Area (sf)
91,040
104,760
On -site Drainage Area (sf)
91,040
104,760
Off -site Drainage Area (sf)
-0-
-0-
Proposed Impervious Area** (so
59,141
1 73,768
% Impervious Area** (total)
65.0%
1 70.4
Impervious' Surface Area
Drainage Area
Drainage Area
Drainage Area _
Drainage Area _
On -site Buildings/Lots (sf)
-0-
-0-
6m-site Streets (sf)
-0-
628
On -site Parking (so
-0-
-0-
On-site Sidewalks (sf)
-0-
702
Other on -site (sf)
-0-
-0-
Future (so
-0-
-0-
Off-site (sf)
-0-
-0-
Existing BUA*** (sf)
59,141
72,438
Total (sf):
59,141
73,768
* Stream Class and Index Number can be determined at: http://portal.ncdenr.org/web/wq/ps/esu/classifications
Impervious area is defined as the built upon area including, but not limited to, buildings, roads, parking areas,
sidewalks, gravel areas, etc.
* Report only that amount of existing BUA that will remain after development. Do not report any existing BUA that
is to be removed and which will be replaced by new BUA.
11. How was the off -site impervious area listed above determined? Provide documentation.
Projects in Union County: Contact DEMLR Central Office staff to check if the project iIIpcmeawiPTI-n a Threat &
Endangered Species watershed that may be subject to more stringent stormwater requirements Merd J 1JffW .0600.
V. SUPPLEMENT AND O&M FORMS 0i
The applicable state stormwater management permit supplement and operation a2maintenanc forms
must be submitted for each BMP specified for this project. The latest versions of the forms can be downloaded
from htto://portal.ncdenr.org/web/wq/ws/su/bmp-manual.
VI. SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS
Only complete application packages will be accepted and reviewed by the Division of Energy, Mineral and
Land Resources (DEMLR). A complete package includes all of the items listed below. A detailed application
instruction sheet and BMP checklists are available from
htti2:////portal.ncdenr.org/web/wq/ws/su/statesw/forms does. The complete application package should be
submitted to the appropriate DEMLR Office. (The appropriate office may be found by locating project on the
interactive online map atht_pt ://portal.ncdenr.org/web/wq/ws/su/maps.)
Please indicate that the following required information have been provided by initialing in the space provided
for each item. All original documents MUST be signed and initialed in blue ink. Download the latest versions
for each submitted application package from htto://portal.ncdenr.org/web/wq/ws/su/statesw/forms does.
Initials
1. Original and one copy of the Stormwa ter Management Permit Application Form.
2. Original and one copy of the signed and notarized Deed Restrictions & Protective Covenants
Form. (if required as per Part VII below) �,A /
3. Original of the applicable Supplement Form(s) (sealed, signed and dated) and O&M
agreement(s) for each BMP.
4. Permit application processing fee of $505 payable to NCDENR. (For an Express review, refer to
http://www.envhelp.org/pages/onestopexpress.html for information on the Express program
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and the associated fees. Contact the appropriate regional office Express Permit Coordinator for
additional information and to schedule the required application meeting.)
5. A detailed narrative (one to two pages) describing the stormwater treatment/management for
the project. This is required in addition to the brief summary provided in the Project
Information, item 1.
6. A USGS map identifying the site location. If the receiving stream is reported as class SA or the
receiving stream drains to class SA waters within 33z mile of the site boundary, include the 11-2
mile radius the map.
7. Sealed, signed
and dated calculations (one copy).
8. Two sets of plans folded to 8.5" x 14" (sealed, signed, & dated), including:
a. Development/Project name.
b. Engineer and firm.
c. Location map with named streets and NCSR numbers.
d. Legend.
e. North arrow.
I. Scale.
g. Revision number and dates.
h. Identify all surface waters on the plans by delineating the normal pool elevation of
impounded structures, the banks of streams and rivers, the MHW or NHW line of tidal
waters, and any coastal wetlands landward of the MHW or NHW lines.
• Delineate the vegetated buffer landward from the normal pool elevation of impounded
structures, the banks of streams or rivers, and the MHW (or NHW) of tidal waters.
i. Dimensioned property/project boundary with bearings & distances.
j. Site Layout with all BUA identified and dimensioned.
k. Existing contours, proposed contours, spot elevations, finished floor elevations.
1. Details of roads, drainage features, collection systems, and stormwater control measures.
m. Wetlands delineated, or a note on the plans that none exist. (Must be delineated by a
qualified person. Provide documentation of qualifications and identify the person who
made the determination on the plans.
n. Existing drainage (including off -site), drainage easements, pipe sizes, runoff calculations.
o. Drainage areas delineated (included in the main set of plans, not as a separate document).
p. Vegetated buffers (where required).
9. Copy of any applicable soils report with the associated SHWT elevations (Please identify /T/,4
elevations in addition to depths) as well as a map of the boring local ons with the existing
elevations and boring logs. Include an 8.5"xll" copy of the NRCS County Soils map with the
project area clearly delineated. For projects with infiltration BMPs, the report should also
include the soil type, expected infiltration rate, and the method of determining the infiltration rate.
(Infiltration Devices submitted to WiRO: Schedule a site visit for DEMLR to verify the SHWT prior
to submittal, [phone]J
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10. A copy of the most current property deed. Deed book: Page No:
11. For corporations and limited liability corporations (LLC): Provide documentation from the NC
Secretary of State or other official documentation, which supports the titles and positions held
by the persons listed in Contact Information, item la, 2a, and/or 3a per 15A NCAC 2H.1003(e).
The corporation or LLC must be listed as an active corporation in good standing with the NC
Secretary of State, otherwise the application will be returned.
http: / /www.secretary.state.nc.us/Corporations/CSearch.aspx
EC (C E dVE f
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OCT 0 7 2014
BY:
Form SWU-101 Version Oct. 31, 2013 Page 5 of 7

