20120285_Gaston East-West Corridor Email_20120508 (2)

FW Gaston Turnpike
FW Gaston Turnpike
Lespinasse, Polly
Sent Tuesday May 08 2012 3 38 PM
To Carrillo Sonia
From Lespinasse, Polly
Sent Monday, April 30, 2012 2 57 PM
To Hair, Sarah E SAW
Subject Gaston Turnpike
Liz
Page 1 of 1
I have finished reviewing the application and have a question for you Page 15 of 17 in Attachment 8 states that
the NCTA and FHWA will work with the environmental resource and regulatory agencies during the permitting
phase to further refine the mitigation plan for the project How does that statement impact (if it does in fact
impact) the permit for this project? We usually know the mitigation plan when we issue the permit but this is
different
Thanks
Polly Lespinasse Polly Lespinasse @ncdenr gov
Environmental Senior Specialist
North Carolina Dept of Environment & Natural Resources
Div of Water Quality
610E Center Ave Suite 301
Mooresville NC 28115
Ph 704 235 2190 Fax [phone]
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FW Linwood Springs Jurisdictional Verification
FW Linwood Springs Jurisdictional Verification
Lespinasse, Polly
Sent Tuesday May 08 2012 3 37 PM
To , Carrillo Sonia
From Lespinasse, Polly
Sent Thursday, October 06, 20114 05 PM
To Gloden, Michael C
Cc Hair, Sarah E SAW
Subject Linwood Springs Jurisdictional Verification
Michael
Page 1 of 1
I dust spoke with Liz about stream S87 /W2(G101) Liz s recollection is that the upper reach (above the culvert)
was changed to a wetland but the lower reach remains a stream (it had a more defined channel than the upper
reach) If you change the map to reflect that and resubmit I will get my verification out to you If you have any
questions please let me know
Thanksl
Polly Lespinasse Polly Lespinasse @ncdenr gov
Environmental Senior Specialist
North Carolina Dept of Environment & Natural Resources
Div of Water Quality
610 E Center Ave Suite 301
Mooresville NC 28115
Ph 704 235 2190 Fax [phone]
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FW Gaston East West Connector Concurrence Point 4c Meeting Packet iPage 1 of 3
FW Gaston East -West Connector Concurrence Point 4c Meeting Packet
Lespinasse, Polly
Sent Tuesday May 08 2012 3 31 PM
To Carrillo Sonia
From Wrenn, Brian
Sent Tuesday August 09, 20118 39 AM
To Lespinasse, Polly
Subject RE Gaston East West Connector Concurrence Point 4c Meeting Packet
If we haven t seen it or had a chance to comment on it we will need to automatically put it on hold Those are
complex documents and we will need substantial time to look over it without the complication of reviewing the
401 app as well I will make that point in the meeting and urge them to provide the document to us for
comment prior to submitting the application
Brian Wrenn
Transportation Permitting Unit Supervisor
NC Division of Water Quality
brian wrenn @ncdenr gov
585 Waughtown Street
Winston Salem NC 27107 2241
336 7714952 (Winston Salem no )
336 771 4631 (Fax)
or
1650 Mail Service Center
Raleigh NC 27699 1650
919 807 6365
919 807 6494 (Fax)
From Lespinasse Polly
Sent Monday, August 08, 2011 12 58 PM
To Wrenn, Brian
Subject FW Gaston East West Connector Concurrence Point 4c Meeting Packet
Brian
Do you think it would be premature to submit a 401 application prior to receiving /reviewing /commenting on
this report? My understanding is that they are going to try to submit the 401/404 late August early September
Thanks
From Gurak, JIII S [mailto Jill Gurak@atklnsglobal com]
Sent Monday, August 08, 2011 12 41 PM
To Lespinasse, Polly
Cc Wrenn, Brian, Bass, Kiersten R, Harris, Jennifer Allen, Thomas B
Subject RE Gaston East West Connector Concurrence Point 4c Meeting Packet
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Polly
A draft water quality analysis currently is under review by NCDOT and FHWA Brad Allen in our office is leading
this effort We hope to have a revised draft report back to NCTA shortly after receiving comments
JIII
Jill Gurak, PE AICP
Project Director Transportation
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From Lespinasse, Polly [mailto polly lespinasse @ncdenr gov]
Sent Monday, August 08, 2011 11 27 AM
To Gurak, JIII S
Cc Wrenn, Brian
Subject RE Gaston East West Connector Concurrence Point 4c Meeting Packet
JIII
Can you tell me the status of the water quality analysis for this project? I know that Brian and I met with some
folks last year regarding DWQ s requirements but I don t recall seeing anything about it since then If I have
missed it could you please forward another copy to me when you get a moment?
