20090961 Ver 1_Emails_20091026

Averitte, Ken
Prom:
Mclamb, Erica S
Sent:
Monday, October 26, 2009 2:04 PM
To:
Olinger, John R
Cc:
Averitte, Ken; Staley, Mark K
Subject:
RE: B -4584 Draft permit conditions
John,
I spoke with Ken Averitte on the phone and he is fine with us proceding as described in his
Oct. 21 email. Turbidity curtains will not be required unless there is a significant
increase in turbidity. We have to make sure that the inspector on the job is familiar with
this condition.
Thanks,
Erica Mclamb
Environmental Specialist, NCDOT
919 - 431 -1595
- - - -- Original Message---- -
From: Averitte, Ken
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:52 AM
To: Mclamb, Erica S
Cc: Olinger, John R
Subject: RE: B -4584 Draft permit conditions
Erica,
I talked with John Olinger about the specifics of the bridge pilings on this project. There
will be a few of the "H" piles driven in very shallow water. Given the circumstances of this
particular installation and the type of piling used, I think it would be reasonable to
commence construction without deployment of a turbidity curtain. Obviously, if stream
turbidity increases significantly after the work begins, the curtain should be installed. The
inspector on the job should be familiar with this condition.
This determination is specific to this particular project, B -4584.
If you have further questions, please advise.
- - - -- Original Message---- -
From: Mclamb, Erica S
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2069 3:32 PM
To: Averitte, Ken
Subject: RE: B -4584 Draft permit conditions
Just so I am clear, does this need to be changed, do we not need to use the turbidity
curtains (two bents are located partially in the water) since they would not function
properly?
I need additional clarification.
Erica McLamb
Environmental Specialist, NCOOT
i

919 -431 -1595
- - - -- Original Message---- -
From: Averitte, Ken
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:50 PM
To: Mclamb, Erica S
Subject: RE: B -4584 Draft permit conditions
That condition (26) would only apply to in -water work. Many of these are generic conditions,
and I agree that this one is not clear as to where this is required.
- - - -- Original Message---- -
From: Mclamb, Erica S
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 2:03 PM
To: Averitte, Ken
Subject: FW: B -4584 Draft permit conditions
Additional comments from the division regarding condition #26.
Erica Mclamb
Environmental Specialist, NCDOT
919 - 431 -1595
- - - -- Original Message---- -
From: Olinger, John R
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:34 PM
To: Mclamb, Erica S
Subject: RE: B -4584 Draft permit conditions
I don't see the need for turbidity curtains at all. Looks like we will only have a couple of
piles in the water anyway and they will be right on the bank. The turbidity curtain will
just be piled up due to insufficient water depth.
Other than that T have no comments.
John
John R. G. Olinger, PE
Division Construction Engineer
NCDOT - Division 8
PO Box 1067
Aberdeen, NC 28315
910 - 944 -2344
910 - 944 -5623 Fax
- - - -- Original Message---- -
From: Mclamb, Erica S
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 6:48 AM
To: Olinger, John R
Subject: FW: B -4584 Draft permit conditions
P]

I just wanted to forward Mark Staley's comments to you to see if I should contact Ken
regarding permit condition 26, or if you think it is okay.
Erica McLamb
Environmental Specialist, NCDOT
919 - 431 -1595
- - - -- Original Message---- -
From: Staley, Mark K
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 3:21 PM
To: Mclamb, Erica S
Subject: RE: B -4584 Draft permit conditions
Erica,
In reviewing these conditions, I had a concern with one item.
Condition 26 requires the use of turbidity curtains around all pile driving or drilling
activities. From what I could see on the Roadway and Structure plans, it appears that the
new bridge piles will probably be placed outside of the water, or a couple may just barely be
in the edge of the water. I am not sure turbidity curtains could be placed in water this
shallow, or if they would even function correctly here. I guess if the Division thinks it is
OK to require turbidity curtains for this project, we will try to come up with a quantity for
them in our plans. I just don't see them being very practical here.
Let me know if this condition will remain or be changed, and if you have any other questions
for REU concerning this project. Thanks.
Mark Staley
- - - -- Original Message---- -
From: Mclamb, Erica S
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:58 AM
To: Allen, Ronald (Ron) D; Blevins, Scott D; Chang, David S; Davis, Vickie G; Garris, Randy
A; Johnson, Timothy; King, Art C; Koch, Thomas K; McMillan, Art; Olinger, John R; Perfetti,
Gregory R; Robinson, Michael S; Scott, Darren R; Staley, Mark K; Sykes, Dewayne L; Watson,
Malcolm C; Zerman, William S; Walter, Tracy A; Griffin, Randy W; Paugh, Leilani Y
Subject: 8 -4584 Draft permit conditions
Attached to this email are the WQC Permit Conditions for project 8 -4584 3701 (Bridge No. 11
over the Little River in Moore County). Please review the attachment to ensure NCDOT can
comply with the conditions for this project. The NW 23 404 conditions will also be
distributed, if necessary, once the permit is received. Please reply with any comments by
October 23, 2009. If you have no comment, please return an email indicating No Comment.
Thank you,
Erica McLamb
Environmental Specialist, NCDOT
919 - 431 -1595
3