VII. DEED RESTRICTIONS AND PROTECTIVE COVENANTS
For all subdivisions, outparcels, and future development, the appropriate property restrictions and protective
covenants are required to be recorded prior to the sale of any lot. If lot sizes vary significantly or the proposed
BUA allocations vary, a table listing each lot number, lot size, and the allowable built -upon area must be provided
as an attachment to the completed and notarized deed restriction form. The appropriate deed restrictions and
protective covenants forms can be downloaded from http://portal.ncdenr.org/web/Ir/state-stormwater-
forms does. Download the latest versions for each submittal.
In the instances where the applicant is different than the property owner, it is the responsibility of the property
owner to sign the deed restrictions and protective covenants form while the applicant is responsible for ensuring
that the deed restrictions are recorded.
By the notarized signatures) below, the permit holder(s) certify that the recorded property restrictions and
protective covenants for this project, if required, shall include all the items required in the permit and listed
on the forms available on the website, that the covenants will be binding on all parties and persons claiming
under them, that they will run with the land, that the required covenants cannot be changed or deleted
without concurrence from the NC DEMLR, and that they will be recorded prior to the sale of any lot.
VIII. CONSULTANT INFORMATION AND AUTHORIZATION
Applicant: Complete this section if you wish to designate authority to another individual and/or firm (such as a
consulting engineer and/or firm) so that they may provide information on your behalf for this project (such as
addressing requests for additional information).
Consulting Engineer:David K. Newsom
Consulting Firm: Crystal Coast Engineering, PA
Mailing Address:205-3 Ward Road
City:Swansboro State:NC Zip:28584
Phone: (910 ) 325-0006
Email:c!:[e-mail]
Fax: (910 ) 326-0060
IX. PROPERTY OWNER AUTHORIZATION (if Contact Information, item 2 has been filled out, complete this
section)
I, (print or type name of person listed in Contact Information, item 2a) . certify that I
own the property identified in this permit application, and thus give permission to (print or type name of person
listed in Contact Information, item la) with (print or type name of organization listed in
Contact Information, item 1a) to develop the project as currently proposed. A copy of
the lease agreement or pending property sales contract has been provided with the submittal, which indicates the
party responsible for the operation and maintenance of the stormwater system.
OCT 072014
BY:
Form SWU-101 Version Oct. 31, 2013 Page 6 of 7

As the legal property owner I acknowledge, understand, and agree by my signature below, that if my designated
agent (entity listed in Contact Information, item 1) dissolves their company and/or cancels or defaults on their
lease agreement, or pending sale, responsibility for compliance with the DEMLR Stormwater permit reverts back
to me, the property owner. As the property owner, it is my responsibility to notify DEMLR immediately and
submit a completed Name/Ownership Change Form within 30 days; otherwise I will be operating a stormwater
treatment facility without a valid permit. I understand that the operation of a stormwater treatment facility
without a valid permit is a violation of NC General Statue 143-215.1 and may result in appropriate enforcement
action including the assessment of civil penalties of up to $25,000 per day, pursuant to NCGS 143-215.6.
Signature:
I,
a Notary Public for the State of
County of
do hereby certify that personally appeared
before me this _ day of . and acknowledge the due execution of the application for
a stormwater permit. Witness my hand and official seal,
SEAL
My commission expires
X. APPLICANTS CERTIFICATION
I, (print or type name of person listed in Contact Information, item la) Keith Walker. Manager
certify that the information included on this permit application form is, to the best of my knowledge, correct and
that the project will be constructed in conformance with the approved plans, that the required deed restrictions
and protective covenants will be recorded, and that the proposed project complies with the requirements of the
applicable ter rules rmd�r 15A NCAC 2H .1000 and any other applicable state stormwater
• requirements.
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Signature. ` I=/�J1 Date: ff t YZB1�'T
I, SJ,-2 A �y WE T u l-L A a Notary Public for the State of N C County of
C A l2TEP-eT do hereby certify that �4E i T" T--). VJA L K &r2 personally appeared
T0G&a 20t4 . before me this �` day of �- and acknowledge the due executionofthe nnapplication for
a stormwater permit. Witness my hand and official seal, ill
SEAL
My commission expires �GTO 6&rz 19 ?.O (S
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Department of Environment and Natural Resources
Wilmington Regional Office
Pot McCrory, Governor
Date: 11/25/2014
To: Dave Newsom
Co: Crystal Coat Engineering
Fax: [phone]
Re: Emmerdale Apartments, SW8 060650
FAX COVER SHEET
Permit modification issued. Hard copy in mail.
John E Skvarla III, Secretary
No. Pages (excl. cover): 9
From: Jo Casmer
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

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JOHN L. PIERCE & ASSOCIATES, P.A.
LAND SURVEYING — LAND PLANNING — MAPPING
P.O. 13OX 1685
JACKSONVILLE, NC 28541
OFFICE: [phone] PAX: [phone]
E-MAIL: bett ba ilpnc.com
Or brianj(aljlpnc.com
TO: Ms. Christine Nelson
N.C. Department of Environment and Natural
Resources —Division of Energy, Mineral & Land
Resources/Land Quality Section
127 Cardinal Drive Extension
Wilmington, NC 28405
Letter of Transmittal
DATE:
November 20, 2014
ATTENTION:
Ms. Christine Nelson
Re:
EmmerdaleA artments—SW8060650
COPIES
DATE
NUMBER
DESCRIPTION
2
Copies of revised "Drainage Area Supplement"
2
Copies of revised Pond 2 calculations per your request
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NOY 2 120%
REMARKS:
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SIGNED:

