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RE: Nov 16
Subject: RE: Nov 16
From: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 09:29:51 -0500
To: <[e-mail]>
Cyndi,
i hope you have today (friday) off... and i hope you are actually not
working also... and i hope the earliest you see this is monday!!!
anyway, never heard back from you on my ideas for Shiloh Crossing
(below)... or my conflicts for the proposed meeting date... if that will
work i think we figured out that project...
but, of course, since then we have another one with the same issue (see
attached)... [i think you are familiar with this one for an issue with
the buffers... anyway, i go on...] This one includes a partial retrofit
of an existing pond... Again, the issue is the same as with Shiloh
Crossing... i.e. we proposed ponds followed by a level spreader
discharging to a forested filter strip designed per the DWQ Level („}~ ~~14 ~~
Spreader Design Guidance (which i gather is not acceptable now) as ~ ',~ ~ ///
opposed to designed to the Stormwater Manual... ~[ ~~, S-tr'.
Anyway... GC 3402 states: J
"Alternative designs may be requested by the applicant and will be
reviewed on a case-by case
basis by the Division of Water Quality." (- _~
As such, in this case, i would propose that ponds designed to the DWQ ~f v v
Level Spreader Design Guidance be considered as effective as ponds ~ ~~
followed by forested filter strips that are designed to the Stormwater
BMP Manual... ~~~ ~~ P/'v
i am sorry i cannot meet on the 16th... maybe we can take care of both
projects at one time? ... 1 _ ~,!r~ "r G,~ ~ ~ t~
sorry for creating more hassles,
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Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 3:00 PM ,^
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i will be down in Beaufort County that whole day... sorry... i can ~ ~ ~ ~~~ ~
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i am not sure if this would pre-empt the need for an onsite meeting... ,~ ~'~
but if we can find a way to get the conditional 401 and Buffer Approval
without getting involved in policy or guidance development that would be
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RE: Nov 16
better for us... let me know what you think and hopefully we can find a
way to go forward from here!
btw - totally off subject... we just got another dog (yes, we are nuts
and stupid!)... she looks to be a cattle dog like dingo. she is
supposedly about 2 years old... she was "rescued" from an animal control
facility in SC from what i gather... hopefully, dingo will help train
her...
thanks for your help on this!
todd
-----Original Message-----
From: Cyndi Karoly [mailto:cyndi.karolyCncmail.net]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:06 PM
To: St John, Todd
Subject: Nov 16
I'd sent you a message last Tuesday, but I must have accidentally sent
it to your old email address. Sorry. How is Thu, Nov 16 at 2pm
onsite? Cynthia and Boyd will be along. It should be a good
conversation to have.
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RE: Nov 16
Subject: RE: Nov 16
From: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 15:00:21 -0500
To: <[e-mail]>
Cyndi,
i will be down in Beaufort County that whole day... sorry... i can
arrange for someone else to be there with you if you need to go that
day...
nevertheless, i want to try to avoid having this particular project get
caught up in the development or re-development of guidance or policy on
forested filter strips... (Although i am more than willing to get
involved in general if you'd like...) so i just sat down with the
project manager and talked him into another approach (even though it may
cost a little more and cause additional head-aches in dealing with the
City of Durham)... anyway...
we are going to look at making the two largest ponds (on the Durham or
north side) into extended detention wetlands so we don't need a filter
strip or level spreader. However, we would like to propose that the
three smaller ponds (on the south side) be directed to existing wetlands
to keep the wetlands hydrated; however, the use of three smaller ponds
in this manner will require a case-by-case exception from the normal
requirements of GC 3402 since ponds followed by natural wetlands is not
a specific option... My reading is that GC 3402 does allow for the
case-by-case approval of stormwater management plans in such cases...
i am not sure if this would pre-empt the need for an onsite meeting...
but if we can find a way to get the conditional 401 and Buffer Approval
without getting involved in policy or guidance development that would be
better for us... let me know what you think and hopefully we can find a
way to go forward from here!
btw - totally off subject... we
and stupid!)... she looks to be
supposedly about 2 years old...
facility in SC from what i gath~
her...
just got another dog (yes, we are nuts
a cattle dog like dingo. she is
she was "rescued" from an animal control
=_r... hopefully, dingo will help train
thanks for your help on this!
todd
-----Original Message-----
From: Cyndi Karoly [mailto:cyndi.karoly~ncmail.net]
---
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:06 PM
To: St John, Todd
Subject: Nov 16
I'd sent you a message last Tuesday, but I must have accidentally sent
it to your old email address. Sorry. How is Thu, Nov 16 at 2pm
onsite? Cynthia and Boyd will be along. It should be a good
conversation to have.
