SW8020502_Historical File_20180220

Energy, Mineral &
Land Resources
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
February 20, 2018
Dr. Randy M. Schilsky, Owner
445-A Western Blvd.
Jacksonville, NC 28540
ROY COOPER
Governor
MICHAEL S. REGAN
Secretary
WILLIAM E. (TOBY) VINSON, JR.
Interim Director
Subject: Permit Renewal
State Stormwater Management Permit No. SW8 020502
Schilsky Chiropractic Center
Onslow County
Dear Dr. Schilsky:
Effective August 1, 2013 the State Stormwater program has been transferred from the Division of Water
Quality (DWQ) to the Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources (DEMLR). All previous
references to DWQ will remain in older stormwater permits issued prior to August 1, 2013 until they are
modified. Please note that the updated permit or any updated pages to the permit will now reference
DEMLR as the Division responsible for issuance of the permit.
On January 18, 2018, the Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources (DEMLR) received a permit
Renewal application for the subject project. The Division is hereby notifying you that permit SW8
020502 has been renewed on February 20, 2018 and to remind you that this permit shall be effective until
October 16, 2024. For your records, please find enclosed a copy of the renewed permit and a copy of the
Renewal Application Form.
This permit is subject to the conditions and limitations as specified in the updated permit. Please pay
special attention to the conditions listed in this permit regarding the Operation and Maintenance of the
BMP(s), recordation of deed restrictions, procedures for changes of ownership, transferring the permit,
and renewing the permit. Failure to establish an adequate system for operation and maintenance of the
stormwater management system, to record deed restrictions, to transfer the permit, or to renew the permit,
will result in future compliance problems.
If any parts, requirements, or limitations contained in this permit are unacceptable, you have the right to
request an adjudicatory hearing by filing a written petition with the Office of Administrative Hearings
(OAH). The written petition must conform to Chapter 150B of the North Carolina General Statutes, and
must be filed with the OAH within thirty (30) days of receipt of this permit. You should contact the OAH
with all questions regarding the filing fee (if a filing fee is required) and/or the details of the filing process
at 6714 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-6714, or via telephone at 919-431-3000, or visit their
website at www.NCOAH.com. Unless such demands are made this permit shall be final and binding.
Statr of North Carolina I Environmental Quaitty I Energy. Mineral and Land Resources
Wilmington Regional Office 1127 Cardinal Drive Extension ; Wilmington, NC 28105
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If you have any questions, need additional copies of the permit or approved plans, please contact Kelly
Johnson with DEMI.R in the Wilmington Regional Office at [phone].
Sincerely,
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If you have any questions, need additional copies of the permit or approved plans, please contact Kelly
Johnson with DEMLR in the Wilmington Regional Office at [phone].
Sincerely,
• ,-, William E. oby) Vinson, Jr., PE, CPESC, CPM, Interim Director
Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
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910 T96, 7215

State Stormwater Management Systems
Permit No. SW8 020502
STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
DIVISION OF ENERGY, MINERAL AND LAND RESOURCES
STATE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT
HIGH DENSITY SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT
In accordance with the provisions of Article 21 of Chapter 143, General Statutes of North
Carolina as amended, and other applicable Laws, Rules, and Regulations
PERMISSION IS HEREBY GRANTED TO
Randy M. Schilsky, Owner
Schilsky Chiropractic Center
Western Blvd and Dolphin Drive, Jacksonville, Onslow County
FOR THE
construction, operation and maintenance of one (1) wet detention pond in compliance with
the provisions of 15A NCAC 2H .1000 (hereafter referred to as the "stormwater rules') the
approved stormwater management plans and specifications and other supporting data as
attached and on file with and approved by the Division of Energy, Mineral and Land
Resources (hereafter referred to as the Division or DEMLR) and considered a part of this
permit.
This permit shall be effective from the date of issuance until October 16, 2024 and shall be
subject to the following specified conditions and limitations:
I. DESIGN STANDARDS
1. This permit is effective only with respect to the nature and volume of stormwater
described in the application and other supporting data.
2. This stormwater system has been approved for the management of stormwater runoff
as described in Section 1.8 of this permit. The subdivision is permitted for four
outparcels and one offsite area (First Citizens Bank). Each of the outparcels is limited
to a maximum amount of built -upon area as indicated in Section 11.14 (f) of this permit.
The offsite area (First Citizens Bank) is limited to a maximum of 60,755 square feet of
built -upon area.