CRYSTAL COAST ENGINEERING, PA
205-3 WARD ROAD, SWANSBORO, N.C. 28584
PHONE: [phone] - FAX [phone] C>: •\ !�N .?y _
BUSINESS LICENSE #: C-2553 :4r ,' ��'•,
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Design Calculations
Stormwater Treatment Facilities
for
EMMERDALE APARTMENTS POND 2 (2/17/12 Modification/10/28/14 Revision)
located in
Onslow County
1. PROJECT DESCRIPTION
THIS PROJ CONSIST OF A 8.43 AC TRACT FOR LOW OR MODERATE INCOME APARTMENTS
2. COMPUTE POND AREA REQUIRED
a. Compute Percent Impervious:
Impervious Areas
On -Site Buildings
On -Site Streets
On -Site Parking
On -Site Sidewalks
Other on -site
Off -site
Sub -Total
"Additional Sidewalk"'
Total
"Not included in oringal permit
Pre-existing Area Drainage to Pond:
Additional DA (new sidewalk area)
TOTAL DA
Pre -Existing % Impervious =
Additional % Impervious =
TOTAL % Impervious =
b. Compute Pond Surface Area
72,438 860
72,438 1,330
0.716 or 71.6 %
0.196 or 19.6 %
0.704 or 70.4 %
SF
SF
Total SF
27,060 SF
628
37,423
8,187 SF
0
0 SF
73,298 SF
470
73,768 SF
SF
SF
,102 9
104,760 C— I ,q O ac
Using Surface Area to Drainage Area Ratio Chart for 90% TSS Removal (copy attached) and
assuming joZiELIMfoot pond depth:
SA/DA = 1JR11fij .e5e,11 % (interpolated)�E0 VE
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Therefore:
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Surface Area = SA/DA x Drainage Area
= 5,353 SF say s�5;:569 SF
Conclusion: OK - Existing Pond has adequate Surface Area.
c. Compute Minimum Pond Dimensions
Assume rectangular shape with 3:1 Length (L) to Width (W) Ratio:
Length = 129.26 feet
Width = 43.09 feet
Site conditions, however. dictate:
Hydr. Length = feet
so, Hydr. Width, 42.8 feet (avg)
Actual LAN = 3.0 (irregular shape)
3.A DETERMINE VOLUME TO BE CONTROLLED FROM 1" STORM
For that "pre-existing" (as allowed by permit) BUA and Drain Area (DA):
Using Schuler "Simple Method":
Rv = 0.05 + 0.009(I) where I = percent impervious
Rv = 0.694 in/in
Control Volume = Design Rainfall x Rv x Drainage Area
Control Volume = 5,924 CF
3.A DETERMINE VOLUME TO BE CONTROLLED FROM 1.5" STORM
For that "additional" BUA and DA associated with additional sidewalk
Using Schuler "Simple Method":
Rv = 0.05 + 0.009(I) where I = percent impervious
Rv = 0.227 in/in
Control Volume = Design Rainfall x Rv x Drainage Area
Control Volume = 68 CF
TOTAL VOLUME REQ'D = 5,992 CF J�` say ;yam ;16�Q34' CF
Conclusion: OK - Existing Pond has adequate Volume
4. DETERMINE REQUIRED STORAGE DEPTH
Assume: 3:1 side slopes
solving for depth (d) by trial &error:
d = 0.99
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5. DETERMINE ORIFICE SIZE
Control Volume must be drawn down over a 2 day - 5 day period.
Using orifice equation, solve for Diameter (D) that results in 3-1/2 day period:
D = (Q / 0.026 (h) ).5
Where: Q = (Control Volume / 3.5 days x 86,400 sec/day)
= 0.020 cfs
h=d/2
= 0.50
Solving for D:
D = 1.04 Use =^`' 9:00 " pipe
Actual Drawdown with actual drawdown pipe diameter (using orifice equation):
Q= 0.018 cfs
Draw Down Period = 3.82 days OK, < 5.0
6. SELECT OUTLET STRUCTURE DIAMETER
Size outlet structure such that depth of Q10 flow <1.0 feet:
Using Rational Formula (Q=CIA) where:
Cim er = 0.8
Cpery
Ccum = 0.66
A = 2.35 ac
Q10 = 10.09 cfs
Assuming 1/2 circumference is used as weir and using
Francis Formula (Q=3.33LH' 5) to solve for L such that H = 1.0
L=
Min
Use
0
7. DETERMINE Q10 STAGE
Q10=
3.03 Feet
24 inch diameter outlet structure
36 inch diameter outlet structure
10.09 cfs
Using Francis Formula (0=3.33LH''S) solve for H: 7H iV E
1
10
V 2 1 Ili,

H10 = 0.74 feet
8. DETERMINE Q100 STAGE (ELEV. OF EMERGENCY SPILLWAY)
Using Rational Formula (Q=CIA) where:
Ccum = 0.66
1100 = s;:t 8;50 in/hr
A = 2.35 ac
Q100 = 13.19
Using Francis Formula (Q=3.33LH"5) solve for H:
H100 = 0.89 feet
9. DETERMINE Q100 STAGE OVER EMERGENCY SPILLWAY (TOP BERM ELEV.)
Assume primary spillway blocked (i.e., emergency spillway to accommodate Q100)
Emergency spillway shall be a broad crested earthern weir designed to pass 100 year storm.
Using broad crested weir equation H = (Q/Cw x L)113
where: Q = 0100 13.19 cfs
Cw = 3.0
Length = - _' r .20 feet
H = 0.36 feet
10. FOREBAY SIZING
Compute Actual Pond Volumes (using average end method)
Cum.
Vol (CF)
Avg
Incr.
Incr.
5,246
Main Bay Volume:
Elevation Area SF
Area SF
Depth (FT)
Vol CF
10,832
Pond Bottom
",, r39 00) +1 09
Bottom Veg Shelf¢
* ,r42 ^} 33;'' 2 059
f
1,576
3.33
5,246
Normal Pond
a "
3,345
1.67
5,585
�,t,44.00, _4630
Main Bay Volume =
10,832 CF
Vol (CF)
Forebay Volume:
Pond Bottom
Normal Pond
Forebay Volume =
Total Pond Volume =
Elevation Area SF Area SF Depth (FT) Vol (CF)
39.00 P 192
44.00 939? 566 5.00 2,828
2,828 CF
13,659 CF
Forebay Volume equates to 20.7 % of Total Volume
NM
EB@sE
llOV2i2014
--I(CF)

6,034
Temp. Storage Volume :
Elevation Area SF
Area SF
Depth (FT)
Vol (CF)
Normal Pond
44.00 5,569
Temp. Pond Level
'-,' 44 99:i;,' '6,626;
6,095
0.99
6,034
Temp. Pool Volume =
6,034 CF
Vol (CF)
4,824
10 Yr Storage Volume :
Elevation Area SF
Area SF
Depth (FT)
Vol (CF)
Temp Pond Level
44.99 6,620
Temp. Pond Level
a } �45'43=x` 6>33�
6,478
0.74
4,824
Temp. Pool Volume =
4,824 CF
Vol (CF)
5,836
100 Yr Storage Volume :
Elevation Area SF
Area SF
Depth (FT)
Vol (CF)
Temp Pond Level
44.99 6,620
Temp. Pond Level
,r1,45 886 485j
6,553
0.89
5,836
Temp. Pool Volume = 5,836 CF
11. SUMMARY
Pond Elevations:
Relative
Actual
Top Berm (minimum)
7.24
46.24
H= 0.36
100-Yr. Flood
6.88
45.88 (emerg. weir elev)
H100= 0.89
10-Yr. Flood
6.73
45.73
H10 = 0.74
1-inch Storage
5.99
44.99 (primary weir elev)
storage depth = 0.99
Permanent Pool
5.00
44.00 (invert out elev)
pond depth = 5
Pond Bottom
0
12. WET DETENTION BASIN SUPPLEMENT
Basin Bottom Elevation 39.00
Perm. Pool Elevation 44.00
Temp. Pool Elevation 44.99
Perm Pool Surface Area 5,569 SF
VF
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Drainage Area
Impervious Area
Perm. Pool Volume
Temp Pool Volume
Forebay Volume
SA/DA
Diameter of Orifice
Design Rainfall
Design TSS Removal
-2-35, c E-- a, y 0
1.69 AC
13,659 CIF
6,034 CIF
2,828 CIF
5.11
1.00
1"
90%
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Nelson, Christine
From: Nelson, Christine
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:51 PM
To: 'David Newsom'
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
Thank you!
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and may be disclosed to third parties unless the content is exempt by statute or other regulation.
From: David Newsom [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:49 PM
To: Nelson, Christine; 'Betty Bullock'; [e-mail]
Cc: Weaver, Cameron; Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
Excellent timing....
I was just getting ready to email you myself.
I just completed revising the calcs per your recent email.
I also just printed out the Drain Area Supplement you requested.
I was going to drop both those items in the mail to you tomorrow.
From: Nelson, Christine[mailto:christine.nelson(cbncdenr.govl
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:45 PM
To: David Newsom; 'Betty Bullock'; mmccloskey(&eccdi.com
Cc: Weaver, Cameron; Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
David,
Since this project is in the Express program, it is held to tight turnaround times, which have already been exceeded. Can
you provide a response by Friday? If we don't wrap this up soon, I will have to discuss possibility of returning this
project with the bosses. I certainly don't want to go that route if I don't have to.
Thanks!
Christine
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From: Scott, Georgette
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:39 PM
To: David Newsom; Nelson, Christine; 'Betty Bullock'; mmccloskey@)eccdi.com
Cc: Weaver, Cameron
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info

