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Farkas, Jim J
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Thanks Jim.

Revised sheet attached.

Steve Farmartino, PE
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From: Farkas, Jim J <[e-mail]>
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Steve,

For our purposes, the retaining wall should be included on Line 6 of the Supplement-EZ Form, Wet Pond Page, Proposed
Drainage Area 2. If you like, you can you can clarify on Line 55 that the retaining wall doesn’t influence the
storage/water surface elevations, but it’s not needed.

-Jim

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Morning Jim,

Hope you had a good weekend.

Responses to your comments below in green. Please let us know if you need anything else on these to issue final
approval.

Thanks,

Steve Farmartino, PE
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From: Farkas, Jim J <[e-mail]>
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Steve,

I was looking over the additional information you provided on April 17, 2020. Everything looks good except for a few
small issues:

Please correct the following:
The provided stage-storage table in the calculations for the treatment volume portion of wet pond 2 starts at
elevation 776.5 whereas the permanent pool elevation is 777. Please provide the corrected stage-storage table
page for wet pond 2, and if necessary, the corrected drawdown calculation page and/or anything else that might
change due to addressing this issue (If the stage-storage table and drawdown calculations are the only things
that are changing, you can email me a pdf of the corrected pages of the report and that will suffice. If the orifice
needs to be resized, you will need to provide hard copies of the updated plans. If something else changes, please
email me). Corrected stage storage table attached. Drawdown orifice/dewatering time was correctly modeled
off of 777.00 permanent pool elevation so no update was necessary besides the attached sheet.
- Supplement-EZ Form, Wet Pond Page, Proposed Drainage Area 2, Line 6 – Per plan sheet C-912, the wet pond
appears to have a retaining wall. You can email me a pdf of the updated Wet Pond Page of the Supplement-EZ
Form and that will suffice (Also, if the drawdown time for the wet pond changes (per prior comment) don’t
forget to update Line 40). Bottom of retaining wall is at the top of berm elevation (783.00) and does not
influence any storage/water surface elevations. It’s no problem to change the Supplement-EZ form if still
required, just wanted to make it clear that the wall is not actually a part of the pond footprint.

Since these are really minor things, once I get the requested information (Provided anything major doesn’t change
addressing these comments), we can issue the permit. It’s already drafted up and ready to go.

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Let me know if you have any questions.

Jim Farkas
Environmental Engineer
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Energy, Mineral, & Land Resources – Stormwater Program

512 N. Salisbury Street
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Raleigh, NC 27699-1612

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Morning Jim,

Hope you’ve been well.

Any update on the Cambridge MF project? Our clients have a critical date with their financial partners this Friday (5/8)
and I know they will be eager for an update.

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Again, if anything comes up during this review please let us know how we can get you what you need to approve the
project.

I’ve attached an email from Lincoln County Natural Resources from 4/6 where the reviewer states she needs offsite
approval letters (we have since closed this item out) and State stormwater permit to approve the plans. Let me know if
you need anything else on this front.

Thanks again.

Steve Farmartino, PE
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From: Farkas, Jim J <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 9:37 AM
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Steve,

A copy of the email form the county will be fine.

Currently there are 8 projects ahead of you in the review queue (I haven’t been into the office in a week so there might
be others that I haven’t seen yet), and I have a 2 day training scheduled next week. Realistically, I probably won’t be able
to look at a new submission for at least 2 weeks.

Let me know if you have any other questions,

-Jim

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Afternoon Jim,

Hope you are doing well. Couple quick questions:

What letter from the County were you looking for? I can provide email documentation that we are only waiting on the
NCDEQ state stormwater permit for approval if that is what you are looking for.

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How is your workload shaping up for the next couple weeks? Any idea when you’ll be able to get to this project?

Thanks,

Steve Farmartino, PE
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From: Farkas, Jim J <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 12:56 PM
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Steve,

See below in red.

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Morning Jim,

Hope all is well.

We have resubmitted the Cambridge Village Multifamily stormwater package to your office. Please see below for some
comments and questions:
- All offsite water that was previously routed to Wet Pond 2 has been bypassed through the site to avoid any need
for legal agreements with adjacent property owners. OK
- The northern half of the site drains to Mountain Island Lake which is classified as a protected WS-IV and limits
BUA to 70% of the site. The northern half of the project is below this BUA threshold. Additionally, Lincoln County
has approved our project pending NCDEQ State Stormwater Permit and an offsite agreement letter. OK, send
over that letter form Lincoln County (If it isn’t already included in the resubmission).
- The comment letter indicated if there are any additional comments we may have to resubmit everything from
scratch with another fee. If there are any minor issues, are you open to working with us to get it approved this
round? I’m confident we addressed everything appropriately, but there was a fair amount of redesign required
after the recent comment on how we were handling off-site runoff. If it’s something minor, we can address it
over email (without needing a full resubmittal).
- Any idea when you will be able to complete your review and hopefully issue approval? Our client is looking to
update their JV partner on when they will be able to pull permits. I’d say about 30 days (It really depends on how
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much stuff has arrived at the office since the last time I was in. If we haven’t received a lot of stuff, it could be
sooner)

Thanks and please let me know if you have any questions or comments.

