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Strickland, Bev
From: Miller, Vickie M. (Raleigh) <[e-mail]>
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To: Gibby, Jean B CIV USARMY CESAW (USA); Williams, Andrew E CIV USARMY CESAW
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Cc: Garvey, Jackson
Subject: [External] RE: City of Greensboro Waterline Loop Project - Request for Permit
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Hi Jean,
We had teams review the water/sewer line alignment on Monday. There were no Schweinitz's sunflowers found within
the permitted area. The teams also reviewed the area for small whorled pogonia habitat and it wasn't found. Please let
me know if you need additional information.
Thank you,
Vickie
Vickie Miller, AICP, PWS
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From: Miller, Vickie M. (Raleigh)
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 12:45 PM
To: Gibby, Jean B CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Williams, Andrew E CIV USARMY CESAW
(USA) <[e-mail]>; Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
Cc: Garvey, Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: City of Greensboro Waterline Loop Project - Request for Permit Modification
Hi Jean,
We actually have teams lined up to go out in the field next Monday and Tuesday to refresh the surveys since we are
coming up on the 2 years since the last one. We will share the results of that survey once it is completed.
Thanks,
Vickie
Vickie Miller, AICP, PWS
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From: Gibby, Jean B CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 12:18 PM
To: Miller, Vickie M. (Raleigh) <[e-mail]>; Williams, Andrew E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)
<[e-mail]>; Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
Cc: Garvey, Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: City of Greensboro Waterline Loop Project - Request for Permit Modification
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My apologies Vickie for not having gotten that far in the document. However, I have a list from the Service that states
surveys are only valid for a certain period of time. The surveys are valid for small whorled pogonia for 1 year and for
Schweinitz's sunflower for 2 years. Please advise on how you plan to address since the field visits were conducted in
2015 for small whorled pogonia and the survey will expire in the next couple of weeks for Schweinitz's sunflower.
Thanks so much,
Jean
Jean B. Gibby
Chief, Raleigh Field Office
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Wilmington District
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, NC 27587
[phone], Ext. 24
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From: Miller, Vickie M. (Raleigh) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:40 AM
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Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: City of Greensboro Waterline Loop Project - Request for Permit Modification
Hi Jean,
Please review the last page of the document I just sent. It details whether or not habitat exists and the results of the
surveys conducted if habitat was there.
Thanks,
Vickie
Vickie Miller, AICP, PWS
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From: Gibby, Jean B CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:29 AM
To: Miller, Vickie M. (Raleigh) <[e-mail]>; Williams, Andrew E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)
<[e-mail]>; Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
Cc: Garvey, Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: City of Greensboro Waterline Loop Project - Request for Permit Modification
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Vickie,
I had received the updated and I appreciate it. My apologies for not having acknowledged, but this email was in
response to the information provided in your 30 Aug 21 email. However, in getting back up to speed with all things ESA,
I was asking the PMs in the shop about addressing the plant species. They mentioned that they have begun to ask for
consultants to further address suitable habitat, which is entirely different than critical habitat that has been identified
and put on notice by the USFWS to aid us in making our determination. Based upon my discussions, small whorled
pogonia likes wooded areas and Schweinitz's sunflower likes disturbed areas, like road shoulders. So, in order for me to
concur that the project can proceed without a PCN, I would need information that either states that suitable habitat is
not present and/or a survey that supports that they are not present.
If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Jean
Jean B. Gibby
Chief, Raleigh Field Office
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Wilmington District
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, NC 27587
[phone], Ext. 24
Email: [e-mail]
We would appreciate your feedback on how we are performing our duties. Our automated Customer Service Survey is
located at: http://corpsmapu.usace.army.mil/cm apex/f?p=136:4:0
Thank you for taking the time to visit this site and complete the survey.
From: Miller, Vickie M. (Raleigh) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:48 AM
To: Gibby, Jean B CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Williams, Andrew E CIV USARMY CESAW
(USA) <[e-mail]>; Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
Cc: Garvey, Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: City of Greensboro Waterline Loop Project - Request for Permit Modification
Hi Jean,
See attached. I had Jackson update the Self Certification for the 2019 field work. You will see in the USFWS info that
there are no critical habitats within our project area and in the NHP there are no federally listed species known within
the project area.
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Please let us know if you have additional questions.