David, The version of calcs that you sent Christine say preliminary and it is hard to tell what you did because you have
writing on the side etc.
If you can send us a clean calculation page showing all of your calculations at the 1.5", With Your Stamp, because that is
what the rules require and is not something we just ask for, than that would be great.
Another reason this needs to be clean and clear is that somewhere down the road we will have to transfer the
permit. The new permittee needs to understand what the engineer did in their calculations.
Thank you. I appreciate your effort.
From: David Newsom (mailto:crystalcoasteng(o)bizec.rr.coml
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:30 PM
To: Nelson, Christine; 'Betty Bullock'; mmccloskev(cbeccdi.com
Cc: Weaver, Cameron; Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
Yes, I can certainly send you the revised Drainage Area plan.
I am suggesting.... since it is readily apparent that the pond is capable of accommodating (per the calculations) the small
(actually miniscule) amount of additional BUA and Drainage Area, that we do NOTHING.
Is there really any need to go through another complicated paper chase exercise here?
All water is being treated.
All treatment BMP are capable of handling the tributary BUA (per the new calcs).
That being the case.... everything we are doing here is beginning to seem like nothing more than an elaborate paper
chase .... worse yet .... a "circular" paper chase (i.e. one project impacts another project which impacts the master
permits..... and so on, so on......)
At some point..... I'd like to finally be done with this thing.
From: Nelson, Christine [mailto:christine.nelsonCotncdenr.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:22 PM
To: David Newsom; 'Betty Bullock'; mmccloskeyColeccdi.com
Cc: Weaver, Cameron; Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
David,
I'm not sure what you are suggesting as a response. Are you proposing to revise the calculations and supplement (if
needed) to consider the new BUA at 1.5"? If so, that'd be great. If not, can you be a little more clear on what you are
proposing?
Can you also send a second copy of the revised drainage area supplement plan?
Christine
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From: David Newsom [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:01 PM
To: Nelson, Christine; 'Betty Bullock'; mmccloskevCabeccdi.com

Cc: Weaver, Cameron; Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
Christine
Sorry for the delay ..... I have been out of the office .... for perhaps much too long.
Regarding your below comment.... "Can you please explain why you think this modification and the 1" design storm is
applicable under this section of the rules?"
I would argue that design storm (1" or 1.5") which is to be applied is largely a mute point, as the pond is of adequate
capacity to accommodate the larger design storm (1.5") for that small portion of additional BUA and Drainage Area.
Please see that attached PRELIMINARY talcs (these are UNSEALED talcs for your consideration ONLY .... and are NOT
intended, at least at this point, as FINAL calculations).
Those talcs I think clearly demonstrate that the pond as previously designed includes more than adequate capacity
(both surface area and control volume) to accommodate the small amount of additional BUA and Drain Area (DA)
associated with the additional sidewalk you previously noted.
We wish to also make you aware that it was the CITY who asked the Developer for this additional section of
sidewalk..... There was certainly no intent of circumventing any stormwater rule .... the Developer was simply attempting
to appease a request (after SW permit issued) by the City of Jacksonville to provide sidewalk connectivity.
Please let me know if the above response adequately addresses your concern. If so, I can finalize and seal/sign these
revised talcs if you need them for your files.
Thanks
From: Nelson, Christine[mailto:christine.nelson@ncdenr.00vl
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 9:42 AM
To: David Newsom; 'Betty Bullock'; mmccloskey(d)eccdi.com
Cc: Weaver, Cameron; Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
David,
Have you had a chance to take a look at this? I haven't seen a response yet and just want to make sure I didn't miss it.
Thanks!
Christine
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From: Nelson, Christine
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 3:08 PM
To: 'David Newsom'; 'Betty Bullock'; mmccloskey(&eccdi.com
Cc: Weaver, Cameron; Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
David,
In the response to item 3 of the request for additional information dated October 20, 2104, you reference paragraph
143-750 of Session Law 2014-120, which states:

(a) If a permit applicant submits a permit for any type of development and a rule or ordinance changes between the time
the permit application was submitted and a permit decision is made, the permit applicant may choose which version of
the rule or ordinance will apply to the permit.
(b) This section applies to all development permits issued by the State and by local governments.
(c) This section shall not apply to any zoning permit."
Our interpretation of this section of the session law is that this rule is intended to apply to those projects whose
application was submitted prior to the rules changing but where the project has not yet been permitted. If the
application is still in house, the applicant can then select which rule they wish to apply to their project.
It's not clear how this rule applies to the Emmerdale Apt modification as the application to modify the permit was not in
place during a rule change. As you know, this modification was requested in 2012 because the adjoining property
proposed to construct an access road within the Emmerdale Apartments property area that would ultimately drain to
one of the ponds permitted under the Emmerdale Apartments stormwater permit. The application to modify the permit
was submitted on October 9, 2014. Can you please explain why you think this modification and the 1" design storm is
applicable under this section of the rules?
Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you.
Christine
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From: David Newsom fmailto:crystalcoastengtabizec.rr.coml
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 10:41 AM
To: Nelson, Christine; 'Betty Bullock'; mmccloskey(&eccdi.com
Cc: Weaver, Cameron
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
You should have it by Monday.
From: Nelson, Christine fmailto:christine.nelsonCa)ncdenr.00vl
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 2:29 PM
To: Betty Bullock; Newsom, David; mmccloskev(a)eccdi.com
Cc: Weaver, Cameron
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
Betty,
Thanks - I received the originally signed application in the mail today. I haven't seen anything else to address the rest of
the items in the request for additional information. Do you know if the other items are expected to arrive next week?
Christine
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From: Betty Bullock [mailto:BettyBullock(aljlpnc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:03 AM
To: Nelson, Christine; Newsom, David; mmccloskeyCaleccdi.com
Cc: Weaver, Cameron
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
Thank you, in the nleantinle, here is the scan copy for your tiles

