20051457 Ver 1_FW Public Record Request from the Southern Environmental Law Center.msg_20130514

Strickland, Bev
From: Young, Sarah [sarah.young @ncdenr.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:13 AM
To: Reeder, Tom; Tarver, Fred; Peele, Linwood; Ramsey, Dennis R
Subject: FW: Public Record Request from the Southern Environmental Law Center
Attachments: CCSD @knobcrk.pdf; CCW tipping point.txt; FW Cleveland County Water Intake (UNCLASSIFIED).txt;
RE Cleveland County Reservoir Public Records Request.txt; RE Cleveland County Water_dr.txt;
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I have only received files from Fred. Does anyone else have anything? I would like to get this together by COB Friday.
From: Tarver, Fred
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:20 AM
To: Young, Sarah
Subject: RE: Public Record Request from the Southern Environmental Law Center
Sarah,
I ve attached emails associated with recent public information request on CCW.
Fred
Email: fred.tarver @ncdenr.gov
Phone: 919 - 707 -9029
Fax: 919 - 733 -3558
From: Young, Sarah
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 3:23 PM
To: Reeder, Tom; Tarver, Fred; Peele, Linwood; Ramsey, Dennis R
Subject: FW: Public Record Request from the Southern Environmental Law Center
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to gather this? I was going to call the attorney and give him some sort of estimate.
From: Reeder, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 7:33 AM
To: Young, Sarah
Subject: FW: Public Record Request from the Southern Environmental Law Center
Tom Reeder
Director, NC Division of Water Resources
Phone: 919 - 707 -9027

email: tom.reeder @ncdenr.gov
E -mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to
third parties.
From: Laura LaFleur <Ilafleur @selcnc.org>
Date: Monday, April 1, 2013 5:14 PM
To: Tom Reeder <tom.reeder @ncdenr.gov>
Cc: DJ Gerken <dlgerken @selcnc.org>
Subject: RE: Public Record Request from the Southern Environmental Law Center
From: Laura LaFleur
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 5:14 PM
To: 'tom.reeder(d)ncdenr.aov'
Cc: DJ Gerken
Subject: Public Record Request from the Southern Environmental Law Center
Mr. Reeder,
Please see the attached Public Record Request, sent to you today via US Certified Mail. Please contact DJ Gerken at
dlgerken @selcnc.org or via phone at 828 - 258 -2023 if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Laura LaFleur
Office Administrative and Legal Assistant
Southern Environmental Law Center
22 South Pack Sq. Suite 700
Asheville, NC 28801
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
www.southernenvironment.ore

