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Strickland, Bev
From: Tinklenberg, Chris <[e-mail]>
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To: Johnson, Alan
Cc: Roden Reynolds, Bryan K CIV (USA); Perez, Douglas J; Day, Blake
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Savona DWR # 20-1685, SAW 2020-02248
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Hey Alan! Got some time today to discuss?
Thanks,
Chris
Chris Tinklenberg, PWS
Kimley-Horn 1200 South Tryon Street, Suite 200, Charlotte, NC 28202
Direct: 704 409 1802 I Mobile: [phone]
From: Tinklenberg, Chris
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 9:06 AM
To: Johnson, Alan <[e-mail]>
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<[e-mail]>; Day, Blake <[e-mail]>
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Hey Alan — do you have some time today either between 2 and 3 or after 4 to jump on a quick call with me and the
engineer? Overall this is a very complicated site and Blake can address many of your questions in much more detail than
I can.
Thanks,
Chris
Chris Tinklenberg, PWS
Kimley-Horn 1200 South Tryon Street, Suite 200, Charlotte, NC 28202
Direct: 704 409 1802 I Mobile: [phone]
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Subject: RE: [External] RE: Savona DWR # 20-1685, SAW 2020-02248
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1) The stream is there, so that should go into the process of deliberating whether a project
is viable or not with the area of concern. I find it hard to believe that one building
affects the entire project. Profit depends on one building.
2) It is approximately a 1.5 acre area, mostly covered in parking and also reduced by
setbacks. The total site is approx. 28 acres. Hard to see how avoidance and
minimization is being met or being considered.
3) The stream still handles runoff and discharge and rather than runoff be collected in a
"sterile" pipe and move downstream, some remediation is possible
4) The site is already level, I am not sure how this area is needed other than a place for fill
dirt
5) Low quality stream is better than no stream. Like low quality housing is better than no
housing. Being a bit snarky, but the point is, it is still a natural feature and continuing to
fill, and the reason is low quality/function is not a strong reason. Piping a stream still has
an impact on the stream.
6) Maybe the city will give a variance on building height? To allow more floors for retail
and housing?
7) Are they collecting upgrading runoff (that the channel handles) and treating it?
Alan
DWR
DEvksEon of Water Resources
Alan D Johnson — Senior Environmental Specialist
NC Dept. of Environment & Natural Resources (NCDENR)
Division of Water Resources - Water Quality Regional Operations
610 East Center Ave., Suite 301, Mooresville, NC 28115
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Hey Alan — in case you missed our correspondence with WRC, I've attached it for reference. Our response discusses
parking including our rezoning request to minimize the required parking for the residential piece from 1:1 to 0.6:1. The
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thought is that parking can be shared by both the full-time residence as well as daily patrons of the Mill. This keeps us
completely out of the 100-ft buffer of Stewart Creek and provides the necessary area for the riparian buffer
enhancement and preservation. The parcel immediately to the east of your recommended building location is not part
of this development, so the building would have to be fully within the triangular area, immediately adjacent to Stewart
Creek and within the 100-ft buffer. This would also require additional buffer impacts for infrastructure, i.e. parking, on -
site roadway connections, utilities which just wouldn't work given there's only 50-ft between Stewart Creek and the
adjacent un-owned parcel (see snip below). Additionally, this is area is 5-ft below the base flood elevation.
Avoiding the impact by eliminating the building and associated parking would kill the site financially, both from an
engineering/earthwork balance perspective as well as the loss of units for the developer to sell. Please keep in mind,
that while the stream conveys perennial flow, most of the drainage originates from urban runoff and is discharged into
the storm sewer system where it's daylighted for a short section above Turner Avenue and in this particular area in the
northeastern corner of the site. The riparian area is almost exclusively made up of invasive species. From a
quality/functional standpoint, stream function is extremely low.
Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.
Thanks,
Chris
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Chris Tinklenberg, PWS
Kimley-Horn 1200 South Tryon Street, Suite 200, Charlotte, NC 28202
Direct: 704 409 1802 I Mobile: [phone]
From: Johnson, Alan <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 8:49 AM
To: Tinklenberg, Chris <[e-mail]>
Cc: Roden Reynolds, Bryan K CIV (USA) <[e-mail]>
Subject: Savona DWR # 20-1685, SAW 2020-02248
I am concerned that no consideration was given to avoidance and minimization. It appears
that RES 0-1A could easily be moved to the other side of the project area (and associated
parking) or omitted altogether to prevent the ongoing loss of a perennial channel. Much of
the project appears to be made up of parking. Minor reduction is building sq footage could
easily reduce the parking required in this area as well. Part of redevelopment, should include
the redevelopment of natural areas.
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DWR
Division of Water Resources
Alan D Johnson — Senior Environmental Specialist
NC Dept. of Environment & Natural Resources (NCDENR)
Division of Water Resources - Water Quality Regional Operations
610 East Center Ave., Suite 301, Mooresville, NC 28115
Phone: [phone] Fax: [phone]
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