Thank you,
Vickie
Vickie Miller, AICP, PWS
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From: Gibby, Jean B CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 2:45 PM
To: Miller, Vickie M. (Raleigh) <[e-mail]>; Williams, Andrew E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)
<[e-mail]>; Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
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Vickie,
Thanks for the information on the aquatic species that would need to be addressed, but didn't see anything pertaining
to the endangered flora. If you wished to proceed, we would need something that confirms that neither suitable habitat
or the species are present at the crossing locations and the uplands immediately adjacent to those crossings.
Jean
Jean B. Gibby
Chief, Raleigh Field Office
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Wilmington District
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, NC 27587
[phone], Ext. 24
Email: [e-mail]
We would appreciate your feedback on how we are performing our duties. Our automated Customer Service Survey is
located at: http://corpsmapu.usace.army.mil/cm apex/f?p=136:4:0
Thank you for taking the time to visit this site and complete the survey.
From: Miller, Vickie M. (Raleigh) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 4:39 PM
To: Gibby, Jean B CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Williams, Andrew E CIV USARMY CESAW
(USA) <[e-mail]>; Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
Cc: Garvey, Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: City of Greensboro Waterline Loop Project - Request for Permit Modification
Hi Jean,
We have resurveyed every two years to make sure we stay up to date on the listings. The Atlantic pigtoe is listed as
proposed threatened for Guilford and Randolph Counties but the waterline project area only intersects the range for the
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species near Ledbetter and Hemphill Roads. There is one small intermittent stream that crosses the study area in that
location SA-181-7 (maps attached). This stream does not maintain adequate flow or the habitat that the Atlantic pigtoe
requires. I took a clip of the USFWS page this morning just to reverify that there we not changes in the range since the
last time we checked. Big Alamance and Climax Creeks are not within the range of the species. The project should not
have any impacts to the Atlantic pigtoe. Jackson pulled the USFWS and NHP information (both attached) today so you
would have it available as well.
Let us know if you need anything else.
Thanks,
Vickie
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To: Miller, Vickie M. (Raleigh) <[e-mail]>; Williams, Andrew E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)
<[e-mail]>; Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
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Vicki,
It appears that the Atlantic Pigtoe has been listed since your initial request and I know that this portion of the project
will impact Big Alamance Creek and Climax Creek based upon the provided drawings. I know you mentioned you keep
these surveys up-to-date, so perhaps you have additional documentation that would support that the project would not
impact the recently listed species since the contractor is now proposing open cutting. Please advise or feel free to
contact me with any questions.
V/R,
Jean B. Gibby
Chief, Raleigh Field Office
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Wilmington District
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, NC 27587
[phone], Ext. 24
Email: [e-mail]
We would appreciate your feedback on how we are performing our duties. Our automated Customer Service Survey is
located at: http://corpsmapu.usace.army.mil/cm apex/f?p=136:4:0
Thank you for taking the time to visit this site and complete the survey.
From: Miller, Vickie M. (Raleigh) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 12:41 PM
To: Gibby, Jean B CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Williams, Andrew E CIV USARMY CESAW
(USA) <[e-mail]>; Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
Cc: Garvey, Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: City of Greensboro Waterline Loop Project - Request for Permit Modification
Hi Jean,
Thank you for the call earlier today regarding the City's waterline loop project permit. I appreciate your time and
assistance on the project. I have attached the E/T species information we discussed earlier.
We are requesting the project impacts be permitted under Nationwide Permit Numbers 58 and 13.
Sue, I left you a voicemail to discuss the corresponding General Certifications. I looked over them and didn't see any
condition that we couldn't meet but please let me know if you have concerns.
Please let us know if either of you need any additional information.
Thank you,
Vickie
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From: Miller, Vickie M. (Raleigh)
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 20214:37 PM
To: Gibby, Jean B CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Williams, Andrew E CIV USARMY CESAW
(USA) <[e-mail]>; Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
Cc: Garvey, Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: City of Greensboro Waterline Loop Project - Request for Permit Modification
Good afternoon all,
I had mentioned a little while back that we would have a modification on the Greensboro water/sewer line loop
project. I finally received the information and have attached the files to this email for your review. In general, there are
five sites where we were previously planning to avoid by jack and boring pipes under the streams but in the first location
the contractor has encountered rock that is extremely hard and they have not been able to complete a jack and
bore. As they move along they are still intending to use jack and bore where it is possible but they wanted to request
the modification in case they encounter rock at the other crossings. Please let me know if you need additional
information beyond the attached cover letter and the updated exhibits.
Thank you,
Vickie
Vickie Miller, AICP, PWS
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