From: Nelson, Christine (mailto:christine.nelsonCc?ncdenr.Rovj
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:31 AM
To: Betty Bullock; Newsom, David; [e-mail]
Cc: Weaver, Cameron
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
Betty,
Thanks for the replay. In the Express program, extensions of one week beyond the original due date may be
granted. For this project that, would be Monday November 3rd (or Tuesday at the latest), which I am ok with granting.
Thanks again, and please let me know if anything changes.
Christine
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From: Betty Bullock [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:24 AM
To: Nelson, Christine; Newsom, David; [e-mail]
Cc: Weaver, Cameron
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
Christine, could we possibly have a few more days. Mr. Walker is out of town until Friday and
since you will not accept a scan copy I will have to FedEx it on Friday for Monday delivery. I
can forward you a scan copy today and get you the original via. FedEx. Any consideration
would be most appreciated.
Betty
From: Nelson, Christine [mailto:christine.nelsonPncdenr.aovl
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:02 AM
To: Newsom, David; [e-mail]; Betty Bullock
Cc: Weaver, Cameron
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
David;
The additional information was required prior to October 28". At this time, I have only received an e-mail from Betty
with a question regarding the signature page. Can you please update me on the status? If you need more time, an
extension should have been requested prior to the due date.
Thanks,
Christine
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From: Nelson, Christine
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:35 PM
To: Newsom, David; '[e-mail]'
Cc: Weaver, Cameron
Subject: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
David,

The request for additional information regarding the recent application to modify the stormwater permit for Emmerdale
Apartments (SW8 060650) is attached. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Christine
Christine Nelson
Environmental Engineer
State Stormwater Program
NC Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
127 Cardinal Drive Ext., Wilmington, NC 28405
Direct: 910-796-7345 / Main: 910-796-7215 / fax: [phone]
htto://portal.ncdenr.org/web/Ir/stormwater
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JOHN L. PIERCE & ASSOCIATES, P.A.
LAND SURVEYING — LAND PLANNING — MAPPING
P.O. BOX 1685
JACKSONV ILLE, NC 28541
OFFICE: [phone] FAX: [phone]
E-MAIL: bettvbnilonc.com
Or [e-mail]
TO: Mr. Christine Nelson
N.C. Department of Environment and Natural
Resources —Division of Energy, Mineral & Land
Resources/Land Quality Section
127 Cardinal Drive Extension
Wilmington, NC 28405
Letter of Transmittal
DATE:
November 3, 2014
ATTENTION:
Ms. Christine Nelson
Re:
Emmerdale A artment—Stormwater Project No. SW8 060650
COPIES
DATE
NUMBER
DESCRIPTION
1
Letter from Engineer (Dave Newsom)
1
Revised sheets 4 of 7
1
Set of revised calculations
1
Revised 'Drainage Area Supplement"
g r y
SIGNED: ajjE "A

A
Crystal Coast Engineering, PA
205-3 Ward Road
Swansboro, N.C. 28584
Tel: [phone] Fax: [phone]
Email: crystalcoasteng@b¢ec.rr.com
November-28, 2014
GG}r) r
Ms. Christine Nelson
N.C. Division of Water Quality [ECEEUV E .
127 Cardinal Drive Extension
Wilmington, N.C. 28405 NOV Q 3 2014
Re: Stormwater Project No. SW8 060650 BY:�—
Emmerdale Apartments
Onslow County
Dear Ms. Nelson,
We are in receipt of your Request for Additional Information dated October 20, 2014 for the
referenced project. We provide the following information to allow you to continue the
stormwater review (item numbers correspond to your original letter): Ag_, i �. \o h
1. Just curious as to the source of these "up to date" on-line photos. All of my sources of 9 IV
aerial photography are dated (old) and show no such connection to Building 11.
Regardless, I did visit the site yesterday to see firsthand the configuration of the
sidewalks, and as you indicated, a portion of the sidewalk was indeed connected to
existing sidewalk at Building 11. We have revised the Drainage Area Supplement
accordingly (attached). Furthermore, we have added this slight amount of additional
BUA to Pond 2 Calculations (attached) as well as Application sheet Page 4 of 7. The
other noted differences in sidewalk configuration (i.e. clubhouse and apartment
entrance walks) appear very minor, and I suspect "cancel out" each other (i.e. result in
negligible or no additional BUA).
2. Please see attached REVISED calculations for Pond 2 which clearly demonstrate that
the existing pond design can indeed accommodate the additional BUA as well as an
additional 2,394 sf of drainage area associated with said BUA. Please also see
attached revised Page 4 of 7 of the Application on which we have increased the
drainage area as requested. Also attached is a revised Wet Pond Supplement which
also reflects that slight increase in drainage area.
3. More recent Session Law 2014-120 (Paragraph 143-750 Permit Choice) states, "If a
permit applicant submits a permit for any type of development and a rule or ordinance changes
between the time the permit application was submitted and a permit decision is made, the permit
applicant may choose which version of the rule or ordinance will apply to the permit." In other
words, "the permit applicant has the choice as to which rule%rdinance/policy shall apply'
according to the drafters (J. Warren et al) of these new rules. For the sake of simplicity and
consistency, we prefer to apply the pre-existing 1" standard.
4. Signature sheet attached.

• Page 2
5. Thank you.
6. Understood
October 29, 2014
We are hopeful that these responses address all concerns and that the permit modification can
be issued in the near future. Should you have questions or additional concerns, please feel free
to contact us. /l
David K. Newsom, PS-
CRYSTAL COAST ENGINEERING, PA
Cc: John L. Pierce & Associates, PA
F-CF-uvE
NOV 0 3 2014