Thanksl
From Jill gurak @atkinsglobal com [mallto Jill gurak @atkinsglobal com]
Sent Friday, August 05 2011 5 21 PM
To sarah a hair @usace army mil, george hoops @dot gov, militscher chris @epa gov, marella_buncick @fws gov
Chambers, Marla J, Lespinasse, Polly, Gledhill earley Renee, scott c mclendon @usace army mil,
monte k matthews @usace army mil, Wrenn, Brian Holder, Michael L, Moose, Barry S, Chang, David S, Clawson,
Marshall W Rochelle Rodger D, Taylor, Bryan D, Houser, Anthony A
Cc Harris, Jennifer, Sweitzer, Shannon, Dewitt, Steve, Jabyrd @hntb com, Bass, Kiersten R,
ronald ferrell @atkinsglobal com david bass @atkinsglobal com, progers @hntb com, Shumate, Christy
Subject Gaston East West Connector Concurrence Point 4c Meeting Packet
All
Please find attached materials for the upcoming CP4c meeting for the Gaston East West Connector
scheduled for Thursday August 11 at 10 00 am
Attached are minutes from the CP 4b meeting (6/9/11) the CP4b field review meeting (7/15/11), a
meeting agenda meeting handout, preferred alternative map jurisdictional site overview maps (Fig 7)
impact summary tables, and the permit drawings
Hard copies will be available at the meeting If you require a hard copy prior to the meeting, please let
me know and we will send one out to you
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Sincerely,
Jill Gurak
File(s) will be available for download until 10 August 2011
File
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Gaston 071511_ Summary_ Minutes pdf 173 43 KB
File
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_F>eldV>s>t_CP4b_
Gaston _TEACMt;_CP4b_ 060911_ Minutes Final pdf 60 05 KB
File
02
Gaston _CP4cMtg Agenda_081111 pdf 88 69 KB
File
02_Gaston_CP4cMtg
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Handout_081111 pdf 106 35 KB
File
03
_Figure 7 16_7 22_ Jurisdictional Detail pdf, 19 451 85 KB
File
03
PreferredAlternativeMap pdf 424 20 KB
File
04—Buffer
Impact Summary _pdf 40 68 KB
File
04
Wetland Impact Summary_pdf 6198 KB
File
05_U3321—Permit
Drawings-2011 08 05 pdf 33 560 47 KB
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FW Gaston application
FW Gaston application
Lespinasse, Polly
Sent Tuesday May 08 2012 3 30 PM
To Carrillo Sonia
From Wrenn, Brian
Sent Thursday, August 18, 20119 47 AM
To Lespinasse, Polly
Subject Gaston application
Page 1 of 1
FYI I spoke to Cyndi about my comments regarding submittal of the application after the design build team has
gotten final design She supported us and feels like Matt will as well She understands the financial pressures
but felt like we are making the right call We II continue on the path until told to change our position Thanks
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Brian Wrenn
Transportation Permitting Unit NCDWQ
1650 Mail Service Center
Raleigh NC 27699 1650
919 807 6365 (phone)
919 807 6492 (fax)
or
585 Waughtown St
Winston Salem NC 27107
336 771 4952 (phone)
336 771 4631 (fax)
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FW Gaston E W connector application
FW Gaston E -W connector application
Lespinasse, Polly
Sent Tuesday May 08 2012 3 30 PM
To Carrillo Sonia
From Wrenn, Brian
Sent Wednesday, November 16, 20119 27 AM
To Harris, Jennifer, Dewitt, Steve Monte Matthews
Cc Lespinasse, Polly, Karoly, Cyndi
Subject Gaston E W connector application
Page 1 of 1
Based on recent discussions within our agency NCDWQ will accept the Gaston E W connector 401 application
currently proposed by NCTA We would still like to meet on 11/22 to discuss modification coordination once the
Design Build team has been chosen This I think can be handled by project team staff from our respective
agencies and does not need to include management Of course they are welcome to participate but I sure
other commitments will take priority If you have any questions regarding this matter please let me know
Thanks
Brian
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Brian Wrenn
Transportation Permitting Unit NCDWQ
1650 Mail Service Center
Raleigh NC 27699 1650
919 807 6365 (phone)
919 807 6492 (fax)
or
585 Waughtown St
Winston Salem NC 27107
336 771 4952 (phone)
336 771 4631 (fax)
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FW Gaston East West Connector application
FW Gaston East -West Connector application
Lespinasse, Polly
Sent Tuesday May 08 2012 3 20 PM
To Carrillo Sonia
From Ferrell, Ronald E [mallto Ronald Ferrel l @atklnsglobal com]
Sent Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4 17 PM
To Wrenn, Brian
Cc Lespinasse, Polly
Subject Gaston East West Connector application
Page 1 of 1
Brian
The NCTA is ready to submit the application for the 401 WQC for the Gaston East West Connector would you
like copies mailed directly to you and Polly or would you prefer that all 5 copies be delivered to the Wetlands
and Stormwater Branch in Raleigh? If copies are mailed directly to you and Polly how many copies do I deliver
to the Wetlands and Stormwater Branch I did provide Marla Chambers WRC with a copy today at the Monroe
4B meeting
Thanks for your assistance
Ron Ferrell
Senior Scientist Mid Atlantic Sciences
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FW Gaston E W Connector (U 3321) Project Update
FW Gaston E -W Connector (U -3321) Project Update
Lespinasse, Polly
Sent Tuesday May 08 2012 3 25 PM
To Carrillo Sonia
Page, 1 of 1
From Shumate, Christy
Sent Friday, February 10 2012 11 20 AM
To Hair, Sarah E SAW, marella_buncick @fws gov, Mllitscher Chris @epamail epa gov, Chambers, Marla J,
Matthews, Monte K SAW, Lespinasse, Polly, Wrenn, Brian, Gledhill earley, Renee
Cc George Hoops @dot gov, Harris, Jennifer, Jill Gurak, Ferrell, Ronald E (Ronald Ferrell @atkinsgiobal com)
Subject Gaston E W Connector (U 3321) Project Update
Good morning
It has been a while since we met on the Garden Parkway project so we wanted to provide an update on the
project s status
We are anticipating that FHWA will issue the Record of Decision for the project in the next week to two weeks
Once the ROD is issued we will complete and submit the permit application package based on designs reviewed
at 4B and 4C meetings last summer We hope to have the package submitted by the end of February or within 1
to 2 weeks following the ROD As discussed at meetings last summer the permit application will include impacts