RE Cleveland County Reservoir Public Records Request
From: Tarver, Fred
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:46 AM
To: Young, Sarah; Peele, Linwood
Subject: RE: Cleveland County Reservoir Public Records
Request
Sarah,
Did you /Linwood cover Woody's files?
Fred
From: Young, Sarah
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:10 AM
To: Reeder, Tom; Fransen, Tom; Tarver, Fred; Peele, Linwood
Subject: Cleveland County Reservoir Public Records Request
Hi all:
I just got a call from DJ Gurkin of Southern Environmental Law
Center asking when we would have all of
this information ready. I believe Linwood and Fred have
completed their record search and Fred has also
provided me with Jim's records. I still need to get into Steve's
email, which I have yet to figure out how
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RE Cleveland County Reservoir Public Records Request
to do. Tom and Tom: you both have records too, correct? I'm
going to call him back and ask for another
week. Could everyone provide your records by then? You can
put hard copies in the box on my back
desk and electronic records in a folder marked SELC Request
in my transfer folder. Thanks, Sarah
Sarah M. Young
Public Information Officer /Division of Water Resources
1611 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699 -1611
Ph: (919) 707 -9033
Fax: [phone]
Email: sarah.young @ncdenr.gov
E -mail correspondence to and from this address may be
subject to the North Carolina Public
Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
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.tally V, 1997
kir- Nlikc T Dowd
Nlc(illl Asqnciatcs, PA
PO. Box 2259
A.sheville, North Carolina 28802
Dtar- kfi. Dowd.
This 'is in response to yoijr letter dated June 26, 1997 reg Bard .n withdrawal limits for the
pi-oposed withdrawal by the Cleveland County Sanitary District (CC SD) from Knob Crock and
LhQ,L FiT-sL Bi,-oud River"
We havc. n vic Acd the scale clrawill�� ' nd YOU pfcividcd a have ocincluded that. a Sep2iluLe I Ili []H 111-1111
flciw will riot be necessary fior the Knob Crock Intako, This dcto.rrninatloji Is basc,-d on tho, ractors
[isled below. If any of this information change,,, or if we have inkinterpreLed the drawings, plea.e
inlfurni th,Q Divl lon uf Wawr T e tar r e (DWR).
The downstrealu edlce of t]iQ,. intak-c will be gaily about 250 foct fi-orri thk�' 1;01111ucllcct With
the Fivqt Broad River.
Based on the contour lines and edue of hater indicated on the plans, the water surface
td,eVkltj9-)Fl act 11112 GUIlf1L1e17L:-e IS abOLLt 784 feet MSL. The �,eiitc•tint, bottom elevation. of
Knob Uock, varies between T�2 atnd 783 4,-eL MSL ol'Lh� -Inl,uke. Therefore
it appears that a ba•k-water exisi,5fi-opit thc tonfluciieu. LO tile imaku.
Rcwirdinq nummum flow roquirguents for tho First Bi-pad RJIVCI.'
foj_ the First r�-.),
Th�, 7( 't J ad Kjv(.,r.1uqt, (IL amof Knob Crc k hay, tjvt:u esLiuiaLed at 71,.6
refs, or 46.1 mod Oettor front USG S dated March 4, 1996)- flit-',, propu6W Mal Qapaoty for the
new wi t li d rawal po I ji t is 10,0 ni v d, or 21 6% ul"flic 7()l0. RLU1-U1-l-jVCr WiLhdr4wals in eXC4�Ss of
201% of the 7Q10 typically require mcorporatinji (if mill'111111111 flow 1-cquin�aicws nc(,essary to
inaintain aquatic habitat.
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July' 7, 1997 letter to Mike Dowd
Par-le 2
In this (:use the proposed withdi-awal is onty 0-5 iilgd abcrve 20% of the 7Q] 0. FuFflicrincii-Q,
I' AVK, lias previously uunducted a site - .peclfir field study Of insLreajit flows, and aquatic liabotat ill
rhis reach of the First Broad River. Based on this -qudy and, the small amotlfl[ bV which Ifie
proposed withdraw-al oxcccds the 20% 7Q 10 threshold- no ni-Iii-Imum flow cat' mthdr-awal
coastraint will be required at the am iraakv.
Thig dCLUI-Illinadon is based on the a�,� Ion I
I umpt � that lho mm%irnum, instantanCOUS withdrawal rate
w] 10.0 mp-d. Higher pumping rates would rNmrc of minimum flows Ajiv
f1iti.ire of (fm withdrawal will aki) FC(11111-0 I-CViCW 0CIIliIliIT%jl`l flows needed to
maintain RqUMIC. hablW,
CC-SJ) S1101-11d, also imisult with the Division of Watcf Quality to determine ir'this wx,,irhdrmvaj will
aft'C--U, the p0l-miL r,qulr ments for any do%viistroaai waAi-,uaIeT treatment plant discharges by
mduc-Ing the. 11mv. available fir agsimilarive Cap ac.-IN.
Please contact mo at 919/715-54,16 or Jim Mead at 9 [ 9/7 15-54,78 if ymi have any furifier
cjuc tion,,;.
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John SuflicrImad
Water Plan'lling Si2uOull, Chief
QC., Jim Mead. Steve RQ,- d, & Woudy Yonts - DWR
Stt-phanio Goudreau -NV'R(''
Carla Sanderson & Steve Znufaly - DWQ
Jessica Miles - DELI.