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NCDENR
North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources
Pat McCrory
Governor
October 20, 2014
Mr. Keith Walker, Manager
Emmerdale, LLC
PO Box 2400
Beaufort, NC 28516
Subject: Request for Additional Information
Stormwater Project No. SW8 060650
Emmerdale Apartments
Onslow County
Dear Mr. Walker:
John E. Skvarla, III
Secretary
The Wilmington Regional Office received a modified Express Stormwater Management Permit
Application for Emmerdale Apartments on October 7, 2014. A preliminary review of that information
has determined that the application is not complete. The following information is needed to continue
the stormwater review:
r\_J 1. The revised drainage area map indicates that the additional sidewalk does not connect to the
gnl- existing sidewalk. According to aerial photos available online, it appears that the additional
sidewalk extends to Building 11. Additionally, these aerial photographs appear to show other
CA1�� small changes have been made to the approved built -upon area including the clubhouse area
and nearby sidewalks as well as with several entrance walks associated with the apartment
buildings. Please confirm the extent of the additional impervious area and whether or not other
changes have been made to the approved impervious area.
/2. The drainage area for pond 2 is listed in the revised application as being the same area as
originally permitted. However, the highlighted drainage area map originally approved does not
extend beyond the traffic circle to the vicinity of the additional impervious area proposed with
this modification. Please confirm that the drainage area is remaining the same with the
additional improvements. If the drainage area is changing or is being re -delineated, please
identify the new drainage area on the plans and update the supplemental documents
accordingly.
3. Per 15A NCAC 02H. 1 005(h)(J), any increase in the net impervious area of a project is
considered a major modification to the permit and thus requires the additional impervious area
to be considered under the current rules. Please consider any increase to the drainage area or
impervious area at the 1.5" design storm required by the current rules instead of at the 1" design
storm.
✓4. The original signature provided in the application is under Section IX instead of in Section X of
the application. Section I X is intended for projects where the permit is to be issued to an entity
other than the property owner, such as a leased property or one that is under a sales contract.
Please provide an originally signed Section X of the application.
5. Due to the relatively minor nature of these comments, the express additional information review
fee has been waived.
6. Please keep in mind that changing one number may change other numbers and require the
calculations, supplements, and other supporting documentation to be updated. Verify all
numbers are correct to ensure consistency in the application documents.
Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
Land Quality Section — Wilmington Regional Office
127 Cardinal Drive Extension, Wilmington, North Carolina 28405 • [phone] / Fax: [phone]

October 20, 2014
Stormwater Application No. SW8 060650
Please note that this request for additional information is in response to a preliminary review.
The requested information should be received in this Office prior to October 28, 2014, or the
application will be returned as incomplete. The return of a project will necessitate resubmittal of
all required items, including the application fee.
If you need additional time to submit the information, please email or fax your request for a time
extension to the Division at the address and fax number at the bottom of this letter. Please note
that a second significant request for additional information may result in the return of the project.
If the project is returned, you will need to reschedule the project through the Express
coordinator for the next available review date, and resubmit all of the required items, including
the application fee.
The construction of any impervious surfaces, other than a construction entrance under an
approved Sedimentation Erosion Control Plan, is a violation of NCGS 143-215.1 and is subject
to enforcement action pursuant to NCGS 143-215.6A.
Please label all packages and cover letters as "Express" and reference the project name and
State assigned project number on all correspondence. If you have any questions concerning
this matter please feel free to call me at [phone] or email me at
[e-mail].
Sincerely,
CAU- �
Christine Nelson
Environmental Engineer
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cc: David Newsom, Crystal Coast Engineering
Wilmington Regional Office
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Nelson, Christine
From: Nelson, Christine
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:35 PM
To: Newsom, David;'[e-mail]'
Cc: Weaver, Cameron
Subject: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
Attachments: 2014 10 addinfo 060650.pdf
David,
The request for additional information regarding the recent application to modify the stormwater permit for Emmerdale
Apartments (SW8 060650) is attached. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Christine
Christine Nelson
Environmental Engineer
State Stormwater Program
NC Division of Energy, Mineral and land Resources
127 Cardinal Drive Ext., Wilmington, NC 28405
Direct: 910-796-7345 / Main: 910-796-7215 / Fax: [phone]
http://porta I. ncdenr.o r�/web/I r/stormwater
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JOHN L. PIERCE & ASSOCIATES, P.A.
LAND SURVEYING — LAND PLANNING — MAPPING
P.O. BOX 1685
JACKSONVILLE, NC 28541
OFFICE: [phone] FAX: [phone]
E-MAIL: bettyb(a)jlnnc.com
Or brianj uia'lonc.com
TO: Ms. Christine Nelson
N.C. Department of Environment and Natural
Resources —Division of Energy, Mineral & Land
Resources/Land Quality Section
127 Cardinal Drive Extension
Wilmington, NC 28405
Letter of Transmittal
DATE:
October 30, 2014
ATTENTION:
Ms. Christine Nelson
Re:
EnnnerdaleApartments —SW8060650
COPIES
DATE
NUMBER
DESCRIPTION
2
Revised stormwater applications with corrected signature lines
UU312014 Fa
SIGNED:

Nelson, Christine
From: Nelson, Christine
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:31 AM
To: 'Betty Bullock'; Newsom, David; [e-mail]
Cc: Weaver, Cameron
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
Betty,
Thanks for the replay. In the Express program, extensions of one week beyond the original due date may be
granted. For this project that, would be Monday November 3r" (or Tuesday at the latest), which I am ok with granting.
Thanks again, and please let me know if anything changes.
Christine
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From: Betty Bullock jmailto:BettyBullock(aljlpnc.com1
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:24 AM
To: Nelson, Christine; Newsom, David; mmccloskey(aleccdi.com
Cc: Weaver, Cameron
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
Christine, could we possibly have a few more days. Mr. Walker is out of town until Friday and
since you will not accept a scan copy I will have to FedEx it on Friday for Monday delivery. I
can lorward you a scan copy today and get you the original via FedEx. Any consideration
would be most appreciated.
Betty
From: Nelson, Christine Imailto:christine.nelson(alncdenr.Rovl
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:02 AM
To: Newsom, David; [e-mail]; Betty Bullock
Cc: Weaver, Cameron
Subject: RE: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
David,
The additional information was required prior to October 28"'. At this time, I have only received an e-mail from Betty
with a question regarding the signature page. Can you please update me on the status? If you need more time, an
extension should have been requested prior to the due date.
Thanks,
Christine
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From: Nelson, Christine
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:35 PM
To: Newsom, David; '[e-mail]'
1