based hydraulic design for the 6 mile section of the project from NC 279 to 1 485 and preliminary design for the
remainder of the project
Also some agencies had requested a copy of the mitigation plan for the project in order to review potential on
site mitigation opportunities This report will be Included in the permit application package but we are also
going to be transmitting it to you today via NCDOT FTS
The Indirect and Cumulative Effects Water Quality Analysis has also been revised and finalized based on
comments from NCDWQ NCWRC and EPA The final report will be transmitted via FTS today as well
If you have trouble receiving and downloading either report please let me know
If you have any questions please feel free to contact me or Jennifer
Thanks
Christy
Christy Shumate AICP
Senior Transportation Planner
NCTA General Engineering Consultant
1578 Mail Service Center
Raleigh NC 27699 1578
Tel [phone]
Dir [phone]
croshumate ncdot gov
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FW Gaston E W Connector Buffers
FW Gaston E -W Connector -- Buffers
Lespinasse, Polly
Sent Tuesday May 08 2012 3 25 PM
To Carrillo Sonia
From Shumate, Christy
Sent Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10 06 AM
To Lespinasse, Polly
Cc Harris, Jennifer
Subject Gaston E W Connector Buffers
Polly
Couple of quick questions
Page 1 of 1
First I want to confirm that the buffer rules will apply to Catawba Creek — we assumed In the ROD and permit
application that they would and that mitigation for those impacts would be required
Also we are planning to incorporate a greenway (part of the Carolina Thread Trail) on the east side of Catawba
Creek Can that trail be located within the Zone 2 buffer? It should fit under the proposed bridge We are not
constructing the trail dust trying to make sure there is room for it to be built in the future
I heard too that you provided comments on the permit application already — thanks for looking at that so
quickly)
See you next week
Thanksl
Christy
Christy Shumate, AICP
Senior Transportation Planner
NCTA General Engineering Consultant
1578 Mall Service Center
Raleigh NC 27699 1578
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FW Gaston E W Connector ICE WQ analysis comments
FW Gaston E -W Connector ICE WQ analysis comments
Lespinasse, Polly
Sent Tuesday May 08 2012 3 18 PM
To Carrillo Sonia
Attachments GasEW ICE WQ2011 09 doc (330 KB)
From Chambers, Marla J
Sent Monday, October 03, 20119 44 AM
To Harris, Jennifer
Cc Hair, Sarah E SAW, Buncick, Marella, Militscher, Chris, Lespinasse, Polly, Wrenn, Brian
Subject Gaston E W Connector ICE WQ analysis comments
Please see attached comments
FYI after today 1 II be out of town for about a week
Take Care
Marla
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Marla J Chambers
Western NCDOT Permit Coordinator
North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission
12275 Swift Road
Oakboro NC 28129
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9 North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission 9
Gordon Myers Executive Director
TO Jennifer Harris P E , Director of Planning and Environmental Studies
North Carolina Turnpike Authority NCDOT
FROM Marla Chambers Western NCDOT Permit Coordinator 71'VI" L eta m&3"
Habitat Conservation Program NCWRC
DATE September 30 2011
SUBJECT Review of the Draft Indirect and Cumulative Effects Water Quality Analysis for
the NC Turnpike Authority s proposed Gaston East West Connector project,
Gaston and Mecklenburg Counties TIP No U 3321
The North Carolina Turnpike Authority (NCTA) has submitted for review a Draft Indirect and
Cumulative Effects Water Quality Analysis for the Gaston East West Connector dated August 2011
Staff biologists with the North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission ( NCWRC) have reviewed
the information provided and represent the agency at Turnpike Environmental Agency Coordination
(TEAC) meetings These comments are provided in accordance with the provisions of the National
Environmental Policy Act (42 U S C 4332(2)(c)) and the Fish and Wildlife Coordination Act (48
Stat 401 as amended 16 U S C 661 667d)
1
The report presents additional quantitative water quality analysis performed since the Final
Environmental Impact Statement was submitted to determine how the project may affect water
quality throughout the 265 square mile Study Area The analysis involved constructing watershed
models for the nine 12 digit hydrologic units (HUs) using the BasinSim build of the Generalized
Watershed Loading Functions (GWLF) model Annual runoff and annual overland pollutant loading
rates of total nitrogen (TN) total phosphorus (TP), and total suspended sediment (TSS) were
estimated for the three land use scenarios a year 2006 (or 2005 see Appendix B) baseline
(Baseline), a year 2035 without the Project (No Build) and a year 2035 with the project constructed
(Build)
After reviewing the analysis we continue to have significant concerns regarding the indirect and
cumulative impacts as well as direct impacts, from the proposed project As the report indicated,
five of the nine HUs composing the Study Area contain streams or waterbodies on the 2010 North
Carolina or South Carolina 303(d) list of impaired waters The project alignment intersects all five
Mailing Address Division of Inland Fisheries 1721 Mail Service Center Raleigh NC 27699 1721
Telephone [phone] Fax [phone]

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ICE water quality analysis Page 2 September 30 2011
HUs and interchanges are planned in all five The watershed model results for these five HUs
indicate increased runoff and TN and TP loads in the 2035 Build scenario compared to the 2035 No
Build scenario
All HUs drain to L Wylie and the project crosses both main arms of Lake Wylie the Catawba
River and South Fork Catawba River arms near the eastern end of the project nearest the Charlotte
Douglas International Airport and 1485 The report pointed out that Lake Wylie has a history of
nutrient enrichment problems which remain a problem according to the most recent samples In
addition to nutrient enrichment portions of Lake Wylie have more recently been cited as impaired
