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NCDENR
North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources
Division of Water Quality
Beverly Eaves Perdue Coleen H. Sullins Dee Freeman
Governor Director Secretary
April 22, 2010
CERTIFIED MAIL: RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED
Mr. Todd Black
Fall Creek Land Company
P.O. Box 638
Hickory, NC 28603
Subject Property: Grandview Peaks Recreational Lakes
Shoal Creek [030802, 9-41-12-1, WSV]
Kelly Branch [030802, 9-41-12-2, WSV]
Weaver Branch [030802, 9-41-12-1-1, WSIV]
REQUEST FOR MORE INFORMATION
Dear Mr. Black:
DWQ Project # 07-0168, Ver. 2
McDowell County
On December 17, 2009, the Division of Water Quality (DWQ) received your application dated December
10, 2009, with Public Notice issued by the USACE on January 12, 2010, and received by the DWQ
January 12, 2010, to fill or otherwise impact 0.73 acres of 404/wetland (0.04 acres dam fill, and 0.69
acres flooding), and 695 linear feet of stream (dam fill), and flood 5,970 linear feet of stream, to construct
two aesthetic lakes within the Grandview Lakes residential development. On March 12, 2010, the DWQ
received additional information from you, however, the DWQ has determined that your application
remains incomplete and/or provided inaccurate information as discussed below. The DWQ will require
additional information in order to process your application to impact protected wetlands and/or streams on
the subject property. Therefore, unless we receive three copies of the additional information requested
below, we will place this project on hold as incomplete until we receive this additional information. If we
do not receive the requested information, your project will be formally returned as incomplete. Please
provide the following information so that we may continue to review your project.
Additional Information Requested:
To address your response to the following DWQ request from our February 15, 2010
correspondence to you, "Also on page 17, the applicant states that if at some point during their
proposed 5-year monitoring program that if water quality parameters measurements are found to
be unsatisfactory by the DWQ, the applicant will submit a contingency plan to return water
quality parameters to satisfactory levels." How do you propose to do this and what will this
contingency plan consist of?", the DWQ requests the following: The key water quality
parameters the DWQ are concerned with in regards to future water quality violations are -
dissolved oxygen, chlorophyll a, totaled dissolved gases, temperature, fecal coliforms, and pH.
Again, we request to review the Lake Management Plans your Certified Lake Manager has for
these proposed impoundments. Finally, we understand you do not want to provide the DWQ
your complete and comprehensive dam design and details due to cost, however, we do need to
401 Oversight/Express Review Permitting Unit
1650 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, North Carolina 27699-1650
Location: 2321 Crabtree Blvd„ Raleigh, North Carolina 27604
Phone: 919-733-17861 FAX: 919-733-6893
Internet: http:l/h2o.enr.state.nc.us/ncwetlands/
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An Equal opportunity 1 Affirmative Action Employer
Mr. Todd Black and Fall Creek Land Company
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April 22, 2010
review your proposed minimum release structure at this time, and may condition your 401 Water
Quality Certification such that your proposed impacts may not be conducted until the DWQ has
reviewed and approved your complete and comprehensive dam design and details.
2. You did not respond to the bolded and underlined segment from our February 15, 2010,
correspondence to you. So, please provide plans at a 1'=100' scale clearly showing which lots
are sold and please place building envelopes on all lots that contain wetlands or streams.
Your general response to the following request from our February 15, 2010, correspondence to you,
indicates the sole purpose for the lakes is to secure greater profit for the development. This is not a
valid rationale for the discharge of fill material into Waters of the State. Page 34 of the application
narrative states, "...when the lake is the primary amenity, lot values become heavily dependent on its
presence, and the value of lots on or in close proximity of the lake see a substantial increase in
value." How did you determine this? This position runs contrary to a. recent study conducted by the
University of Wisconsin-Madison - Department of Agricultural & Applied Economics, dated July
2007, regarding the effects of dam removal on small lake communities which found the following:
The general conclusions of this research are:
Shoreline frontage along small impoundments (ponds) does not notably increase
residential property value compared to frontage along free-flowing rivers.
