20210434 Ver 1_More Info Requested_20210610

Strickland, Bev
From: Bodnar, Gregg
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 10:46 AM
To: [e-mail]; Humphrey, Jeremy; Dail, Jason; Snider, Holley
Cc: Haines, Andrew; MacPherson, Tara
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Marina rules and policy
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Morning Dana,
Please accept this as confirmation that the project has been placed on applicant hold as of today 6/10/21. I will send
out a doodle poll to determine dates today as well. FYI I am off next week on leave and am unable to meet June 23 and
24 due to interviews, so if you would like me to set up the meeting and host it will be the June 25th at the earliest. If this
is not acceptable and someone else if able please do.
Gregg
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Subject: RE: [External] RE: Marina rules and policy
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Gregg,
Would you please set up a WebEx meeting, to discuss this project, and include Holley Snider (DWR).
Also, please place the project on hold, until we resolve this matter.
Thanks a bunch,
Dana
Dana A. Lutheran
5outhem Environmental Group, inc.
55 15 South College Road, Suite E
Wilmington, NC 284I 2
Office: 9 10.452.27 I I
Mobile: [phone] I (preferred)
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From: Bodnar, Gregg <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 1:18 PM
To: [e-mail]; Humphrey, Jeremy <[e-mail]>; Dail, Jason <[e-mail]>
Cc: Haines, Andrew <[e-mail]>; MacPherson, Tara <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Marina rules and policy
Afternoon all,
I have some information available for reference as the closure issue is related to DCM. Depending on a determination
on such factors as the 50% repair/replace for the adjacent dock, it may require authorization other than a major permit
or not require any permitting from DCM. I do not believe a determination has been made concerning the adjacent dock
at this time or if one has even been requested. CRC rule defers to Shellfish on the determination of a shellfish closure
expansion and requires that proposals do not cause or increase a closure or be inconsistent with any federal, state or
local rules, laws, etc.
So DCM will defer to the determination of shellfish on whether the proposal is inconsistent with MFC rule. At this time
the project 75 day is 7/4/21 and there are still a number of agency comments outstanding. Any redesign that may be
forthcoming will have to be reviewed by resource agencies dependent on scope and scale of the changes, but at least
they will need to be notified of any revisions. This may include re -notification to adjacent property owners if
needed. So it is preferable that the project be placed on hold while these issues are coordinated to keep outstanding
agencies from commenting on a potentially outdated project. In addition a hold will stop the processing clock in the
event the project remains inconsistent with MFC rule at the time a final determination from DCM is required.
If useful I can set up a WebEx meeting to discuss the project with necessary resource agencies.
Gregg
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Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 4:44 PM
To: Humphrey, Jeremy <[e-mail]>; Dail, Jason <[e-mail]>; Bodnar, Gregg
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Hi, Jeremy.
I have included Gregg Bodnar, as he is the one processing the permit, in MHC.
I am available for a call, at any time.
Dana
Dana A. Lutheran
Southern Environmental Group, Inc.
5515 South College Koacl, Suite E
Wilmington, NC 28+1 2
Office: 9 i 0.452.27 I i
Mobile: [phone] i (preferred)
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From: Humphrey, Jeremy <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 20214:39 PM
To: Dana Lutheran <[e-mail]>; Dail, Jason <[e-mail]>
Cc: Haines, Andrew <[e-mail]>; MacPherson, Tara <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Marina rules and policy
The Dogwood (i.e., Sewre) dock is not operational at this time, and for it to be operational, it would require a
new CAMA Major. That being the case, the Dogwood facility would need to be designed to provide at least
100' of separation from the Hammock Watch facility and the maximum number of slips would be 9, which I
believe they have agreed to do. That being the case, would the DMF support the Hammock Watch facility, as
proposed today?
Dana
Hi Dana. I cannot answer your question with confidence, as there are aspects to this arrangement that would
need input from DCM. We really need to all discuss this project to arrive at a solution.
Thank you,
Jeremy
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Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 3:36 PM
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Jeremy,
I just received a request, from the DCM, to place my project on hold. I really don't want to do that. Can I get an
update on the status of the DMF's review of the project?
Dana
Dana A. Lutheran
5outhem Environmental Group, Inc.
55 i 5 South College Road, Suite E_
Wilmington, NC 2841 2
Office: 910.452.271 1
Mobile: 91 o.228.1 84I (preferred)
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Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 1:13 PM
To: 'Humphrey, Jeremy' <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Marina rules and policy
Hi, Jeremy.
Just curious, what details are you referring to, with regard to implementing two separate DCM Permits? At this
point, the only permit being sought is the Hammock Watch docking facility. When and if the Dogwood
community decides to move forward with securing a permit for their structure, it will be need to be designed
and reviewed based upon the conditions in place at that time. That could be years from now. Many things can
change.
With regard to other agency concerns, I have not been notified of any, to date.
I am not trying to be difficult here, but we are approaching the end of the DCM's 75 day review period and
would like to have this wrapped up sooner rather than later.
Thank you, for your time and assistance with this project. I look forward to hearing form you.
Dana
Dana A. Lutheran
5outhem Environmental Group, Inc.
55 i 5 South College }load, Suite E
Wilmington, NC 2841 2
Office: 910.452.271 1
Mobile: [phone] i (preferred)
www.5egi.u5
From: Humphrey, Jeremy <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 12:28 PM
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To: Dana Lutheran <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] RE: Marina rules and policy
Hi Dana. It appears that yes, in theory this arrangement would not trigger a shellfish closure. There are however details,
particularly when it comes to implementing two separate DCM permits. And of course, any concerns from the other
resource agencies. I will be consulting with DCM about this in the coming days.
Thank you,
Jeremy
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Jeremy,
The Dogwood (i.e., Sewre) dock is not operational at this time, and for it to be operational, it would require a
new CAMA Major. That being the case, the Dogwood facility would need to be designed to provide at least
100' of separation from the Hammock Watch facility and the maximum number of slips would be 9, which I
believe they have agreed to do. That being the case, would the DMF support the Hammock Watch facility, as
proposed today?
Dana
Dana A. Lutheran
Southern Environmental Group, Inc.
55 i 5 South College Road, Suite E
Wilmington, NC 2841 2
Office: 910.452.271 1
Mobile: [phone]I (preferred)
www.5egi.u5
From: Humphrey, Jeremy <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 2:39 PM
To: Dana Lutheran <[e-mail]>
Subject: Marina rules and policy
Hi Dana. I have attached the document that you requested. Within the pdf is also a weblink to the dockages section of
our rules. Cited below are two rules that pertain to the Hammock Watch circumstance. I hope that you find this
information useful. Please contact me should you have additional questions.
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(5) Areas, other than marinas, where boats are moored or docked may be considered on a case -by -case basis with
respect to sanitary significance relative to actual or potential contamination and classification shall be made as
necessary.
(6) The cumulative impacts of multiple marinas, entrance canals, or other mooring areas, in close proximity to each
other are expected to adversely affect public trust waters. When these situations occur the Division will recommend
closures exceeding those outlined in Item (3) of this Rule. The following guides will be used in determining close
proximity: (a) marina entrance canals within 225 feet of each other; (b) open system marinas within 450 feet of each
other (Mooring areas shall be considered open system marinas); (c) where closure areas meet or overlap; and (d) open
system marinas within 300 feet of a marina entrance canal
Thank you,
Jeremy
Jeremy Humphrey
Environmental Health Program Specialist
Division of Marine Fisheries — Shellfish Sanitation and Recreational Water Quality
Department of Environmental Quality
910.796.7367 office
[e-mail]
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Wilmington, NC 28405
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