for aquatic life support due to water quality standard exceedances of low pH copper chlorophyll a
and high water temperature
Higher pollutant loads are anticipated as currently undeveloped, unmanaged land uses (namely forest
lands) are converted to residential commercial, and industrial uses Over 80 percent of the land
consumed by the project s direct and indirect effects is forecasted to come from forest and pasture
lands The document indicated 1,500 acres of direct impacts are expected from the project
right of way and that the 2035 Build scenario would see approximately 1,100 additional acres of
residential development consisting of 3 300 additional households compared to the No Build
scenario Most of the residential development (70 percent) is forecasted to occur in the Catawba
Creek and Lower Crowders HUs The greatest increase in runoff and nutrient loading rates is
expected in the Catawba Creek HU due to having in the largest increase in urban land use and
impervious coverage
Some of the report s projections seem counter intuitive and lead us to question some of the model
inputs and calibration For example the Build scenario was forecast to have approximately 100
fewer acres of commercial /industrial /office development in the Study Area as compared to the
No Build scenario despite the project s close proximity to Charlotte and the airport, it s connection
to 1485 and US 321 and its ability to serve as an alternate route to 185 Also despite the increase
in residential acreage the analysis assumed no changes to septic areas between the future land use
scenarios and assumed that the project will not make southern Gaston County more attractive to
group quarters types of facilities such as college dorms prisons nursing homes etc
We also have concerns regarding the projections of sediment and other pollutants After the GWLF
calculated TN TP, and TSS loads for a given HU the pollutant loads were reduced according to the
existing buffer characteristics within the legally protected areas of the HU Only currently protected
buffers were considered because the vegetated area beyond the protected zone was not guaranteed to
persist in the 2035 No Build and 2035 Build scenarios We see that as a good reason to use the
legally protected buffer for the future scenarios but are concerned that excluding the existing buffers
that lie beyond the minimum protection from the Baseline scenario and then calibrating the model
based on actual existing streamflows could skew the results It seems that linking minimum
protection with flows emanating from lands with greater buffer benefits might underestimate the
impacts and /or overestimate the effects of smaller buffers
In addition, it is unclear if the model took into consideration sediment impacts during the
construction phases of the roadway and subsequent secondary development The model estimated
pollutant loadings for the various land uses and calculated the differences between the baseline and

Gaston East West Connector
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future scenarios However, the transition period between land uses when most of the construction is
occurring is likely to have the most severe sediment impacts to a watershed and should be
adequately accounted for in the model
The document pointed out that since the analysis only considered riparian buffers for reducing
pollutant loads the watershed model overestimates pollutant loadings from areas that would
otherwise receive other types of stormwater treatment We understand that future levels of treatment
would be difficult to predict and agree with the report s statement that substantial pollutant load
reductions beyond those provided by the simulated riparian buffers could be realized if the EPA
Phase I and II Stormwater Rules in effect through 99 percent of the Study Area and
locally mandated stormwater treatment requirements are enforced
The analysis re enforces our concerns and recommendations detailed in our earlier comment letters
Please see our comments on the Draft and Final Environmental Impact Statements dated July 7
2009 and February 14 2011 respectively We continue to emphasize the importance of working
with the local community to implement additional protective measures and we encourage efforts to
restore water quality and wildlife habitat where currently degraded in the study area
Thank you for the opportunity to review and comment on this project If you have any questions
regarding these comments please contact me at [phone] We look forward to continuing our
participation in the planning process for this project
cc Sarah E Hair USACE
Marella Buncick USFWS
Christopher Militscher, USEPA
Polly Lespmasse NCDWQ
Brian Wrenn NCDWQ

FW Gaston (UNCLASSIFIED)
FW Gaston (UNCLASSIFIED)
Lespinasse, Polly
Sent Tuesday May 08 2012 3 21 PM
To Carrillo Sonia
- - - -- Original Message---- -
From Hair Sarah E SAW [mailto Sarah E Hair @usace army mil]
Sent Monday May 07 2012 1 34 PM
To Ferrell Ronald E Lespinasse Polly
Cc Phillip Rogers Shumate Christy
Subject RE Gaston (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats NONE
Page I of 4
The Corps received a request from the US EPA on April 26 2012 for an extension on
the comment deadline for the proposed Gaston Bypass project which we granted on May
4 2012 We have extended the deadline for EPA s comments until Tuesday May 29th
We anticipate the comments well in advance of the deadline I will forward them
once received
Thank you-
Liz Hair
Project Manager
Asheville Regulatory Field Office
U S Army Corps of Engineers - Wilmington District
151 Patton Ave Room 208
Asheville NC 28805
828 - 271 -7980 x 225
sarah e hair @usace army mil
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From Ferrell Ronald E [mailto Ronald Ferrell @atkinsglobal com]
Sent Thursday May 03 2012 10 39 AM
To Lespinasse Polly
Cc Hair Sarah E SAW Phillip Rogers Shumate Christy
Subject RE Gaston
Polly
We have a conference room available at the Atkins office on Millbrook Rd or if you
would prefer we could meet at DWQ If our office is OK let me know and I will
reserve a conference room
Ron Ferrell
Senior Scientist Mid - Atlantic Sciences
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1616 East Millbrook Road Suite 310 Raleigh NC 27609 -4968 1 Tel [phone]
52621 Fax [phone] Cell [phone]
