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Home My WebLink About20050222 Ver 3_Emails_20130814Scheller, Roberto From: Hart, Kevin Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 11:06 AM To: Ted Sampson Cc: Howell, Jonathan; Scheller, Roberto; 'Ron' Subject: RE: Andron Properties /drummond Pt Ted, For areas C and D marked on the drawing I was proposing allowing you to continue the structure so that it would not be left open to the wave energy. Allowing this to occur will leave a large amount of SAV impacted by the footprint. This is why I have proposed the removal of the breakwater in the "cove" area that will be impacting SAV (in this instance an invasive species). Although this species is invasive it still provides habitat benefits (refuge and water quality). Kevi n From: Ted Sampson [ mailto :sampsonandco @roadrunner.com] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 4:47 PM To: Hart, Kevin Cc: Howell, Jonathan; Scheller, Roberto; 'Ron' Subject: RE: Andron Properties /drummond Pt Kevin, Yes, I received your email, and obtained a copy of the marked -up drawing that was used in the field from Roberto Scheller, and have supplied that to Mr. Andronowitz, and have had some preliminary discussions with him. I need to touch base with him again, as he has been considering your proposal, and I need to obtain his feedback. Some additional clarification is needed from DMF as well. Referring to the marked -up drawing from Roberto, in both areas C and D marked on that drawing, the alignments agreed to in the field stopped short on the northern extent of each alignment of reaching, or overlapping, the bulkheads to the north. This leaves the wetlands intended for protection in these 2 areas open to winds and waves ranging from the N -NE -E across the Sound, and kind of defeats the purpose of the rest of the alignments. Was it your intent that these gaps would have to be left unprotected, or did you intend to invoke the possibility that was discussed in the field of continuing from these points with pile /sheetpile breakwater to effect the rest of the needed protection for these 2 areas? It was also a bit of a surprised to see your suggestion to remove all of the alignments from west and south of the proposed bulkhead, along the "cove" shoreline. While in the field I thought you were indicating that SAV in these areas was predominantly, if not completely, Eurasian Water Millfoile, an invasivie specie, and I inferred, perhaps wrongly, that this meant that these alignments, north of the boatramp would be ok. As the wetlands along this shoreline erode, the useable, buildable area of lots 13 and 14 (and to a lesser extent lot 12), diminish accordingly, and Mr. Andronowitz has significant, and understandable concerns over the proposal to have these shorelines do without protection. I will get back to you again as soon as I am able to have a further discussion with Mr. Andronowitz on these matters. In the meantime, if you could provide feedback on the above, that would be helpful in our considerations. With best regards, Ted Sampson - - - -- Original Message---- - From: Hart, Kevin [mailto:kevin.hartCd)ncdenr.aov] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 3:50 PM To: Ted Sampson; Scheller, Roberto Cc: Howell, Jonathan Subject: RE: Andron Properties /drummond Pt Ted, I wanted to confirm that you received the below email and see if you had any questions regarding what is proposed. Please let me know that you have received this and if you have any questions. Kevi n From: Hart, Kevin Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:40 AM To: 'Ted Sampson'; Scheller, Roberto Cc: 'Ron'; Howell, Jonathan; Deaton, Anne; Rawls, Kathy Subject: RE: Andron Properties /drummond Pt Ted, Sorry it has taken me a few days to get back to you but I have been in meetings most of the week. After walking the site with you on Monday (7/22/13) and talking it over I hope that we have come to a resolution that works. As we walked the alignment we moved the center line to areas that are currently void of SAVs. On several locations when we tried to find a route to return the breakwater back into land we encountered areas that had SAV present (patches and 100% coverage). In order for DMF to be OK with the project's SAV impacts that we could not avoid, we would require several conditions. The first condition would be that the alignment follows what we marked on site on July 22, 2013. The second condition would include the removal of the entire breakwater from the northern most point new proposed breakwater (marked B1 on attached map) extending south to and past the ramp, removing the entire breakwater within this area. Removing this section of the breakwater will minimize the impacts from this project. After visiting the site again there is SAV present and there is minimal erosion in the dock /ramp area due to the protected nature of the bay. Boat wake impacts should also be minimal in this area due to the marina location. In addition to the removal of this portion of the breakwater, the NCDMF also proposes that the applicant connects the southernmost breakwater and the breakwater just to the north east (ED on attached map). This will minimize the footprint of the project while avoiding some SAV habitat. If these conditions are met along with the openings as described in the earlier conversations, the NCDMF can remove its objections. If you have any questions please let me know. Also just to let you know, I will be out of the office for a week starting next Tuesday. Kevin t x From: Ted Sampson [ mailto :sampsonandcoCcbroadrunner.com] Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:59 PM To: Hart, Kevin; Scheller, Roberto Cc: 'Ron'; Howell, Jonathan Subject: RE: Andron Properties /drummond Pt Kevin, Roberto, I was at the site on Friday, and able to get the alignments staked so they will be ready for you on Monday. Please let me know when you expect to be at the site. With best regards, Ted Sampson - - - -- Original Message---- - From: Hart, Kevin [mailto:kevin.hartCd)ncdenr.aov] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:38 PM To: Ted Sampson; Howell, Jonathan Cc: 'Ron'; Deaton, Anne Subject: RE: Andron Properties /drummond Pt Ted, I had spoken to Roberto earlier this week and had scheduled next Monday (July 22) to go to this site. This is the only day in the next few weeks that we both have free. We will be using the alignments on the plat that we had when we met in Washington. Kevin From: Ted Sampson [ mailto :sampsonandco(a)roadrunner.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:20 AM To: Hart, Kevin; Howell, Jonathan Cc: 'Ron' Subject: RE: Andron Properties /drummond Pt Kevin, I apologize for the length delay in providing you a response. I was able to confirm with the owner yesterday evening an agreement to go forward with staking the alignments of the proposed riprap sills. I plan to try to get out there this week to stake the GPS points we have for what is on the drawings. I believe that I will be able to have this done at least by Wednesday next week. If you proceed with scheduling your site visit for after next Wednesday, the alignments should be all staked. We look forward to working with you to identify acceptable alignments that have sufficient minimization of impacts. With best regards, Ted Sampson - - - -- Original Message---- - From: Hart, Kevin [mailto:kevin.hartCd)ncdenr.aov] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 12:46 PM To: Howell, Jonathan; Ted Sampson Subject: RE: Andron Properties /drummond Pt Ted, Please let me know if you will be staking the alignment out. Once it's done can you let me know? I'm trying to schedule with others to find a day that works out. Thanks, Kevin From: Howell, Jonathan Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:32 PM To: Ted Sampson; Hart, Kevin Subject: RE: Andron Properties /drummond Pt copying breakwater, they would not have objections strictly due to shallow bottom impacts. I am DIVIF on • keep them in the loop as to the dates to get all this accomplished. Thanks everyone, you and Kevin, for helping move this along. From: Ted Sampson [ mailto :sampsonandcoCa)roadrunner.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:29 PM To: Howell, Jonathan Cc: 'Ron' Subject: RE: Andron Properties /drummond Pt Jonathan, Thanks for forwarding the email. If the agencies would like the alignments staked according to our GIPS points, I will probably need the 8th and /or 9th to get that done. I am still awaiting a green light from Mr. Andronowitz to go ahead with staking the GIPS points. I will get back to you as soon as I know when this can be done. With best regards, Ted Sampson - - - -- Original Message---- - From: Howell, Jonathan [ mailto :jonathan.howellCa)ncdenr.gov] Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 2:30 PM To: Ted Sampson Subject: FW: Andron Properties /drummond Pt Ted, as we discussed. From: Hart, Kevin Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 9:10 AM To: Mathis, Lynn; Scheller, Roberto Cc: Deaton, Anne; Rawls, Kathy; Howell, Jonathan Subject: Andron Properties /drummond Pt Hi All, I'm trying to set up a day that we can all go together to look at the Drummond point breakwater alignment and SAV. I was thinking either July 8 or 9. Does this work for everyone? If so, Kathy do you think one of your staff would be available to join us? We wouldn't necessarily need the boat. Thanks, Kevin Kevin Hart Marine Biologist Habitat Section North Carolina Division of Marine Fisheries 943 Washington Square Mall Washington, NC 27889 252- 948 -3878 Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties unless the content is exempt by statute or other regulation.