,Cc: Weaver, Cameron
Subject: Emmerdale Apt. - request for additional info
David,
The request for additional information regarding the recent application to modify the stormwater permit for Emmerdale
Apartments (SW8 060650) is attached. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Christine
Christine Nelson
Environmental Engineer
State Stormwater Program
NC Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
127 Cardinal Drive Ext., Wilmington, NC 28405
Direct: 910-796-7345 / Main: 910-796-7215 / fax: [phone]
http://portal.ncdenr.org/web/Ir/stormwater
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Stormwater Treatment Narrative
(Revised 2/27112)
Emmerdale Apartments
On July 17, 2006, Emmerdale, LLC received Stormwater Management Permit SW8 060650 for development of a forty-six (46)
unit apartment complex on a 8.43 acre tract located on Carolina Forest Blvd. (off Western Blvd—NCSR 1470 - now NC 53)
within the city limits of Jacksonville, N.C. The permitted Stormwater Plan includes two (2) wet detention basins designed to
(real runoff from each of two drainage areas. The project has since been constructed and the Designers Certification was
issued on 6/1/10.
Wellington Grove Apartments, an adjacent project recently permitted with SW8 120110 n NIP
ef-khel-pemr* now wishes to extend a small section (860 so of proposed street R sidewalk onto the Emmerdale property. As
this small section of street / sidewalk will be graded so as to drain runoff into the Emmerdale Pond #2, DWQ requested a
modification of the Emmerdale Apartments permit to reflect the increase in BUA for Pond #2.
Although no "future" BUA was included in the original Emmerdale Apartments Stormwater Permit, the revised Design
Calculations for Pond #2 (attached) demonstrate that Pond #2, as currently constructed, can adequately treat the additional 860
sf of BUA.
The project site is located approximately 0.4 miles from an UT of Half Moon Creek (C;NSW) in the White Oak Basin. The
proposed (now existing) development activities are high density (percent impervious > 25 %). The attached Stormwater Plan
includes two wet detention basins. No changes are proposed for Pond 1 (4,508 so, which is situated on the northeast side of the
tract. Pond 2 (5,569 so is located at the southwest corner of the tract.
Pond 1 is sized to accommodate 59,141 square feet of impervious area, allocated as follows:
Buildings
Streets
Parking
Sidewalks
Other
Reserve for Future
Total
Site
Offsite
Total
14,603 sf
-0-
14,603 sf
-0-
-0-
-0-
34,978 sf
-0-
34,978 sf
6,560 sf
-0-
6,560 sf
3,000 sf
-0-
3,000 sf
-0-
-0-
-0-
59,141 sf -0-
59,141 sf
Pond 2 (5,569 so is located at the southwest corner of the tract, and was originally sized to accommodate 72,438 square feet of
impervious area. No changes are proposed to the actual pond (which has been completed, certified and is currently in service);
however, the impervious area draining to the pond will be increased by 860 square feet. This proposed increase in impervious
area can be easily accommodated by the current configuration of Pond 2 (see the attached, revised Design Calculations for
Pond 2). With the additional BUA, the total impervious area for Pond 2 is allocated as follows:
(Permitted/Existing) Proposed Total
Buildings 27,060 sf -0- 27,060 sf
Streets -0- 628 sf 628 sf �/p�-a�
Parking 37,423 sf -0- 37,423 sf E (C E 0 p By _
Sidewalks 7,955 sf 232 sf 8,187 sf
Other -0- -0- -0- OCT 0 7 2014
Reserve for Future -0- -0- -0-
Total 72,438 sf 860 sf 73,298 sf
Both stormwater ponds are sized for 90% TSS removal. The ponds do not incorporate pretreatment, other than the forebays.
Neither pond includes a vegetated filter at the outlet.
All stormwater emanating from impervious surfaces that is generated on -site shall be collected and directed to Pond 1 or Pond 2
by a system of sheet drainage, grassed swales and storm drainage pipes.

The treatment system will require periodic maintenance. Maintenance frequency shall be dictated by pond depths. Pond
depths shall be checked by the owner on a quarterly basis. When measured depths are less than 3.75' (in both the main ponds
and the forebays), the pond shall be manually dewatered (pump) and accumulated sediment removed and properly disposed of.
Site topography is gently sloping (0 — 5%) generally toward the northeastern boundary of the tract. Soils are loamy sand/sandy
loam.
E-0E- VE
OCT 0 7 20%

205-3 Ward Road
Swansboro, NC 28584
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
I I
To: John L. Pierce & Associates
Permit Modification Application
Rt Emmerdale Apartments
From: David K. Newsom
Date: 9/18/14
P M,our
0 (t55
❑ Urgent ❑ For Review ❑ Please Comment ❑ Please Reply ❑ Please Recycle
Attached:
• Narrative
• Permit Modification Application (1 copy for signature)
• REVISED Wet Detention Basin Supplement
• REVISED Pond Calculations
• Drainage Area Supplement
Obtain necessary signatures, attach permit fee and submit to WRO.
ECEIV
OCT 0 7 1014
By: "

Nelson, Christine
From: Scott, Georgette
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:50 PM
To: Nelson, Christine
Cc: Lewis,Linda; David Newsom
Subject: FW: Carolina Forest Boulvard / Wellington Grove / Emmerdale Apartments
Christine,
David would like to pursue the plan rev/modification approach. And I believe he would like to go regular program.
Please let him know what you need for the plan revision, mod and cost for the modification under the regular program.
Geoti"le Solt
Stolil Ua I'tcr Prolmml Supelcisor
State Sloan -atin Pmymun
NC Division of Water Quality
127 Caolinal Dtivc Ext.
Wilmiutivon, NC 28405
Phone [phone]
Fix [phone]
1'�mall oorespondcnre to ould Gem this address may Ix subject to the Nonh Uirolitei Public Records I:m will ncrc be disclosed to durd p:ulics.
From: Scott, Georgette
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:38 PM
To: 'David Newsom'; Nelson, Christine; Lewis,Linda
Cc: 'Dewey Edwards'; 'Betty Bullock'
Subject: RE: Carolina Forest Boulvard / Wellington Grove / Emmerdale Apartments
David,
In an email that Christine sent to you yesterday (below) it appeared that there might be the opportunity to handle the
Wellington Grove as a Plan Revision and handle all the other as 1 modification. Please look at her email below and see if
this approach can be taken. If so the plan revision in the regular program is free and the mod is 505.00 in the regular
program. Please let me know if that will meet your needs.
Geolgette Stull
Slorrlraa lclI'rO4T.ull Supenisor
Stale Slornnnmr Pragrun
INC Division of Water Quality
127 Cmdimd Dore Ext.
Wilnimp n, NC 2840,5
Phone (910) 79(i-7335
Fix [phone].
4-nmil oonespondencc lo:md h'ont this address may IV subject to the \onh Carolina litblic Rwnrde Lnv Auld mat' be disclosed to third p:uties.
From: Nelson, Christine[mailto:christine.nelson(cbncdenr.gov]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:29 AM
To: David Newsom; Lewis,Linda
Cc: 'Dewey Edwards'; 'Betty Bullock'
Subject: RE: Carolina Forest Boulvard / Wellington Grove / Emmerdale Apartments

Nelson, Christine
From: Lewis,Linda
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:15 PM
To: David Newsom; Nelson, Christine
Cc: 'Dewey Edwards'; 'Betty Bullock'; Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Carolina Forest Boulvard / Wellington Grove / Emmerdale Apartments
Dave:
I don't think anyone here meant to imply that you submitted something "inferior". We know that it was a lot of
work to figure out. You submitted your work in good faith and we permitted it in good faith, end of story.
Linda Lewis
NC Division of Water Quality
127 Cardinal Drive Ext.
Wilmington, NC 28405
910-796-7215
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From: David Newsom [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:12 PM
To: 'David Newsom'; Nelson, Christine; Lewis,Linda
Cc: 'Dewey Edwards'; 'Betty Bullock'; Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Carolina Forest Boulvard / Wellington Grove / Emmerdale Apartments
Did I say "pissed off'...
Sorry, that was a typo...
What I meant to say was EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED.
From: David Newsom [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:12 PM
To: 'Nelson, Christine'; 'Lewis,Linda'
Cc: 'Dewey Edwards'; 'Betty Bullock'; 'Scott, Georgette'
Subject: RE: Carolina Forest Boulvard / Wellington Grove / Emmerdale Apartments
DWQ
Considering the conflicting requests from DWQ staff...... I don't think it fair or proper to imply "information
provided... were inaccurate". It is/was a VERY COMPLEX set of applications ... requiring MULTIPLE persons to compile the
data..... We did the BEST we could with the directions/request imposed upon us.
Please give to JLP and let me know how he wants to handle this.... Frankly, I am a little pissed off at this point with the
whole mess. As per usual, I think I know who gets stuck with this additional expense.