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From Lespinasse Polly [mailto Polly lespi.nasse @ncdenr gov]
Sent Thursday May 03 2012 10 35 AM
To Ferrell Ronald E
Cc Hair Sarah E SAW Phillip Rogers Shumate Christy
Subject Re Gaston
0
Let s do the 10th Where do you want to meet's
Sent from my iPhone
On May 3 2012 at 10 13 AM Ferrell Ronald E < Ronald Ferrell @atkinsglobal com>
wrote
Polly
Whichever time works best for you will be OK with me although I prefer the
10th We are preparing our response to your comments and would like to discuss
with you particularly to determine the permit drawings that may need to be
revised We believe that we can explain the majority of your comments but also
realize that some of the permit drawings may need to be revised and re- submitted
Just let me know when and where that you would like to meet
Ron Ferrell
Senior Scientist Mid - Atlantic Sciences
ATKINS
1616 East Mi.11brook Road Suite 310 Raleigh NC 27609 -4968 1 Tel +1
(919) 431 52621 Fax [phone] Cell [phone]
Email ronald ferrell @atkinsglobal com 1 Web
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From Lespinasse Polly [mailto polly lespinasse @ncdenr gov]
Sent Thursday May 03 2012 9 22 AM
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FW Gaston (UNCLASSIFIED)
To Ferrell Ronald E
Cc Hair Sarah E SAW
Subject Gaston
F. MIS
Page 3 of 4
I guess I was incorrect about the 3 PM meeting I do in fact have a
meeting at 3 for a project in Gaston (with a similar TIP number) but its not the
turnpike' So that being said I would be willing to meet at 4 on the May 9th or
can meet with you on May 10th in the AM (around 10 or so) Now that you have my
comments you may not find it necessary to meet at all - dust let me know what
works
Thanks and sorry for the confusion'
Polly Lespinasse - Polly Lespinasse @ncdenr gov
Environmental Senior Specialist
North Carolina Dept\ of Environment & Natural Resources
Div of Water Quality
610 E Center Ave Suite 301
Mooresville NC 28115
Ph 704 235 2190 Fax [phone]
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To Donnie Brew @dot gov, George Hoops @dot gov, Wrenn Brian, Lespinasse, Polly,
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Subject U 3321 Mitigation Meeting Draft Minutes
Good Afternoon
Attached are the draft minutes from the meeting held last Tuesday in the NCDOT Board Room that discussed
mitigation for the Gaston E W Connector (U 3321) If you have any comments please provide them by Tuesday
(3/30/10)
Thanks again for your participation
Jeff Dayton, P E
Transportation Engineer
NCTA General Engineering Consultant
5400 Glenwood Avenue Suite 400
Raleigh NC 27612
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Meeting — Gaston East -West Connector
MEETING MINUTES
(Draft)
Date March 16 2010
1 00 pm to 4 00 pm
NCDOT Board Room — Transportation Building Raleigh NC
Project STIP U 3321 Gaston E W Connector — STP 1213(6)
Gaston E W Connector — Meeting Regarding Mitigation
Attendees
George Hoops FHWA
Donnie Brew FHWA
Steve DeWitt NCDOT NCTA
Jennifer Harris NCDOT NCTA
Todd Tugwell USACE
Mickey Sugg USACE
Chris Militscher USEPA
Polly Lespinasse NCDENR DWQ
Brian Wrenn NCDENR DWQ
Bill Gilmore NCDENR EEP
Jim Stanfill NCDENR EEP
Marc Recktenwald NCDENR EEP
Beth Harmon NCDENR EEP
Via Telephone
Liz Hair USACE
Andrea Leslie NCDENR EEP
Amy Simes NCDENR
Leilani Paugh NCDOT NEU
Bill Barrett NCDOT NEU
Linda Fitzgerald NCDOT NEU
Greg Thorpe NCDOT PDEA
Missy Pair NCDOT PDEA
Jeff Dayton HNTB
Jill Gurak PBS &J
Michael Gloden PBS &J
Jens Geratz PBS &J
Presentation Materials
• Agenda
• Handout—NCTA Garden Parkway Impacts to Jurisdictional Resources
• Handout — EEP Garden Parkway Project Search GIS Search and Field Reconnaissance Results
• Handout — EEP Available Assets in Catawba 01 and Catawba 02
• Presentation on Site Search Conducted by EEP Powerpoint Slideshow Printout
Purpose
Discuss and agree upon the mitigation approach for the Gaston East West Connector for impacts to jurisdictional
resources
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Introduction and Presentation
Donnie Brew opened the meeting with introductions He then asked the attendees whether there were any high
level regulatory issues regarding permitting of the Garden Parkway project and the proposed approach of using
programmatic mitigation through EEP
NCDWQ stated that the location of the mitigation does not hinge on the fact that there are several 303d
listed streams impacted by the project However because there are numerous of 303d listed streams
then mitigation implemented nearby may be more appropriate NCDWQ always prefers on site mitigation
where feasible and since there are so many 303d listed streams NCDWQ would like to see more local
mitigation However NCDWQ is not opposed to off site mitigation
Bill Gilmore asked whether the project was following the merger process In the merger process mitigation is
normally discussed after a Least Environmentally Damaging Practicable Alternative (LEDPA) is identified
The project is following a modified merger process and Concurrence Points (CP) 1 through 4a have been
achieved LEDPA (CP 3) was identified in October 2009 Avoidance and Minimization (CP 4a) was
achieved in February 2010 The refined designs for the Preferred Alternative reduced impacts substantially
(by 12 966 linear feet) NCTA has been providing annual updates to EEP on estimated impacts NCTA
has also discussed mitigation with the environmental resource and regulatory agencies since last summer
at the monthly meetings
USACE requested a summary of past discussions with USEPA since Mickey Sugg Todd Tugwell and Liz Hair had
not attended the meetings Steve Lund recently retired has been the USACE representative on the project
NCTA stated that Kathy Matthews of USEPA has expressed concern about the magnitude of impacts and
potential impacts to 303d listed streams When it was discussed that EEP would be the primary source for
mitigation Ms Matthews recommended also looking at other potential mitigation such as on site mitigation
or non traditional mitigation
Chris Militscher stated that Ms Matthew s notes indicated she had three basic concerns One was the use
of Bobs Pocket for mitigation credit on this project since the Bobs Pocket is far away from the project and