3. Approved plans, calculations, supplement forms, operation and maintenance
agreements and specifications for this project are incorporated by reference and are
enforceable parts of the permit.
4. The stormwater control measure has been designed to handle the runoff from 329,610
square feet of impervious area. The runoff from all built -upon area within the permitted
drainage area of this project must be directed into the permitted stormwater control
measure.
5. The drainage area will be limited to the amount of built -upon area indicated in Sections
1.4 and 1.8 of this permit, and per approved plans. This permit does not provide any
allocation of built -upon area for future development.
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Permit No. SW8 020502
6. A vegetated filter strip is not required for this pond
as it has been designed for a 90%
total suspended solids removal efficiency.
7. Prior to the discharge of stormwater runoff from any lot into the approved stormwater
system, the permittee shall ensure that the owner of the lot has obtained a separate
Offsite Stormwater Management Permit from the Division.
8. The following design criteria have been permitted for the wet detention pond and it
must be provided and maintained at the design condition.
a. Drainage Area, acres:
9.63
Onsite, ft2:
419,483
Offsite, ft2:
None
b. Total Impervious Surfaces, ft2:
329,610
Buildings, ft2:
11,492
Streets, ft2:
23,609
Parking, ft2:
24,039
Sidewalk, ft2:
7,240
Outparcel (Lot 1-A), ft2:
43,746
Outparcel (Lot 131), ft2:
52,925
Outparcel (Lot 1), ft2:
58,160
Outparcel (Lot 3), ft2:
47,644
Offsite (SW8 000937), ft2:
60,755
C. Pond Depth, feet:
6
d. TSS removal efficiency:
90%
e. Design Storm:
1"
f. Permanent Pool Elevation, FMSL:
37
g. Permitted Surface Area @PP, ft2:
18,896
h. Permitted Temporary Storage Volume, ft3:
27,000
i. Temporary Storage Elevation, FMSL:
38.3
j. Controlling Orifice:
2.0" 0 pipe
k. Permanent Pool Volume, ft3:
64,600
I. Forebay Volume, ft3:
15,927
m. Maximum Fountain Horsepower:
1/4
n. Receiving Stream / River Basin:
UT to Mill Creek / White Oak
o. Stream Index Number:
19-9
D. Classification of Water Body:
"C; NSW"
II. SCHEDULE OF COMPLIANCE
No person or entity, including the permittee, shall alter any component of the approved
stormwater system shown on the approved plans unless and until the Division has
approved of the revised plan.
2. The permittee is responsible for verifying that the proposed built -upon area for the
entire lot does not exceed the maximum allowed by this permit. Once the lot transfer is
complete, the built -upon area may not be revised without approval from the Division,
and responsibility for meeting the built -upon area limit is transferred to the individual
property owner.
3. If an Architectural Review Board or Committee is required to review plans for
compliance with the BUA limit, the plans reviewed must include all proposed built -upon
area. Any approvals given by the Board do not relieve the homeowner of the
responsibility to maintain compliance with the permitted BUA limit.
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Permit No. SW8 020502
4. The Director may notify the permittee when the permitted site does not meet one or
more of the minimum requirements of the permit. Within the time frame specified in the
notice, the permittee shall submit a written time schedule to the Director for modifying
the site to meet minimum requirements. The permittee shall provide copies of revised
plans and certification in writing to the Director that the changes have been made.
5. The stormwater management system shall be constructed in its entirety, vegetated
and operational for its intended use prior to the construction of any built -upon surface.
6. The permittee shall submit to the Director and shall have received approval for revised
plans, specifications, and calculations prior to construction, for any modification to the
approved plans, including, but not limited to, those listed below:
a. Any revision to any item shown on the approved plans, including the stormwater
management measures, built -upon area, details, etc.
b. Redesign or addition to the approved amount of built -upon area or to the
drainage area.
C. Further development, subdivision, acquisition, lease or sale of any, all or part of
the project area. The project area is defined as all property owned by the
permittee, for which Sedimentation and Erosion Control Plan approval or a
CAMA Major permit was sought.
d. Filling in, altering, or piping of any vegetative conveyance shown on the
approved plan.
e. The construction of any future BUA listed on the application.
7. The Director may determine that other revisions to the project should require a
modification to the permit.
8. All stormwater collection and treatment systems must be located in either public rights -
of -way, dedicated common areas or recorded easements. The final plats for the
project will be recorded showing all such rights -of -way, common areas and
easements, in accordance with the approved plans.