Residential property located near a free-flowing river is more valuable than identical
property located near an impoundment (pond). Our research estimated that property
along a free-flowing river would be worth, on average, $14,000 more than a similar
property at the site of a recently removed dam or current impoundment (pond).
The results also indicate that removing a dam does little harm to property values in
the short run (2 years in the study), and helps increase property values in the long
run, as the stream and the area along it return to a "natural" free-flowing state, or are
managed as a desirable open space such as a park.
While this research focused on a single housing market in a relatively small area, the basic
messages of these results apply to other locations as well. The study focused on communities
that had relatively small ponds, and the results may not apply to large impoundments where
recreational activities like fishing, boating and swimming are well established.
Based on what our research found, we would expc.ot that properties that lose their frontage ou
impoundments would not decrease in value, and may in fact increase in value as their
frontage converts to frontage on a river. The value of properties that no longer have water
frontage after a dam removal depends on what replaces the area of the former impoundment.
Often, such a riverside public "greenbelt" replaces the.impoundment. Studies indicate open
space increases the housing values of adjacent properties, particularly if the open space is
dedicated to nature preservation and passive experiences, such as hiking and birdwatching.
Link: http://www.wisconsinrivers.org/index.php?page=content&mode=view&id=6
4. According to the North Carolina State Dam Safety program, the greatest number of dams they permit
each year are for subdivisions and most are high hazard. In addition to impacts on water quality and
the aquatic community, this is presenting a huge issue for homeowners who don't realize what they're
getting into. Ownership of these dams transfers from the developer to the HOA, leaving them the
liability and responsibility for maintenance.
Mr. Todd Black and Fall Creek Land Company
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April 22, 2010
This Office learned from personnel with the American Rivers organization of two examples of HOA's
who have gotten into trouble with this scenario. In both cases, the dams owned by the HOA were
determined by the state to be unsafe and require repair or removal. In one case, the HOA paid over
$20K to repair the dam (were unable to pay cost of removal), and that was split only between 10
homeowners (who didn't realize they owned a dam until the inspection letter came). In the second
case, the HOA has just contacted American Rivers to see if they can get any grants to help with
removal. Unfortunately, according to American Rivers, they are #1 in a series of 5 on a small stream,
so it's unlikely American Rivers will be able to help.
Since, it is our understanding based on the November 30, 2009, pre-application meeting, that the
maintenance and liability for the proposed amenity ponds will be the Grandview Peaks HOA, is the
HOA aware of this arrangement and the legal ramifications, and if so what operations and
maintenance agreement has been presented to the HOA? This Office requests a copy of the
operations and maintenance agreement.
Please submit this information or otherwise address this request within 30 calendar days of the date of this
letter. If we do not receive this requested information within 30 calendar days of the date of this letter,
your project will be withdrawn and you will need to reapply with a new application and a new fee.
This letter only addresses the application review and does not authorize any impacts to wetlands, waters or
protected buffers. Please be aware that any impacts requested within your application are not authorized (at
this time) by the DWQ. Please call Mr. Ian McMillan or Ms. Amy Chapman at 919-733-1786 if you have
any questions regarding or would like to set up a meeting to discuss this matter.
Sin erely,
Ian McMillan, Acting Supervisor
401 Oversight/Express Review Permitting Unit
IJM
cc: Kevin Barnett, DWQ Asheville Regional Office
Amanda Jones, USACE Asheville Regulatory Field Office
File Copy
Jennifer Derby, Wetlands, Coastal, and Oceans Branch, Water Protection Division, U.S.
Environmental Protection Agency, 61 Forsyth Street, SW, 15th Floor, Atlanta, GA 30303
Becky Fox, 1307 Firefly Road, Whittier, NC 28789
Lynnette Batt, Associate Director for River Restoration, NC, American Rivers, 331 West Main
Street, Suite 504, Durham, NC 27701
D.J. Gerken, SELL, 29 N. Market St., Suite 604, Asheville, NC 28801
Clement Riddle, CEC, 718 Oakland Street, Hendersonville, NC 28791
Filename: 070168Ver2GrandviewPeaksRecreationalLa kes(McDowell)On_Hold
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Fall Creek Land Co 4/22/10
Todd Black
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Hickory NC 28603
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