20120490 Ver 1_More Info Received_20131001

Burdette, Jennifer a
From: jspangler @spanglerenvironmental.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:05 PM
To: Brown, Craig J SAW; Burdette, Jennifer a
Cc: Cal Rieder
Subject: Re: DWQ #12 -0490, Corps AID #2012 -00835 (Old Crews Road, Wake County)
(UNCLASSIFIED)
Hello Craig,
This was not new construction, but instead an upgrade of an existing culvert under Old Crews Road
to DOT specs for the Town as a result of development I'm the region. It was necessary to impact
wetlands to get side slopes on the new elevation to work. There were no new stream impacts -
everything stays within the already- impacted stream length. That is why you don't see a stream
quantity in the PCN or the NWP you issued. As I understand the information from the applicant, with
the proposed revision, there still are no new impacts, but the plan has changed as to location and
form of construction within the previous impact area, as described in the attachments to the previous
email. The 401 Cert. required, as a condition, that DWQ be notified of any plan change. We have
included you in the loop for record - keeping purposes.
This upgrade work has not yet commenced, bit of course th original road has been in place for
decades.
Regards,
Jim Spangler
Spangler Environmental, Inc.
919- 630 -5637
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From: "Brown, Craig J SAW" <Craig.J.Brown(ausace. army. miI>
To: "Jim Spangler" < jspangler (aspanglerenvironmental.com >, "Jennifer. Burdette(ancdenr.gov"
< Jennifer. Burdette(a)ncdenr.gov>
Cc: "Cal Rieder" < cal (aspanglerenvironmental.com>
Subject: DWQ #12 -0490, Corps AID #2012 -00835 (Old Crews Road, Wake County)
(UNCLASSIFIED)
Date: Tue, Oct 1, 2013 10:09 AM
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
Jim,
Since the culvert was extended 10', do this result in increased wetland impacts? If yes, how much more impacts
to the wetlands?
What were the total stream impacts (rip -rap and dissipater pad ?); looking briefly at the PCN, I don't see any

mention of stream impacts.
Has this work been completed?
Craig
Craig J. Brown
USACE Raleigh Regulatory Field Office
3331 Heritage Trade Drive
Wake Forest, NC 27587
(919) 554 -4884 x35
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From: Jim Spangler [mailto:jspan ler ( spanglerenvironmental.com]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:30 PM
To: Jennifer. Burdette2ncdenr.gov, Brown, Craig J SAW
Cc: Cal Rieder
Subject: [EXTERNAL] DWQ 412 -0490, Corps AID 42012 -00835 (Old Crews Road, Wake County)
Jenifer and Craig,
Please find attached a modification to the above - referenced project. The culvert has been shortened, but the
location of impacts has had to shift to accommodate NCDOT design comments. See the attached e -mails and
documents for more background. Pursuant to the notification of change condition in the 401 certification
approval letter dated September 12, 2012, we are providing this change information to you.
If you have ay questions, please feel free to contact me.
Best regards,
Jim
James A. (Jim) Spangler, CEI, A.M.ASCE
President
Spangler Environmental, Inc.
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Burdette, Jennifer a
From: Jim Spangler U Spangler @spanglerenvironmental.com]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:30 PM
To: Burdette, Jennifer a; craig.j.brown @usace. army. miI
Cc: Cal Rieder
Subject: DWQ #12 -0490, Corps AID #2012 -00835 (Old Crews Road, Wake County)
Attachments: Village at Beaver Dam - Old Crews Road Culvert; Old Crews Road Culvert Replacement
Jenifer and Craig,
Please find attached a modification to the above - referenced project. The culvert has been shortened, but the location of
impacts has had to shift to accommodate NCDOT design comments. See the attached e -mails and documents for more
background. Pursuant to the notification of change condition in the 401 certification approval letter dated September 12,
2012, we are providing this change information to you.
If you have ay questions, please feel free to contact me.
Best regards,
Jim
James A. (Jim) Spangler, CEI, A.M.ASCE
President
Spangler Environmental, Inc.
4338 Bland Road, Raleigh, NC 27609
office 919 - 875 -4288
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www.SaanalerEnvironmental.com
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Burdette, Jennifer a
From:
David Dunn [David.Dunn @bnkinc.com]
Sent:
Monday, September 09, 2013 3:31 PM
To:
Jim Spangler
Cc:
pallen @beazer.com
Subject:
Old Crews Road Culvert Replacement
Attachments:
Profile View.pdf; Plan View.pdf
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Jim,
I have attached the revised impact maps for the Old Crews Road culvert extension as requested. The following
summarizes the revisions:
• The length of the culvert was extended by 10 -feet at the inlet end of the culvert due to comments from NCDOT.
NCDOT requires that the top of the headwall be approximately 1 -foot above the top of the pipe; consequently,
we had to lengthen the culvert pipe resulting in 10 -feet of additional stream impact at the inlet end of the
culvert. Please note that there is existing rip rap in the stream channel at the inlet end as it was impacted during
the original culvert installation work.
• The length of the rip rap dissipator pad at the outlet end of the culvert was reduced by 15 -feet. The original
length of rip rap proposed was 40 -feet. The revised length is 25 -feet. This results in a 5 -foot reduction in the
length of stream impact as compared to the original approved impacts.
• The culvert size was increased from a 137 "x87" aluminum arch culvert to a 147 "x87" aluminum arch culvert with
headwalls. This did not result in any increase in the amount of stream and /or wetland impacts.
The other road cross - sections /wetland impacts original proposed have not changed. Please let me know if you have any
questions or need additional information.
David L. Dunn, PE
Bass, Nixon and Kennedy, Inc.
6310 Chapel Hill Road, Suite 250
Raleigh, NC 27607
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
E -Mail: david.dunn(a)BNKinc.com

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Burdette, Jennifer a
From: David Dunn [David.Dunn @bnkinc.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:22 PM
To: Jim Spangler
Cc: pallen @beazer.com
Subject: Village at Beaver Dam - Old Crews Road Culvert
Jim,
Patrick and I just met with NCDOT concerning the culvert crossing on Old Crews Road. NCDOT Hydraulics is requiring
that we extend the headwall toward the stream at the inlet end of the culvert to reduce the height of the headwall
above the top of the pipe culvert. This will result in a longer pipe length and approximately 10 -12 feet of additional
stream impact on the upstream side of the culvert. NCDOT said that we could reduce the length of rip rap at the outlet
end of the culvert to offset the additional impact on the upstream end. We are currently showing approximately 40 -feet
of rip rap and they said that this could be reduced to 20 -25 feet of rip rap. This would result in a net reduction in the
length of stream impact required for the culvert installation. If we are reducing the length of the stream impact, do we
need to send the proposed revisions to NCDWQ and Corps for review /approval or is this something that can be handled
as a field change? Thanks.
David L. Dunn, PE
Bass, Nixon and Kennedy, Inc.
6310 Chapel Hill Road, Suite 250
Raleigh, NC 27607
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
E -Mail: david.dunnCo)BNKinc.com