9. During construction, erosion shall be kept to a minimum and any eroded areas of the
system will be repaired immediately. If the stormwater system is used as an Erosion
Control device, it must be restored to design condition prior to operation as a
stormwater treatment device, and prior to occupancy of the facility.
10. Upon completion of construction, prior to issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy, and
prior to operation of this permitted facility, a certification must be received from an
appropriate designer for the system installed certifying that the permitted facility has
been installed in accordance with this permit, the approved plans and specifications,
and other supporting documentation. Any deviations from the approved plans and
specifications must be noted on the Certification.
11. The permittee shall at all times provide the operation and maintenance necessary to
assure that all components of the permitted stormwater system function at design
condition. The approved Operation and Maintenance Agreement is incorporated by
reference into this permit and must be followed in its entirety and maintenance must
occur at the scheduled intervals.
12. Records of maintenance activities must be kept and made available upon request to
authorized personnel of the Division. The records will indicate the date, activity, name
of person performing the work and what actions were taken.
13. The facilities shall be constructed in accordance with the conditions of this permit, the
approved plans and specifications, and other supporting data.
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Permit No. SW8 020502
14 Prior to the sale of any lot, the following deed restrictions must be recorded:
a. The following covenants are intended to ensure ongoing compliance with State
Stormwater Management Permit Number SW8 020502, as issued by the
Division of Energy, Mineral and. Land Resources under NCAC 2H.1000.
b. The State of North Carolina is made a beneficiary of these covenants to the
extent necessary to maintain compliance with the Stormwater Management
Permit.
C. These covenants are to run with the land and be binding on all persons and
parties claiming under them.
d. The covenants pertaining to stormwater may not be altered or rescinded without
the express written consent of the Division.
e. Alteration of the drainage as shown on the approved plans may not take place
without the concurrence of the Division.
f. The maximum built -upon area for the four outparcels and the offsite area is as
follows:
Outparcel /Offsite Area
Max built -upon area (W)
Lot 1-A
43,746
Lot B1 aka Lot 2
52,925
Lot 1
58,160
Lot 3
47,644
Offsite First Citizens Bank
60,755
TOTAL
263,230
This allotted amount includes any built -upon area constructed within the lot
property boundaries, and that portion of the right-of-way between the front lot
line and the edge of the pavement. Built upon area includes, but is not limited
to, structures, asphalt, concrete, gravel, brick, stone, slate, coquina and parking
areas, but does not include raised, open wood decking, or the water surface of
swimming pools.
g. Lots within CAMA's Area of Environmental Concern may be subject to a
reduction in their allowable built -upon area due to CAMA regulations.
h. All runoff from the the lot must drain into the permitted system. This may be
accomplished through providing roof drain gutters, which drain to the pond or
street, grading the lot to drain toward the street or directly into the pond, or
grading perimeter swales and directing them into the pond or street. Lots that
will naturally drain into the system are not required to provide these measures.
i. Built -upon area in excess of the permitted amount will require a permit
modification.
j. Each lot within the subdivision whose ownership is not retained by the
permittee, must submit a separate Offsite Stormwater Management Permit
application package to the Division and receive a permit prior to any
construction on the lot.
15. A copy of the recorded deed restrictions must be submitted to the Division within 30
days of the date of recording the plat, and prior to selling lots. The recorded copy must
contain all of the statements above, the signature of the Permittee, the deed book
number and page, and the stamp/signature of the Register of Deeds.
16. Prior to transfer of the permit, the stormwater facilities will be inspected by Division
personnel. The project and the stormwater facility must be in substantial compliance
with all permit conditions. Any items not in substantial compliance must be repaired,
replaced or restored to design condition prior to the transfer. Records of maintenance
activities performed to date will be required.
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Permit No. SW8 020502
17. A decorative spray fountain will be allowed in the stormwater treatment system,
' subject to the following criteria:
a. The fountain must draw its water from less than 2' below the permanent pool
surface.
b. Separated units, where the nozzle, pump and intake are connected by tubing,
may be used only if they draw water from the surface in the deepest cart of the
pond.
C. The falling water from the fountain must be centered in the pond, away from the
shoreline.
d. The maximum horsepower for the fountain's pump is based on the permanent
pool volume. The maximum pump power for a fountain in this pond is 1/4
horsepower.
18. Access to the stormwater facilities for inspection and maintenance shall be maintained
via appropriate recorded easements at all times.