From: Nelson, Christine [mailto:christine.nelson(a)ncdenr.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:53 PM
To: David Newsom; Lewis,Linda
Cc: 'Dewey Edwards'; 'Betty Bullock'; Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Carolina Forest Boulvard / Wellington Grove / Emmerdale Apartments
David,
It is unfortunate that the information provided to the Division in the Wellington Grove application documents were
inaccurate. However, the procedures are that anytime the drainage area changes or the BUA increases from the
permitted conditions, it is considered a modification to the permit, not a plan revision. I understand this may seem
minor, but changes to the permitted drainage area and an increase in the BUA require the permit to be rewritten and a
quick check of the calculations.
As for fees: modifications through the Regular program are $505. If you wish to submit these through the Express
program, I am fairly certain they would be considered minor modifications with a fee of $2,000.
Christine
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From: David Newsom [mailto:crystalcoastengColbizec.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:32 AM
To: Nelson, Christine; Lewis,Linda
Cc: 'Dewey Edwards'; 'Betty Bullock'
Subject: RE: Carolina Forest Boulvard / Wellington Grove / Emmerdale Apartments
We are going to do WHATEVER we need to do to get this thing FINALLY FINISHED....
But, in my view, formal MODIFICATIONS seems a little un-necessary..... I fail to understand why we just cannot correct
the BUA in both permits under a simple Plan Revision.... and not subject the owners to additional Permit Expense....
They (the Permittees) still contend that they were initally told "not to worry about the little bit of BUA on
Emmerdale ...... as EVERYTHING was going to pond(s) (I was not there ... so I don'tknow).
Regardless, that have done what you asked (Emmerdale Plan Revision) ...... which necessitates the Wellington
Revision ...... I have all that info ready to submit .... I just need to know if additional permit fees are required.
From: Nelson, Christine [mailto:christine.nelsonCalncdenr.aov]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:29 AM
To: David Newsom; Lewis,Linda
Cc: 'Dewey Edwards'; 'Betty Bullock'
Subject: RE: Carolina Forest Boulvard / Wellington Grove / Emmerdale Apartments
If this 860 sf was included, that is truly unfortunate. The drainage area plan for Wellington Grove indicates that 15,241
sf of offsite entrance road area is contributing to the Wellington Grove Pond while the 860 sf is contributing to the
Emmerdale Pond. So are you saying the offsite numbers to Wellington Grove should have been 15,241— 860 = 14,381
sf?
If so, it does sound like modifications to both permits are in order. For both modifications, you will need to submit the
full, signed application, calculations, and supplements. (In your original e-mail you indicated you would only provide
page 3 of the Wellington Grove app). However, within Wellington Grove, if you can maintain the same drainage area

and are just reallocating the BUA from offsite to future, this can be done as a plan revision and you would need to
provide the plan revision form instead of the full application.
Christine
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From: David Newsom [mailto:crystalcoasteng(abbizec.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:52 AM
To: Nelson, Christine; Lewis,Linda
Cc: 'Dewey Edwards'; 'Betty Bullock'
Subject: RE: Carolina Forest Boulvard / Wellington Grove / Emmerdale Apartments
Regarding the 860 sf... I thought so too, but my work over the weekend showed that NOT to be the case .... (the 860 WAS
included in the OFFSITE figure permitted for Wellington).
Regarding an updated Wet Detention Pond Supplement (and possibly a new 0&M agreement).... we can certainly
provide.... but please note that REALLOCATING this 860 sf of BUA has turned into an INCREDIBLE amount of effort, as one
change to one permit package changes EVERYTHING ..... There is NO WAY WE CAN BILL for all the time we have invested
in this.
That said, just tell us exactly what you need to complete this modification/plan revision, and we will furnish.... At this
point .... I just want to get done with it.
From:.Nelson, Christine [mailto:christine.nelson(i ncdenr.gov]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:44 AM
To: David Newsom; Lewis,Linda
Cc: Dewey Edwards; Betty Bullock
Subject; RE: Carolina Forest Boulvard / Wellington Grove / Emmerdale Apartments
David,
I was under the impression that the 860 sf draining to Emmerdale was already removed from the Wellington Grove
permit when I issued it. That was the approx change in numbers between the documents you provided during the
submittal meeting and the information dropped off by Pascal. I will have to do some more digging to confirm this.
As for the modification to Emmerdale, you will also need to provide an updated wet detention pond supplement (and
possibly a new 0&M agreement depending on how old that last supplement is) and plans for the proposed
improvements.
Christine
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From: David Newsom [mailto:crystalcoasteng(cbbizec.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 1:23 PM
To: Lewis,Linda; Nelson, Christine
Cc: Dewey Edwards; Betty Bullock
Subject: Carolina Forest Boulvard / Wellington Grove / Emmerdale Apartments
As requested, I have prepared a Plan Modification request for Emmerdale Apartments to account for that 860 sf of BUA
(street and sidewalk) that is to be constructed in conjunction with Wellington, but is actually ON the Emmerdale tract
and draining to the existing Emmerdale Pond. That Plan Revision package includes 1) a complete Application Form (6

sheets) AND 2) revised Pond Calculations demonstrating that the existing Emmerdale Pond can accommodate the
additional BUA.
When preparing that application, we realized that it will be necessary to deduct that same 860 sf from the "offsite"
category in the recently issued Wellington Permit.... in order to avoid "Double Counting". Therefore, I have also
prepared a Plan Modification package for Wellington Grove, deducting that 860 sf that is now accounted for in the
Emmerdale Permit. That Plan Revision package includes 1) a new Page 3 of 6 which shows the corrected BUA
breakdown and 2) a revised Pond Calculations for the Wellington Pond (i.e., less BUA going to that pond).
In your opinion(s), is that the correct way to take care of this?
I hope so...because it was a LOT of work to reconcile all these numbers.....
If we are in agreement, Dewey Edwards (attorney) will incorporate these numbers into the requested Deed Restrictions
for ALL the various tracts covered by the original Low Density permit.
Thanks