20210209 Ver 2_Corrections to submittals_20211104

Carpenter,Kristi
From: McHenry, David G
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2021 8:22 AM
To: Amschler, Crystal C CIV USARMY CESAW (USA); Mitchell, Robert K
Subject: BR 237 Haywood county Corrections to submittals
Attachments: Haywood 237 GP Application Narrative and NRTR_Revised Nov 4 2021.pdf
I just noticed an error in the second ePCN I submitted Tuesday for this project. The pond impact is 0.15 acre and not
0.04 acre as shown in latest ePCN submittal below. I had it right the first time though. Please advise if I need to
resubmit the ePCN or if you can just note the change.
Also, thanks Crystal for pointing out that I did not update the cover letter/impact table and that the site numbers don't
agree from what was first applied for, and that are in the written WQC that we request modification of. Aside from this
cover letter and the 0.04 acre mistake noted above, the ePCN and permit drawings do match. I checked and I believe
the cover letter matches those also now, I hope.
Please advise if you need anything else. I apologize for the snafus. Trying to pick um my pace lately and it is causing
this.
Dave
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From: McHenry, David G
Sent:Tuesday, November 2, 20214:55 PM
To:Amschler, Crystal C CIV USARMY CESAW(USA) <[e-mail]>; Mitchell, Robert K
<[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] BR 237 Haywood county
Hey Kevin,
I just resubmitted as requested for a WQC approval modification. Sorry for the extra work. Please advise if you need
anything else.
Crystal,
Please note your administration (forget her name off-hand) may get confused by another submittal, so I wanted you to
be sure you knew we had to resubmit for DEQ to consider a modification. You can void it I guess if needed as you should
have all updated information already.
Thank all
Dave
From: McHenry, David G
Sent:Thursday, October 28, 20214:44 PM
To:Amschler, Crystal C CIV USARMY CESAW(USA) <C_r [e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] BR 237 Haywood county
Hey Crystal,
I got the designer to make some of the changes, but still had to go back and do the labeling and corrections myself as
you will see. Note that some of the rip rap impacts on upstream end don't show rock abutting the JS directly, but I
asked that they extend the permanent impact calculation upstream because I am pretty sure based on the channel bend
we'll want to put some rip rap a little further upstream. Attached is a picture looking upstream under the bridge taken
the day before the tropical storm hit where you can see that channel wants to hug the right side (left in photo). I
suspect it looks similar now and possibly much more scoured on that side.
Some designers, including this one, have been telling me that rip rap is being called temporary impact in other divisions,
I presume due to feedback from their Corps rep. I still need to show rip rap as permanent impact correct?
Anyway, yes please coordinate with USFWS as needed.
Thanks
Dave
From:Amschler, Crystal C CIV USARMY CESAW(USA) <C_ryst ll.C.A_mschler(_L.asacee_arrny.mil>
Sent:Wednesday, October 27, 20214:49 PM
To: McHenry, David G <do enry@ncdot. ov>
Subject: RE: [External] BR 237 Haywood county
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Hey Dave, thanks for letting me know about the forthcoming change. do you expect that quickly and that it will be a big
change? just wondering if I should go ahead and submit what I have to FWS for review for bats or wait for the new info.
Crystal C.Amschler
Project Manager
Asheville Regulatory Field Office
151 Patton Avenue, Room 208
Asheville, NC 28801
(828)-271-7980 Ext 4231
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continue to do so, please complete the Customer Satisfaction Survey located at:
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From: McHenry, David G <d,-, enry@ncdot. ov>
Sent:Thursday, October 21, 2021 5:37 PM
To:Amschler, Crystal C CIV USARMY CESAW(USA) <C_r [e-mail]>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: [External] BR 237 Haywood county
Will do.
Also, on BR237 I just got reminded that they recently added to the design an extended wingwall with rip rap on the right
bank below the bridge. Apparently they had not noticed the undercutting that had occurred since initial design till they
did flood damage surveys after the August storm. They did not tell me about this until after I submitted this application
to you and Kevin. I will get you revised permit drawings with revised rip rap impacts soon. Sorry about that. They are
killing me with this stuff.
The easement is held by Cleanwater Management Trust Fund which I believe should have no IRT oversight. I spoke with
Marissa long ago and she only indicated this would need board approval from Cleanwater, no mention of anything
else. I mentioned the CE because I am guessing it is the nearby mitigation site you referenced, or maybe that is
something else (?).
From:Amschler, Crystal C CIV USARMY CESAW(USA) <C_ryst ll.C.A_mschler(_L.asacee_arrny.mil>
Sent:Thursday, October 21, 20214:57 PM
To: McHenry, David G <d,-, enry@ncdot. ov>
Subject: RE: [External] BR 237 Haywood county
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Yep, looks like the same thing happened with the B315&B5898 project. I will forward up the chain to let them know
there is a problem. In the meantime if you'll send me the attachments for the B315 &B5898 project I'd appreciate it.
As to the BR237 project. Is the conservation easement for DMS or a private bank? If so that will have to be addressed
through the state IRT as well I believe.
Crystal C.Amschler
Project Manager
Asheville Regulatory Field Office
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151 Patton Avenue, Room 208
Asheville, NC 28801
(828)-271-7980 Ext 4231
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continue to do so, please complete the Customer Satisfaction Survey located at:
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From: McHenry, David G <do enr @ncdot. ov>
Sent:Thursday, October 21, 20214:32 PM
To:Amschler, Crystal C CIV USARMY CESAW(USA) <C_r [e-mail]>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: [External] BR 237 Haywood county
Sorry Crystal,
Something is messed up with the submittal process, maybe its me but if so I don't know what I am doing wrong. The
system format was recently changed to where most everything is now lump-placed at the end of the submittal form (see
screenshot below), so I am wondering if that has something to do with it??? I take it you did not get any of the
attachments below.
Anyway, attached is the stuff I sent(or meant to). The only response to tribal coordination is from Catawba and it is
attached.
The property being impacted is under a conservation easement from Cleanwater Management Trust fund and that has
been or is being addressed with Marissa Hartzler with Cleanwater.
Thanks
Dave
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Hey Dave,
Was looking over this PCN we received last month and it looks like the submittal was just the pcn itself. You had sent
the tribal coordination and archaeological information separately via email but there was no cover letter with the
package. Also Kevin had sent the PCN previously with some of the normal info but no cover letter and then he askes to
withdrawn that one. At this point can you please provide any supplemental info if there is any to include any revised
plans and a cover letter that addresses the Section 7 info and the mitigation site that is near by. Also, was there any
responses from tribes on this one?
Thanks,
Crystal C.Amschler
Project Manager
Asheville Regulatory Field Office
151 Patton Avenue, Room 208
Asheville, NC 28801
(828)-271-7980 Ext 4231
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continue to do so, please complete the Customer Satisfaction Survey located at:
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