the Bobs Pocket site is not under immediate threat of development Another recommendation was to have
a more aggressive approach to searching for local or more nearby mitigation opportunities and to make
sure no good local opportunities were being missed Finally USEPA always prefers on site mitigation if it
makes sense from ecosystem water quality and cost perspectives
Polly Lespinasse noted that the amount of mitigation available for this project was a concern for NCDWQ
since there are other projects in the area that also will need mitigation
Todd Tugwell stated he was aware of some of USEPA s concerns and that there was also concern that mitigation
ratios at Bobs Pocket would not be high
Jim Stanfill asked if the permitting agencies thought this project is a unique situation (no immediate responses)
EEP prepares mitigation in advance for many transportation projects and does not know which mitigation site
credits will be applied to each project until the permit is issued In the case of the Garden Parkway there is some
opportunity to look at mitigation beforehand which does not happen often Normally all mitigation is already in
hand before permits and mitigation discussions occur for a project
Donnie Brew stated that agreement between the agencies for the programmatic approach to mitigation is an
effective approach but sometimes there can be exceptions
Jill Gurak provided an overview of the project impacts to jurisdictional resources She noted
• Draft EIS signed in April 2009
• Draft EIS included impacts for 12 Detailed Study Alternatives (DSAs) based on preliminary engineering
designs
• LEDPA and Preferred Alternative is DSA 9
• Design refinements made to DSA 9 reduced stream impacts by over 12 000 linear feet (12 966 linear feet)
These included
• Reducing median width by 20 feet
• Eliminating the Bud Wilson Road interchange (substantial savings at this location)
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• Reducing the footprint of the Robinson Road NC 274 (Union Road) and NC 273 (Southpoint
Road) interchanges
• Redesigning the 1 485 interchange and reducing the footprint (substantial savings at this location)
• Impacts were calculated based on the preliminary engineering design construction limits with a 25 foot
buffer which is standard NCDOT practice for calculating impacts based on preliminary level design
• There will be incentives for the Design Build team to further reduce impacts
• The impacts to 303d listed streams noted in the handout are impacts to unnamed tributaries that feed
named streams included in the Final 303d list (2008) and are not listed streams themselves The listed
named streams are bridged including an extended bridge over Catawba Creek to span an adjacent
wetland
• The Draft 2010 list also included South Fork Catawba River which would be bridged and McGill Branch
and South Crowders Creek neither of which are impacted by the Preferred Alternative
Donnie Brew asked if any of the attendees thought the proposed project would not be able to obtain a permit
None of the attendees replied in the affirmative
Michael Gloden provided an overview of the on site mitigation survey conducted for the Preferred Alternative
(Technical Memorandum — On Site Mitigation Field Review PBS &J January 2010) He noted
• 20 tax parcels containing 1 050 acres were initially identified using GIS
• The field survey narrowed the sites to seven parcels grouped into three locations Additional evaluations
are still needed as well as discussions with the property owners
1 Stream enhancement of approximately 5 600 linear feet (Linwood Springs Golf Course)
2 Stream enhancement and restoration of approximately 1 700 linear feet (Harrison Family Dairy
Farm)
3 Wetland enhancement of approximately 6 acres (logged site)
• Enhancement means measures such as revegetation and bank repair
Leilani Paugh stated the report provides a good survey of sites based on a traditional approach but there may be
opportunities for more creative or non traditional mitigation For example stormwater issues in stream work and
watershed preservation If a potential site is immediately adjacent to the project then condemnation for this
mitigation would not be prohibited NCDOT is in the process of scheduling a site visit with permitting agencies in
Mecklenburg County for a couple projects that include some non traditional mitigation
USEPA is interested in non traditional mitigation opportunities Chris Militscher stated he thought there
were some good opportunities near the Carolina Speedway and he believes a number of the systems in
the project area have degraded over the last several years even without the proposed project having been
implemented
NCDWQ is interested in considering non traditional mitigation However Brian Wrenn stated the measures
would need to be above and beyond what would be required by regulation in order to receive mitigation
credit
USACE stated that it is difficult to determine mitigation ratios for non traditional mitigation and when
enough is proposed Mr Tugwell asked if there has been any monitoring of non traditional sites
Leilani Paugh stated NCDOT has not conducted any monitoring in the project area NCDOT
currently is establishing a monitoring program for a project on the coast
Jim Stanfill suggested that the Charlotte mitigation bank may be the closest example site They
are conducting some monitoring
EEP has enough mitigation credits now to permit the project fully EEP provided a list of available assets in a
meeting handout However no other project would be able to be permitted until additional mitigation credits were
obtained in the watershed Most of the credits that would be used for the proposed project are located in the lower
Catawba Less than half of the credits available from the Bobs Pocket site might have been applied to the Garden
Parkway The available credits are in the monitoring stage with dust a couple sites in the design stage Required
ratios for a project are not normally known until the permit is issued Historically ratios have been between 1 1 —
2 1 with the ratio average usually about 1 5 1 The EEP plans for a ratio of 2 1 to be conservative
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Andrea Leslie gave a Powerpoint presentation (attached) on EEP watershed planning in the project area She