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~OF W A TFnQ Michael F. Easley, Governor
,`~ ITT (~i William G. Ross Jr., Secretary
~ ~- North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources
C3 ~~ ° - ~i ~ Alan W. Klimek, P.E. Director
- ~ - r Division of Water Quality
November 9, 2006
DWQ Project # 06-1742
Wake County
CERTIFIED MAIL: RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED
Mr. Bo Cook
HH Hunt
117 Edinburgh Drive, Suite 100
Cary, NC 27511
Subject Property: Ashton Village
Ut to White Oak Creek [030402, 27-43-11, C, NSW]
REQUEST FOR MORE INFORMATION
Dear Mr. Cook:
On November 3, 2006, the Division of Water Quality (DWQ) received your application dated
November 3, 2006, to impact 0.152 acres of wetland, 290 linear feet of intermittent stream, and
2,154 square feet of Zone 2 protected Neuse River basin riparian buffer to construct the proposed
residential development. The DWQ has determined that your application was incomplete and/or
provided inaccurate information as discussed below. The DWQ will require additional
information in order to process your application to impact protected wetlands and/or streams on
the subject property. Therefore, unless we receive five copies of the additional information
requested below, we will have to move toward denial of your application as required by 15A
NCAC 2H .0506 and will place this project on hold as incomplete until we receive this additional
information. Please provide the following information so that we may continue to review your
project.
Additional Information Requested:
1. Please resubmit your plans on full plan sheets
2. Please be aware that the existing stormwater basin and proposed wet detention basins and
level spreader BMPs will need to be redesigned as constructed wetlands, or wet ponds
followed by a forested filter strips and level spreaders per GC 3402.
3. Please provide detail for the stormwater management practices referenced above as
required by GC3402.
401 Oversight/Express Review Permitting Unit
1650 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, North Carolina 27699-1650
2321 Crabtree Boulevard, Suite 250, Raleigh, North Carolina 27604
Phone: [phone] /FAX [phone] /Internet: http. "h2i~ cnr state,,.r1~ u5~'ncwctlan~5
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4. Please provide a signed and notarized Operations and Maintenance Agreement and all
necessary worksheets for the stormwater management practices referenced above as
required by GC3402.
Please respond within three weeks of the date of this letter by sending this information to me in
writing and Eric Kulz of the DWQ Raleigh Regional Office. If we do not hear from you within
three weeks, we will assume that you no longer want to pursue this project and we will consider
the project as withdrawn.
This letter only addresses the application review and does not authorize any impacts to wetlands,
waters or protected buffers. Please be aware that any impacts requested within your application
are not authorized (at this time) by the DWQ. Please call Ms. Cyndi Karoly or Mr. Ian
McMillan at 919-733-1786 if you have any questions regarding or would like to set up a meeting
to discuss this matter.
Sincerely,
Cyndi Karoly, Supervisor
401 Oversight/Express Review Permitting Unit
CBK/ijm
cc: Eric Kulz, DWQ Raleigh Regional Office
USACE Raleigh Regulatory Field Office
File Copy
Central Files
Todd Tugwell, Kimley-Horn and Associates, Inc., P.O. Box 33068, Raleigh, NC 27636-3068
Filename: 061742AshtonV illage(W ake)On_Hold

Burlington-Alamance Regional Airport DWQ OS-1711
Subject: Burlington-Alamance Regional Airport DWQ OS-1711
From: "Eric Stumph" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:30:14 -0500
To: "Cyndi Karoly" <[e-mail]>
11 /6/2006
Burlington-Alamance Regional Airport
Runway 6-24 Extension
Cyndi:
On or about September 1, 2006, the Stormwater Management Plan required by Water Quality Certification
#3553 (DWQ #05-1711) was submitted to your office.
We are updating project status for the Airport Authority.
What is the status of review/approval of the Plan?
Also, please advise as to the fee required to move the Plan into the Express Review process, as well as
the relative time frame for review (express vs standard processing).
Thanks.
Eric M. Stumph, P.E.
Talbert & Bright, Inc.
4810 Shelley Drive
Wilmington NC 28405
Tel. [phone]
Fax [phone]
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