III. GENERAL CONDITIONS
1. This permit is not transferable to any person or entity except after notice to and
approval by the Director. The permittee shall submit a completed and signed
Name/Ownership Change Form, accompanied by the supporting documentation as
listed on the form, to the Division at least 60 days prior to any one or more of the
following events:
a. An. ownership change including the sale or conveyance of the project area in
whole or in part, except in the case of an individual lot sale that is made subject to
the recorded deed restrictions;
b. The sale or conveyance of the common areas to a Homeowner's or Property
Owner's Association, subject to the requirements of Session Law 2011-256;
c. Bankruptcy;
d. Foreclosure;
e. Dissolution of the partnership or corporate entity;
f. A name change of the current permittee;
g. A name change of the project;
h. A mailing address change of the permittee;
2. The permittee is responsible for compliance with all permit conditions until such time
as the Division approves the transfer request. Neither the sale of the project, in whole
or in part, nor the conveyance of common area to a third party constitutes an approved
transfer of the stormwater permit.
3. Any individual or entity found to be in noncompliance with the provisions of a
stormwater management permit or the Stormwater rules is subject to enforcement
procedures as set forth in NCGS 143 Article 21.
4. The issuance of this permit does not preclude the Permittee from complying with any
and all statutes, rules, regulations, or ordinances, which may be imposed by other
government agencies (local, state, and federal) having jurisdiction.
5. In the event that the facilities fail to perform satisfactorily the Permittee shall take
immediate corrective action, including those as may be required by this Division, such
as the construction of additional or replacement stormwater management systems.
Additional or replacement stormwater management systems shall receive a permit
from the Division prior to construction.
6. The permittee grants DEMLR Staff permission to enter the property during normal
business hours for the purpose of inspecting all components of the permitted
stormwater management facility.
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Permit No. SW8 020502
7. The permit issued shall continue in force and effect until modified, revoked, terminated
or renewed. The permit may be modified, revoked and reissued or terminated for
cause. The filing of a request for a permit modification, revocation and re -issuance or
termination does not stay any permit condition.
8. A copy of the approved plans and specifications shall be maintained on file by the
Permittee for a minimum of ten years from the date of the completion of construction.
9. Unless specified elsewhere, permanent seeding requirements for the stormwater
control measure must follow the guidelines established in the North Carolina Erosion
and Sediment Control Planning and Design Manual.
10. The issuance of this permit does not prohibit the Director from reopening and
modifying the permit, revoking and reissuing the permit, or terminating the permit as
allowed by the laws, rules and regulations contained in Session Law 2006-246, Title
15A NCAC 2H.1000, and NCGS 143-215.1 et.al.
11. The permittee shall submit a permit renewal application request at least 180 days prior
to the expiration date of this permit. The renewal request must include the appropriate
application, documentation and the processing fee.
Permit renewed and reissued this the 20t" day of February 2018
NORTH CAROLINA ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT COMMISSION
,�illia (Toby) on, Jr., PE, CPESC, CPM, Interim Director
Division o Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
By Authority of the Environmental Management Commission
Permit Number SW8 020502
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Permit No. SW8 020502
Master Permit No. SW8 020502
Lot # from
Offsite Permit
Date Issued
Offsite Project Name
Allocated
Proposed
Master Permit
No.
BUA
BUA
Lot 1A
SW8 070121
Lot 1A Randy Schilsky & Suezen
43,746
43,746
Division — Dr. Shaine Covert
Lot 2
52,925
Lot 1
58,160
Lot 3
SW8 101017
3/10/2011
Browning & White Building
47,644
47,644
Offsite Area
SW8 000937
TBD
First Citizens Bank, 2555
60,755
60,755
Western Blvd
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Schilsky Chiropractic Center
Stormwater Permit No. SW8 020502
Onslow County
Designer's Certification
State Stormwater Management Systems
Permit No. SW8 020502
Page 1 of 2
I, , as a duly registered in the
State of North Carolina, having been authorized to observe (periodically/weekly/full time) the
construction of the project,
(Project)
for (Project Owner) hereby state that, to the best
of my abilities, due care and diligence was used in the observation of the project construction
such that the construction was observed to be built within substantial compliance and intent
of the approved plans and specifications.
The checklist of items on page 2 of this form is a part of this Certification.
Noted deviations from approved plans and specifications:
Signature
Registration Number
Date
SEAL
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Permit No. SW8 020502
Certification Requirements: Page 2 of 2
1. The drainage area to the system contains approximately the permitted acreage.
2. The drainage area to the system contains no more than the permitted amount
of built -upon area.