noted
• EEP uses a watershed planning approach based on 8 digit Catalog Unit Catawba 01 and 02 have several
targeted local watersheds although none are in Gaston County
• EEP currently has the following assets (see full list in handout)
• Restoration Catawba 01 — 16 352 Stream Mitigation Unit (SMU) Catawba 02 — 18 767 SMU
• Restoration Equivalent — High Quality Preservation Southern Piedmont ecoregion 32 928 SMU
and Catawba 01 — 5 107 SMU
o EEP also has riparian wetland credits available as listed in the handout
• The GIS site search of local watersheds for the Garden Parkway included parcels in Mecklenburg and
Gaston Counties that had more than 1 000 linear feet of stream with land use restoration potential Project
feasibility determined by five criteria total project stream length greater than 1 500 linear feet 1 3
landowners drainage area less than 10 square miles streams with narrow or no buffer on at least one
side and riparian corridor without severe constraints
• The GIS analysis sites were then visited in the field in March 2010 After field reconnaissance EEP
identified 8 projects in Crowders Creek drainage (14 digit HU = 3050101180010) 5 projects in Catawba
Creek drainage (HU = 3050101180020) and 1 project in South Fork Catawba River East (HU =
3050102060020) Total potential stream restoration length is 32 400 linear feet in Tier 1 (most promising
sites) and 12 100 linear feet in Tier 2 (project has significant constraints)
• Further evaluation is needed along with property owner contact
Greg Thorpe asked if the agencies would consider mitigation across the state line in South Carolina since the
project is close to the state line USACE will not accept mitigation outside North Carolina USEPA and NCDWQ
agreed with this statement
Donnie Brew reviewed some of the main points of the programmatic agreement for mitigating the impacts of
transportation projects in North Carolina
Requires mitigation to be in the ground before the project is constructed The mitigation should be in the
same 8 digit hydrologic unit and be of the same type as the impacted resource
• Mitigation ratios are typically 1 1 for restoration and 2 1 for restoration equivalent
The benefits of the programmatic approach include achieving mitigation in advance of an impact and
implementing mitigation based on watershed planning The programmatic approach allows focus on
problem watershed areas This approach also results in predictability for the NCDOT and FHWA in
planning and scheduling projects
Mr Brew stated that if the programmatic approach is not used for the Garden Parkway then mitigation already in
the ground would not be applied to this project and there would be a project delay while other mitigation is
implemented The programmatic approach does not have a static direct link between particular mitigation sites and
projects until the project permit is issued then the locations /origins of the credits are established so the same
credits are not used for another project
Bill Gilmore stated the EEP program matches impacts of all types of projects in a watershed area with overall
watershed needs
Donnie Brew asked again whether the programmatic mitigation approach would be acceptable for the Garden
Parkway Donnie Brew suggested that the programmatic approach would allow for the EEP to focus future efforts
in watershed areas where mitigation is needed These credits would be applied to future projects but the Garden
Parkway would be the influence that steers these future credits to areas the agencies felt they were most needed
This is a normal process in the programmatic watershed approach to mitigation
USEPA wants FHWA and NCTA to document on site mitigation opportunities more fully and also whether
there are potential mitigation sites within 1 2 miles of the project Non traditional measures also should be
fully evaluated and their feasibility or infeasibility documented in the mitigation plan
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Mr Brew noted this suggestion for studying nearby (not adjacent) mitigation and non traditional
measures would not be the normal process The non traditional measures would be difficult to
assign ratios to so would these be bonus mitigation?
USACE stated non traditional opportunities would be implemented only because traditional approaches not
available The programmatic approach was acceptable
NCDWQ would consider on site mitigation as the first priority NCDWQ s permit constraints likely would be
related to providing mitigation in Piedmont streams not Mountain streams (i a using credits that are from
the same ecoregion) NCDWQ would not be as concerned with thermal classification (cold /cool /warm)
However NCDWQ was comfortable with the programmatic approach to mitigation for the Garden Parkway
with a programmatic adjustment in the focus of the location of mitigation projects in the Catawba 01 and
Catawba 02 areas
EEP noted that there are a number of mitigation opportunities in the Catawba 01 watershed
NCDWQ stated that the Catawba 01 watershed is large and crosses several ecoregions Some mitigation in this
region may not be appropriate for the project if it occurs in a different ecoregion
USACE stated that if NCDWQ wants mitigation to occur in specific 14 digit HUCS then the permit would need to
specify this requirement Greg Thorpe stated that a restriction such as this would likely result in EEP spending
more money to find specific mitigation
EEP has nearby mitigation credits available at Beaverdam Creek of approximately 13 000 linear feet of stream
credit The search for potential nearby mitigation projects presented by Andrea Leslie identified another 32 000
linear feet of potential stream mitigation The EEP would be willing to pursue these potential projects as part of the
normal process for identifying mitigation credits in Catawba 01 and Catawba 02 However these mitigation
projects would not be tied directly to the Garden Parkway
Todd Tugwell also noted that the USACE likely will require mitigation for some intermittent streams Polly
Lespinasse stated that based on her field visits many of the intermittent streams would be considered important
from a permitting perspective