JL1110 26, 1997
Mr. Jot-in Southeriand, Chief
Water Planning Section
DiViSi011 Of W'Wff RUSOLIFUCS
Nar0t Carolina Department of Environment
Hc-altli and Namrai f(esources
Post Office Box 27687
Raleigh, North Carolina, 2761.1
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On behalf of the Clm-,land. County Sanitary DiNtritt, we are hereby making a request ftir 1110
allowable withdrawal fimit� for to proposed raw waur in,14iko loc,�md bcmcen (tic First Broad River and,
Knob Creek (see attached figm-c-,S). Wig WOUld also appreciate it if YOLL WOUld provide tiS with the
Sniiii',iry District's whhdrmal thilit ',It [heir CUrrem intakp, on the First Broad River.
At pEosuiiL, Llit Cleveland County Sanitary District is in the process of atiempting to obtain an
cniurgenc y loan througii the Public Walser Supply Section of the Division of hrviroamental Healiji, aw(l
any efforts to expedite this request w i I I be greatly appreciated_
Thank you in advance for ymii aisimamuc, If you have' any (ItAusliwis Liu uuimnents during your
review, please do not liesiule to c-a11,
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FW Cleveland County Water Intake (UNCLASSIFIED)
From: Kichefski, Steven L SAW
< Steven .L. Kichefski @usace. army. miI>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 7:37 AM
To: Brown, David W SAW; Tarver, Fred
Subject: FW: Cleveland County Water Intake
(UNCLASSIFIED)
Attachments: CCW_screencapture.jpg
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
Fred,
David Brown from our office will be the county manager for
Cleveland and I have copied him on this
email. I am not familiar with any recent permits for that
area /project, but will have to review files to
make sure. Thanks for the information and we will see what
we can find out.
Regards,
Steve Kichefski
Regulatory Specialist
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FW Cleveland County Water Intake (UNCLASSIFIED)
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Wilmington District, Asheville Field Office
151 Patton Avenue, Suite 208
Asheville, NC 28801
(828) - 271 -7980 Ext. 234
The Wilmington District is committed to providing the highest
level of support to the public. To help us
ensure we continue to do so, please complete the Customer
Satisfaction Survey located at our website
at http:// per2 .nwp.usace.army.miI /survey.htmI to complete the
survey online.
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From: Tarver, Fred [mailto:fred.tarver @ncdenr.gov]
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:16 PM
To: Kichefski, Steven L SAW
Subject: Cleveland County Water Intake
Steven,
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FW Cleveland County Water Intake (UNCLASSIFIED)
I was putting together a map for our basin planning effort and
was assembling lat /longs of water
systems in the Broad Basin with an online mapping system
and discovered this image that I've attached.
The image is a screen capture of the Cleveland County Water
intake at the confluence of First Broad
River and Knob Creek. The image is copyrighted 2012. 1
remember when they proposed the new intake
at the confluence a decade ago, but I don't remember the use
of rip rap in both streams to provide
backwater into the channel cuts.
Do you know if there is a 404/401 for this fill?
Thanks,
-I
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FW Cleveland County Water Intake (UNCLASSIFIED)
Fred R Tarver III
Division of Water Resources
NC Department of Environment & Natural Resources
1611 Mail Service Center
Raleigh. NC 27699 -1611
Email: fred.tarver @ncdenr.gov
Phone: 919 - 707 -9029
Fax: 919 - 733 -3558

FW Cleveland County Water Intake (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
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RE Cleveland County Water_dr
From: Tarver, Fred
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:21 PM
To: Ramsey, Dennis R
Cc: Peele, Linwood; Reed, Steven
Subject: RE: Cleveland County Water
Attachments: CCSD @knobcrk.pdf
Dennis,
This was part of the late `90's EA to relocate their intake to the
Knob Crk confluence.
See attached.
Fred
From: Ramsey, Dennis R
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:20 PM
To: Tarver, Fred
Cc: Peele, Linwood
Subject: Cleveland County Water
Fred
I am trying to gain a better understanding of the water system
operated by Cleveland County Water. In
a Preliminary Alternatives Analysis developed for CCW by
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RE Cleveland County Water_dr
McGill Asso. dated August 10, 2011, they state
(top of page 3) that CCW currently has approval to increase
their withdrawal rate on the First Broad
River to 15.47 cfs (10 MGD) in the future with the expansion of
their water treatment plant.
So far, I have been unable to find a document from DWR or
anyone else that clearly commits that
volume (10 MGD) to CCW. Are you aware of such a
document? If so, do you know where I can get a
copy?
Thanks
Dennis
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CCW tipping point
From: Tarver, Fred
Sent: Thursday, July
To: Reeder, Tom
Cc: Fransen, Tom;
Subject: CCW & tipping
Tom,
127 2012 4:18 PM
Reed, Steven
point
Tom Fransen asked me to investigate Cleveland County
Water's future demand capacity and what
"tipping point" may exist to shift the least environmentally
damaging practicable alternative (LEDPA)
from an alternative source back to the applicant's preferred
alternative of a reservoir on the First Broad
River.
I called Henry Wicker and we discussed this issue. Here are
the bullet points of our discussion:
The Corps doesn't work that way. "Reverse
engineering" a project to fit the applicant's
preference may have legal ramifications. (He mentioned that
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CCW tipping point
the Southern Environmental Law
Center has served a FOIA on the Corps regarding this project.)
The evaluation is based on Purpose and Need, and
the Corps sees no indication that current
projected demands can't be met by one or more of the
alternative sources. No "tipping point"
yet exists.
We didn't discuss what it would require to be considered a firm
future demand outside of the present
and projected service areas.
Hope this helps. Please let me know if you wish to discuss
further.
Fred
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