3. All the built -upon area associated with the project is graded such that the runoff
drains to the system.
4. All roof drains are located such that the runoff is directed into the system.
5. The outlet/bypass structure elevations are per the approved plan.
6. The outlet structure is located per the approved plans.
7. Trash rack is provided on the outlet/bypass structure.
8. All slopes are grassed with permanent vegetation.
9. Vegetated slopes are no steeper than 3:1.
10. The inlets are located per the approved plans and do not cause short-circuiting
of the system.
11. The permitted amounts of surface area and/or volume have been provided.
12. Required drawdown devices are correctly sized per the approved plans.
13. All required design depths are provided.
14. All required parts of the system are provided, such as a vegetated shelf, a
forebay, and the vegetated filter.
15. The required dimensions of the system are provided, per the approved plan.
16. All components of the stormwater BMP are located in either recorded common
areas, or recorded easements.
cc: NCDEQ-DEMLR Regional Office
Onlsow County Building Inspections
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Casmer, Jo
From: Casmer, Jo
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 201812:02 PM
To: '[e-mail]'
Subject: Schilsky Chiropractic Center, Stormwater Permit SW8 020502
The Wilmington Regional Office of the Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources (Stormwater Section)
accepted the Stormwater Permit Renewal Application and $505.00 fee on January 18, 2018. The project has been
assigned to Kelly Johnson and you will be notified if additional information is needed.
Jo Casmer
Administrative Assistant for DEMLR/Stormwater Section
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Department of Environmental Assistance & Customer Service
910 796-7336 office
910 350-2004 fax
0o.casmerOncdenr.gov
127 Cardinal Drive Extension
Wilmington, NC 28405
Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the
North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.

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Hall, Christine
From:
Sent:
To:
Hall, Christine
Tuesday, November 14, 2017 3:21 PM
'David Newsom; 'Pat Donovan -Potts'
Cc: 'Betty Bullock'
Subject: RE: [External] Schilsky's has applied for a new permit with us
Sounds good. Please let me know if you have more questions.
Christine Hall
Environmental Engineer
Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources — State Stormwater Program
Department of Environmental Quality
910 796 7215 office
910 796 7335 direct
[e-mail]
127 Cardinal Drive Ext.
Wilmington, NC 28405
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From: David Newsom[mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 1:03 PM
To: Hall, Christine<Christine. [e-mail]>; 'Pat Donovan-Potts'<[e-mail]>
Cc: 'Betty Bullock' <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] Schilsky's has applied for a new permit with us
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Christine,
Upon further review, I believe you are correct. I had forgotten about the other permit (i.e. the existing Covert State
permit).
agree with the "one less permitting action" option as you specify below.
am preparing the forms on that basis.
So in short ..... going that route..... it appears all the permitting actions will be by State.... instead of both City and State.
Yes....a lot of paperwork....but I think "cleaner" to go that route.

From: Hall, Christine .(mailto:Christine. [e-mail]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 8:39 AM
To: David Newsom <[e-mail]>; 'Pat Donovan -Potts' <pdonovan-potts@iac.,'�:sori�,ill;' .-. Yov>
Cc: Betty Bullock <BettyB@*Ipnc.com>
Subject: RE: [External] Schilsky's has applied for a new permit with us
David,
You are on the right track and make some good points. You are correct that a modification to SW8 020502 could be
submitted (once it has been renewed) to remove Lot 1B from the pond drainage area thus freeing up slightly more
BUA. However, that does not resolve the fact that Lot 1B is still part of the permitted area under SW8 070121. SW8
070121 would have to be transferred (to get the permit in the correct owner's name) and then modified to either:
1. remove Lot 1B from the project area. This would then allow the City to permit Lot 113; or
2. include the proposed development and SCM as a combo offsite/HD permit. (one less permitting action)
The path selected will ultimately depend on how many permits your clients would like to keep up with and if they plan
on selling either tract in the future. In the meantime, I would recommend getting the renewal of SW8 020502 and
transfer of SW8 070121 in here ASAP to get those balls rolling.
Christine Hall
Environmental Engineer
Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources — State Stormwater Program
Department of Environmental Quality
910 796 7215 office
910 796 7335 direct
c:hristine.hall(a..ncdenr.gov
127 Cardinal Drive Ext.
Wilmington, NC 28405
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From: David Newsom [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 3:17 PM
To: 'Pat .Donovan-Potts'<pdonova [e-mail]>; Hall, Christine <Christine.Hal [e-mail]>
Cc: Betty Bullock <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] Schilsky's has applied for a new permit with us
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I have read the below emails.....and certainly understand the points made by both.
