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From: Karoly, Cyndi
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To: Strickland, Bev
Subject: FW: Martin- Marietta PH pictures
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From: Adams, Amy
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:51 PM
To: Rawls, Paul; Stecker, Kathy; Karoly, Cyndi; Massengale, Susan
Subject: Martin - Marietta PH pictures
Amy Adams
Regional Office Supervisor
Surface Water Protection Section
NC Division of Water Quality
Washington Regional Office
www.ncwatergualitV.org
252.946.6481
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"NEW" TRIPP ROAD BRIDGE OVER BLOUNTS CREEK
APPROXIMATELY 2 MILES FROM THE DISCHARGE POINTS OF THE QUARRY WATER
The creek is approximately 70 feet wide on the downstream side of the bridge.
The average depth is 4 1/2 feet on the downstream side of the bridge.
If you take a slice of the creek 1 foot thick (like a slice of bread) and use the measurements above,
the 1 foot slice of creek holds approximately 2360 gallons of water.
The draft NPDES permit allows for a discharge of 9,000,000 gallons of water each day
(375,000 gallons each hour or 6250 gallons each minute)
9,000,000 gallons of water would fill more than 13 olympic sized swimming pools
360 railroad tank cars each holding 25,000 gallons (average for US made railroad tank cars)
4MMndwn on proposed Vanceboro Quarry of Martin Marietta Materials
To: NC Division of Water Quality
From: James Coke, PhD in Chemistry, retired
Date: March 12, 2013
Subject: The inadequacy and flawed nature of CZR TechnicalMemorandum dated
October 30, 2012 and the unjustified conclusions reached in this
memorandum
General Comments:
Many of the CZR comments and conclusions are based on "freshwater fish" but the most
important fish in Blounts Creek for the recreational fishing community are diadromous
saltwater species including flounder, speckled trout, and striped bass. These are the ones
which will be most severely impacted by the large amount of freshwater injected into
Blounts Creek. In addition to this distortion, there are a number of species that are totally
missing from the impact discussion in the CZR report. Also, there are a number of
unjustifiable extrapolations of scientific studies which purport to support the permitting
of the MMM mine discharge when in fact they do not. Several studies actually contradict
the conclusions of CZR. Each of these will be discussed separately.
Speckled Trout:
One of the more sought out and prized game fish in Blounts Creek is the speckled trout
(Cynoscion nebulosus). Although CZR mentions these in the lists of regulated fish and
fish present in Blounts Creek, there is absolutely no mention of them in the discussion of
the environmental effect from mine discharge of large amounts of fresh water into
Blounts Creek.
Effects of pH Change:
The report indicates a change in the natural pH of 4.0 -5.5 up to pH of 6.3 -6.9 from the
mine discharge. This may not seem like much, but pH numbers are log or exponential
numbers. So a change of pH 4.0 to pH 7.0 represents a thousand fold decrease in acidity.
Even CZR admits pH levels are very important in regulating fish biochemical processes.
CZR tries to mitigate this effect by claiming the organic acids in the creek bed will buffer
the mine discharge pH down from the higher levels. This is very doubtful in a rapidly
moving stream of fresh water. There are a number of articles one can easily find in the
literature that point out that speckled trout tolerate a pH as low as 4.0 although they may
prefer slightly higher pH.
In any event, look at the attached pictures of healthy fish from Blounts Creek at pH 4.0-
5.5. They seem to be thriving. They represent reality, not conjecture (there are many
other pictures).
The CZR report concludes that raising the pH from 4.0 -5.5 to pH 6.3 -6.9 will provide a
"more diverse realm of freshwater species ", ignoring the fact that it would probably
destroy the more important saltwater species.
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Martin Marietta Materials, Inc has applied for state and federal
permits to develop a new 50 -year open pit marine limestone
mine in so.the. Beaufort County, cast of Vimecboro, within
the Blount Creek watershed. The company will impact 6.69
acres of weilands and 11 mild of jurisdictional waters. Up to
12 million gallons per day of Castle Haync groundwater and
normwater will be pumped from the open mine pit and
discharged into 2 locations in upper Mounts Creek. The
estimated dawdown for cone of depression) of the Castle
IHayne aquifer (Beaufort County's drinking water supply) is at
least 5 feet for up W 6 -7 milt' Impacting m many as 195 wells
hclorging in local families rind landowners. The mine is located
within the cone a depression of the Potmh Aumm pMSphine
mine.
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Martin Marietta was issued a mining permit from the UWision
of I." aeaourcea Permits are skill pending from the NC
Division of Water Quality for water and wellaml Impact and
for the wastewater discharg. A water withis=2 permlt t also
ladmA from the NC Division a Water Reso ,,, A public
hearing u scheduled for Thursday, March 14, 2013 at the
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the federal Clean Water Ad ¢quires tllal writ' the less Cmironmentalh Oxmq�u \q (Tactical
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Blount' Creek is a brackish creek (mix of sa
aquatic nursery area for numerous fish spe
Fisheries, Blounts Creek supports dense sut'
habitat for fish and other aquatic
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pH levels to swing up and down FP ee
product. This constant changing p
other aquatic species
For its application, Martin Marietta cc
time of year, then stated that no a hd'
should etc) were found en phew species are
in June or July
The land is being leased from Weyerl
be left at the end of the life of mine'
to Blount' creek once the wash
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