Jim Stanfill noted that EEP does try to provide associated credits that are of the same stream regimen (i a cool
stream mitigation for cool stream impacts) However Catawba 01 is large and a few projects in the past have had
cold /cool and cool /warm credits allowed
Chris Militscher noted that USEPA has been providing comments on the proposed project since 2001 and the
FHWA and NCTA have known about the impacts and should have been pursuing on site and nearby mitigation for
this project A conceptual mitigation plan was requested to be included in the Draft EIS
The Preferred Alternative was identified in October 2009 and an on site mitigation survey was initiated
shortly afterward following standard procedures The refined preliminary designs reduced stream impacts
by approximately 12 966 linear feet NCTA was not in a position in the Draft EIS to develop a conceptual
mitigation plan The Final EIS is not completed yet and FHWA and NCTA intend to include a conceptual
mitigation in the Final EIS
USEPA stated that they cannot comment on the proposed mitigation until there is a more formal presentation of
mitigation that considers on site mitigation nearby (or near site) mitigation and non traditional measures USEPA
also is concerned about the potential amount of indirect and cumulative impacts since waters in the area are
already impaired The Clean Water Act prohibits actions that further degrade already degraded waters
FHWA stated they would work with USEPA separately to try to address concerns NCDOT and FHWA do not
mitigate for indirect and cumulative effects
Marc Recktenwald stated EEP can focus efforts on the potential nearby mitigation sites identified in Andrea Leslie s
presentation and have more information to include in a conceptual mitigation plan regarding the feasibility of these
sites EEP can also provide a list of projects already implemented that have benefited the watershed
NCDOT will work with NCTA and their consultants to evaluate non traditional measures
Leilani Paugh will provide examples of other conceptual mitigation plans for use in developing the plan for the
Garden Parkway
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Conclusions
A conceptual mitigation plan for the Preferred Alternative will be prepared and summarized in the Final EIS
EEP has enough credits in hand to permit the Garden Parkway project including 13 000 linear feet of stream
mitigation credits at Beaverdam Creek dust south of the Preferred Alternative
The programmatic approach is acceptable to NCDWQ and USACE EEP should initiate a programmatic
adjustment in the focus of the location of mitigation projects in the Catawba 01 and Catawba 02 areas
NCDWQ permit constraints may include provisions related to providing mitigation in Piedmont streams within
Catawba 01 and Catawba 02 (rather than Mountain streams)
The USACE and NCDWQ will not accept credits outside of North Carolina (i a credits in South Carolina)
NCDWQ and USEPA prefer on site mitigation where feasible The on site mitigation search should be fully
documented including contact with property owners
NCDWQ and USEPA are interested in more information regarding the feasibility of non traditional measures for on
site mitigation and possibly near site mitigation NCDOT NEU and NCTA will evaluate non traditional measures
and will report the results in the conceptual mitigation plan
USEPA will not comment until they review the conceptual mitigation plan USEPA would like to see on site and
near site mitigation and non traditional measures They are also concerned with indirect and cumulative effects
and further degradation of area streams
Action Items
• EEP will provide additional information about the potential mitigation projects identified in the 14 digit HUCs
near the project
• NCTA and NCDOT NEU will evaluate the feasibility of non traditional mitigation measures for on site
mitigation
• NCTA will contact the property owners of the three site identified in the on site mitigation survey to
determine their interest
• NCTA will prepare a conceptual mitigation plan and include a summary in the Final EIS
• NCTA will coordinate with USACE to determine the remaining tasks required to identify which intermittent
streams are important
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FW U 3321 Mitigation Meeting Minutes
FW U -3321 Mitigation Meeting Minutes
Lespinasse, Polly
Sent Tuesday May 08 2012 2 54 PM
To Carrillo Sonia
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From Dayton Jeff
Sent Thursday April 01 2010 12 42 PM
To Donnie Brew @dot gov, George Hoops @dot gov Wrenn Brian Lespinasse Polly militscher chris @epamail epa gov
Harmon Beth Gilmore Bill Recktenwald Marc todd tugwell @usace army mil Sarah E Hair @usace army mil,
mickey t sugg @usace army mil Leslie Andrea Barrett William A Paugh Leilani Y Fitzpatrick Linda F Simes Amy
Thorpe Gregory J Pair Missy Stanfill Jim
Cc Harris Jennifer Dewitt Steve, Geratz Jens Gloden Michael C jsgurak
Subject RE U 3321 Mitigation Meeting Minutes
All
For your files I ve attached the final minutes from the mitigation meeting on 03/16/10 Thanks to those of you who
provided comments
Let us know if you need anything else
Regards
Jeff
From Dayton Jeff
Sent Wednesday March 24 2010 5 09 PM
To Donnie Brew @dot gov George Hoops @dot gov brian wrenn @ncdenr gov polly lespinasse @ncdenr gov,
militscher chns @epamad epa gov Beth Harmon @ncdenr gov, Bill Gilmore @ncdenr gov
Marc Recktenwald @ncdenr gov todd tugwell @usace army mil Sarah E Hair @usace army mil
mickey t sugg @usace army mil Leslie Andrea Barrett William A Paugh Leilani Y Iffitzpatrick @ncdot gov,
amy simes @ncdenr gov gthorpe @ncdot gov mpair @ncdot gov, dim stanfill @ncdenr gov
Cc Harris Jennifer Dewitt Steve Geratz Jens Gloden Michael C jsgurak
Subject U 3321 Mitigation Meeting Draft Minutes
Good Afternoon
Attached are the draft minutes from the meeting held last Tuesday in the NCDOT Board Room that discussed mitigation
for the Gaston E W Connector (U 3321) If you have any comments please provide them by Tuesday (3/30/10)
Thanks again for your participation
Jeff Dayton P E
Transportation Engineer
NCTA General Engineering Consultant
5400 Glenwood Avenue Suite 400
Raleigh NC 27612 ,
Tel [phone]
Dir [phone]
Fax [phone]
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