20051690 Ver 1_Other Agency Comments_20131210

Strickland, Bev
From: Kulz, Eric
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:30 AM
To: Strickland, Bev
Subject: FW: [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Carbonton Dam Landowner Authorization Figure 12 -09 -2013 (UNCLASSIFIED)
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Eric W. Kulz
Environmental Senior Specialist
401 and Buffer Permitting Unit
NCDENR - Division of Water Resources
1650 MSC
Raleigh, NC 27699 -1650
Phone: [phone]
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From: Tugwell, Todd SAW [ mailto :Todd.Tugwell(@usace.army.mil]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:34 AM
To: Adam Riggsbee
Cc: Wicker, Henry M 7R SAW; Kulz, Eric; Baumgartner, Tim
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Carbonton Dam Landowner Authorization Figure 12 -09 -2013
(UNCLASSIFIED)
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Adam,
I spoke with some of the IRT yesterday and we had discussions internally about the access
issue. Due to safety concerns, especially this time of year, we are not willing to review
tribs from the river. Due to the dangers associated with climbing up and down the banks,
potential for hypothermia if someone gets wet, etc., the potential risks are too great to
comply with our safety protocols. Given how long it takes to float the river and the
prospect of walking up each of the tribs, this approach would also take much longer that
gaining access from the road. If this is the only way that property owners will agree to
allow these tribs to be accessed, we may reconsider this method of review during warmer times
of the year.
I know that you and Restoration Systems have been working diligently to secure access rights
and I appreciate the effort. This is really a critical step for us - if there are properties
where the landowners refuse the right to access these tributaries, I don't believe it is
appropriate for any credit to be generated by these tributaries (this applies to those
tributaries that are entirely located on private property).
For the meeting next week, I suggest that we focus on those properties where we have
permission to gain access from the roads. Please let me know how this changes things for
next week so I can inform the IRT.
Todd Tugwell
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Special Projects Manager
Wilmington District, US Army Corps of Engineers
11405 Falls of the Neuse Road
Wake Forest, NC 27587
Office: 919 - 846 -2564
Mobile: 919 - 710 -0240
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From: Adam Riggsbee [ mailto :adam(@riverbankecosystems.com]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:18 PM
To: Tugwell, Todd SAW
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Carbonton Dam Landowner Authorization Figure 12 -09 -2013
(UNCLASSIFIED)
Yeah, we can arrange that.
I_1V
On Dec 9, 2013, at 11:00 AM, "Tugwell, Todd SAW" <Todd.Tugwell(@usace.army.mil> wrote:
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> Adam,
> Will you (or Sandy) be able to bring a GPS to capture the coordinates for any points that
we determine?
> Todd
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> From: Adam Riggsbee [ mailto :adam(@riverbankecosystems.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:21 AM
> To: Tugwell, Todd SAW; Eric Kulz; Tim Baumgartner
> Cc: George Howard; Tiffani Bylow
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Carbonton Dam Landowner Authorization Figure 12 -09 -2013
> All -
> Please find attached the latest map displaying property access for the Carbonton
tributaries. The remaining landowners are proving rather recalcitrant according to the RS
staff. So I'm not real optimistic there will be much change between now and next week.
> Best,
> Adam
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