But .... that said .... please consider this.

When we modified SW8 020502 recently to account for the First Citizens Bank "issue ....... I think we took advantage of
any inherent "oversizing" in the SW8 020502 pond.....and as a result .... I do not think that pond could accept the
additional BUA associated with this project (Covert Operations) without an expensive retrofit to the pond.
That was the very reason I designed the current project (Covert Operations) to drain to Western Blvd right of way (via
the now abandoned First Citizens outfall pipe)... instead of the SW8 020502 pond.
That being the case..... it would seem to make more sense for me to simply now modify SW8 020502 to EXCLUDE the
new Covert Site drainage area from the pond drainage area (and in doing so perhaps create some unused capacity for
some other unforeseen future use in the pond) ...... and let the new Covert permit be a stand alone permit (i.e. not an
offsite permit to SW8 020502).
If this project (Covert Operations) is, by virtue of the above suggested modification, outside of the pond drainage
area...... would it not then fall under the City's permitting authority?
That sure seems like a simpler permitting scenario from my viewpoint..... if acceptable to you folks. Frankly .... I'm not
sure I know how to prepare the permit applications for the new project any other way....at least ... that is .... as it is
currently designed.
Please consider and advise and I will prepare the permit applications as necessary.
From: Pat Donovan -Potts [ME iIto: pdo nova [e-mail]]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 9:40 AM
To: Betty Bullock ([e-mail]) <[e-mail]>;'Dave Newsom' <[e-mail]>
Cc: '[e-mail]' <del hibuilders 'yahoo.com>
Subject: FW: [External] Schilsky's has applied for a new permit with us
Good morning
Please read below.
WE are not allowed to review the stormwater permit for this site, reasons why is stated below.
It needs to go to the state.
!ohn
I can drop off all the paperwork and the check back to you.
I had not turned that in yet.
Nick
Please remember do not put any BUA down on that site until you have your stormwater permit.
Sorry everyone.
PAT DONOV -PUTTfi
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From: Hall, Christine[mailto:Christine.Hall @ncdenr.gov]
Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 9:25 AM
To: Pat Donovan -Potts <�donova n- Potts @ iacksonvillenc.�ov_>
Cc: Lewis,Linda <[e-mail]>; Scott, Georgette <[e-mail]_v>
Subject: RE: [External] Schilsky's has applied for a new permit with us
Pat,
I had the chance to look into this proposed project. The area in question is part of Lot 1-A, which was issued Permit No.
SW8 070121 (attached) and is approved to drain to SW8 020502 (also attached, note that SW8 020502 expired 10/16/16
and needs to be renewed). In comparing our approved plans with the Onslow County GIS website, approved Lot 1A has
been subdivided into Lots 1A and 1B. Additionally, the ownership of both lots (1A and 113) appears to have changed to
Covert Operations of Jacksonville, LLC. In looking at these permits, the consultant appears to be right that there is no
additional BUA allocated to the approved Lot 1A (combined 1A and 113). However, I didn't look to see if the approved
pond was oversized and could fit more BUA.
Since the area in question is already covered by state permits, they will need to submit to the state to address the
expired permit, the additional subdivision, and the change in ownership before any proposed work can be approved.
Christine Hall
Environmental Engineer
Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources — State Stormwater Program
Department of Environmental Quality
910 796 7215 office
910 796 7335 direct
cl?ristine. hall(Dncdenr.go v
127 Cardinal Drive Ext.
Wilmington, NC 28405
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From: Pat Donovan-Potts[mailto:pdonovan-!?[e-mail]]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 9:04 AM
To: Lewis,Linda <[e-mail]>; Hall, Christine <[e-mail]>
Subject: [External] Schilsky's has applied for a new permit with us
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Good morning
I have a stormwater permit submittal from Dave Newsome and John Pierce for a lot over in Schilsky's office park.
He told us there is no more room in the existing ponds permitting with DEQ.

Attached is your permit for the overall location.
WE also scanned in the stormwater page or site plan to show the location.
What we want to know from you is, can we permit this site?
Before we go thru the permit review, I want to make sure we can do this.
Can you please take a look and advise us?
Thank you.
PAT DONO AN -POT TS
STORWATERMANA(UKR
PO BOX 12$
815 NEW BRIMS STPXET
JAGS( MLLE,, NC
910-938-6446