20071823 Ver 1_Meeting Minutes_20050817

Subject:
Team Members:
Minutes from Interagency 4B Hydraulic Design Review Meeting
on August 17, 2005 for R -2502B in Richmond/Moore Counties
Richard Spencer -USACE
(present)
Brian Wrenn - NCDWQ
(present)
Polly Lespinasse - NCDWQ
(present)
Travis Wilson -NCWRC *
(absent)
Gary Jordan -USFWS
(present)
Chris Militscher -EPA
(present)
Rachelle Beaugard —NEU
(present)
Jay McInnis -PDEA
(absent)
* Notified by email
413- Was held on February 18, 2004
Participants:
Marshall Clawson, NCDOT Hydraulics
Dan Duffield, NCDOT Hydraulics
David Scheffel, NCDOT Design Services Design
Roy Currin, HSMM
Mark Staley, Roadside Environmental
John Olinger, Division 8
Art King, Division 8
Vang Woua, Utilities
Marshall (MC) — Introduction and started the permit review
MC - Site 1
Chris Militscher (CM) — Have these plans changed from the 413?
Roy Currin (RC) — Yes, the last 113 of the project has been narrowed, starting at sheet 12
Mark Staley (MS) — Need to add some mechanized clearing for erosion control to all sites.
MC — Site 2 and 3
MC - Site 2 and 3 one are on the left and on the right, overview
CM — Is this a forebay or what?
MC — explanation
CM - Where these looked at for ground water elevations? Did we find this out before the
design?
RC- Yes, we redesigned due to the ground water

Richard Spencer (RS) Can we put in a liner?
MC — Yes
Brian Wrenn (BW) — A clay liner is better suited
Site 3 — Continue — overview
Site 4 — Continue —overview
Site 5 — Continue — overview
Site 6 — Continue — overview
CM -- Sta 435 +00 is this a wetland?
MC and RC — No these are actually a high areas
John Olinger (JO) -- How are we going to maintain these Hazardous Spill Basin?
David Scheffel (DS) — We can put a break in the guard rail.
RS — There is an existing pipe, what are we doing with it?
RC — We are replacing it with a new cross pipe
MC -- There is a conflict box that keeps the water separate
Vang Woua (VW) — 8" Duct Iron Pipe we will need to relocate it
CM — Is this utility addition impacts?
VW—No
MC — Next site which is the Bridge
We'll fix the plans to show the bents as they are missing, both proposed and existing.
JO — Can we get the permit to show Hand Clearing?
RS — This is not my call, I'm fine with hand cleared
MC — We'll show HC to the RIW
BW — Any impact due to the bridge, such as fill, causeway, etc?

MC—No
BW -- No excavation?
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Discussion on drive way shown at matchline on sheet 14
RC — This is control of access
RS — Is this bridge going to be drilled shaft?
MC — We'll get up with structures
RS — Is there anyway we can get these lines off the plan view? It looks like pipes leaving the
bridge.
RC — We'll try
BW — Could we enter the Hazardous Spill basin differently?
MC — Well if we move the pipe we will be bucking the grade, how about we move the
Hazardous Spill basin outlet away from the outlet of the pipe to allow for some
reaction time to shut the gate
RS — Make sure you count the PDE as impacted area as they usually completely clear it
Meeting Adjourned