20110478 Ver 1_Staff Comments_20110519

Dennison, Laurie
From: Higgins, Karen
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 9:45 AM
To: Johnson, Alan
Cc: Krebs, Rob; Dennison, Laurie; Mcmillan, Ian
Subject: RE: Prospect Baptist Church (Stanly)
Alan-
I understand that you are trying to get this site in compliance and working with the owners to get there. There are a
few problems with the documents we received that are keeping us from treating this as simply a "courtesy copy."
First, the impacts listed are as follows: 65 linear feet of intermittent stream - piped; 180 linear feet of intermittent
stream - regarded; total impacts 245 feet. As stated in GC 3821, impacts greater than 150 linear feet (temporary or
permanent) require written approval. If they have listed the impacts incorrectly, please work with these folks to have
them revise their application and resubmit it so the PCN accurately reflects the temporary and permanent impacts. If
the total impacts do not trigger written approval, then we can process a new and correct PCN as a "courtesy copy."
Also, please make sure they include an agent authorization as the gentleman that filled out the application is not the
owner of the property.
Second, I understand your point that we do not require a PCN for restoration of sediment impacts. The difference here
is that the culvert is fill, which triggers the 404 and the 401. We would not issue a 401 for putting sediment in the
stream, so while they are both impacts, the permitting trigger is different.
Finally, there was no stormwater management plan including with the documents we received. The City of Albemarle is
not a "certified" local government, so they will need to submit their stormwater management plan to us for review.
If you have any questions, please give me a call. We are getting the application scanned and put into RIMS, so once we
have a project number, we'll send that information to you.
Thanks-
Karen
Karen Higgins
Wetlands. Buffers. Stormwater - Compliance & Permitting Unit Supervisor
NCDENR I DVUQ I Wetlands & Stormwater Branch
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From: Johnson, Alan
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 20113:27 PM
To: Dennison, Laurie
Cc: Krebs, Rob
Subject: RE: Prospect Baptist Church (Stanly)
There is no compromise and I am not asking. This is little different than sediment in the stream that we handle all the
time and we require it to be removed. In those case we require NO pcn for the stream to be restored. At this site, the
hard impact is the culvert, the remainder is the stream restored. I asked that the "restoration" be included for
clarification so "we" would have information. Thus the purpose of the "courtesy" copy, which is an informational copy.
PDF a copy and I will take a look. There is not 245 If hard/permanent impact.
The application was to get the culvert permitted (less than 150, no written approval required)
Check with Karen.
From: Dennison, Laurie
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:16 AM
To: Johnson, Alan
Cc: Krebs, Rob; Mcmillan, Ian; Higgins, Karen
Subject: RE: Prospect Baptist Church (Stanly)
Importance: High
Alan -
The PCN states 65 If & 180 If of permanent impact = 245 If of stream. I'm not going to compromise myself and set
something up that according to the PCN is not courtesy. They can submit a corrected PCN if what you say is correct.
Laurie
From: Johnson, Alan
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 20114:00 PM
To: Dennison, Laurie
Cc: Krebs, Rob; Mcmillan, Ian
Subject: RE: Prospect Baptist Church (Stanly)
This is under a NW 39, the hard impact was less than 150, there is a SW bmp in place. Just working with the customer to
get the hard impact permitted and the remainder of the temporary impact "restored". This gives us a copy to check up
on at a later time and gets it in the system.
From: Dennison, Laurie
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:22 AM
To: Johnson, Alan
Cc: Mcmillan, Ian
Subject: Prospect Baptist Church (Stanly)
Alan,
It is not apparent to me why you would consider this a courtesy copy with 245 If of stream impact reflected. It's also an
after the fact permit request.
Laurie
Laurie Dennison
Administrative Assistant
Wetlands, Buffers, and Stormwater, Compliance and Permitting Unit (WEBSCAPE)
NCDENR/Division of Water Quality - Wetlands and Stormwater Branch
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Dennison, Laurie
From: Dennison, Laurie
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 8:22 AM
To: Johnson, Alan
Cc: Krebs, Rob; Higgins, Karen; Mcmillan, Ian
Subject: RE: prospect
Please send us or scan for us a copy of that email for our file here in Central.
Thanks!
Laurie
From: Johnson, Alan
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 20114: 11 PM
To: Dennison, Laurie
Cc: Krebs, Rob
Subject: prospect
The "regraded" comment in the table should be considered temporary, not permanent.
I saved an old email with the form attached and didn't catch that.
Alan Johnson - [e-mail]
North Carolina Dept. of Environment & Natural Resources
Div. of Water Quality
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Mooresville, NC 28115
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