Steve Farmartino, PE
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From: Steve Farmartino
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 10:56 AM
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Thanks Jim. We are developing an update to avoid routing any offsite runoff into our proposed BMPs.

Thanks,

Steve Farmartino, PE
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From: Farkas, Jim J <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 9:24 AM
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See my replies below in red.

-Jim

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Jim,

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Can you please let me know which of the below statements is accurate? I’m trying to make sure I know exactly what are
options are and how to proceed.

- If any offsite drainage is routed into the proposed BMP it will need to be accounted for at its full build out
potential and a legal agreement is needed between property owners. Incorrect. However, if there is a legal
agreement in place between property owners, the off-site area will still need to be accounted for at its full build
out potential. The legal agreement between the property owners limits what the full build out potential of the
off-site property is. For example, the off-site area may currently be at 24% BUA and there is a legal agreement
that allows the off-site area to go up to 30% BUA at some point in the future. In this situation with the legal
agreement, the off-site area must be accounted for at 30% BUA (Full build out). Without the legal agreement in
place, the off-site areas will need to be accounted for at its full build out potential (The exact amount varies
based on the rules that the off-site property is subject to, but in most situations, the full-build out potential is
100% BUA).
- If any offsite drainage is routed into the proposed BMP and it is accounted for at its full build out potential, no
legal agreement is needed between property owners. Correct. Although it is strongly recommended in order to
avoid potential future legal issues for the permittee.
- If any offsite drainage is routed into the proposed BMP it can be accounted for in its pre development condition,
but a legal agreement is needed between property owners. Depends. If the legal agreement limits the off-site
area to its current level of BUA, then yes. As stated earlier, the off-site drainage area to an SCM must be
accounted for at its full build out potential, whatever that may be.
- Offsite drainage is bypassed and no legal agreement is needed between property owners. The pipe capacity
calculations are based on pre development conditions. Correct. Neither 15A NCAC 02H .1003(3)(b) nor 15A
NCAC 02H .1003(5) require off-site bypass to be accounted for at full build out potential. Ensuring that these
bypass pipes are compliant long term should not be an issue since, as you previously stated, local requirements
for this area regulate increases in peak runoff-rates for new development. Since pipe sizing calculations are
based on flow rate, and not volume, it is unlikely that future off-site development would necessitate up-sizing
the bypass pipe in the future.
Offsite drainage is bypassed and no legal agreement is needed between property owners. The pipe capacity
calculations are based on full build out potential. Incorrect.

Off-site drainage areas that are not bypassed around an SCM need to be accounted for in accordance with 15A NCAC
02H .1003(3)(b). The legal agreement is a mechanism to make compliance with 15A NCAC 02H .1003(3)(b) more easily
attainable and less nebulous.

Thanks,

Steve Farmartino, PE
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From: Farkas, Jim J <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 11:05 AM
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Steve,

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I know that intent of this project is not to treat any off-site BUA for credit. If you were planning on treating off-site BUA
for credit, I would have mentioned this comment sooner since our documents are fairly clear that a legal agreement
needs to be in place when treating off-site BUA for credit.

When I was doing the first two reviews, I was under the assumption that legal agreements between property owners
were only required if one property owner was treating BUA from another property owner for credit (Based on the
wording of the information in the SWU-101 Instructions document). Since this project was not treating off-site BUA for
credit, I did not mention the need for a legal agreement since, to my knowledge, it was not required. Sometime between
issuing the second and third round of comments, I received clarification from within the Department that all SCMs with
off-site drainage need to have either the legal agreement in place or be designed in accordance with 15A NCAC 02H
.1003(3)(b). The Department’s preferred option is to have the legal agreement in place as it is the best method for
ensuring long-term compliance with the permit, but 15A NCAC 02H .1003(3)(b) is also acceptable since it is statute.

-Jim

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Jim –Our intent is to not treat any offsite BUA for credit. Was there something in the updated forms or BUA table that
gave you the impression that we were?

Thanks,

Steve Farmartino, PE
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From: Farkas, Jim J <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 3:15 PM
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Steve,

If getting the legal agreement between the property owners is unwanted/impractical, you can design the SCMs under
the assumption that all of the off-site areas are built up to their full build-out potential (in accordance with 15A NCAC
02H .1003(3)(b)). While you are correct in stating that the rate of release from any future off-site development will need
to be at or below current levels (due to local rules), these local rules do not regulate the volume of water that is released
from a site. It is theoretically possible that the off-site properties could be developed in such a manner that the increase
in the volume of runoff from them could negatively impact the proposed on-site SCM as designed. If you proceed using
this method in lieu of the legal agreement, the design volumes will need to be recalculated assuming the fully built-out
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offsite areas and the ponds will need to be sized to handle these design volumes (NOTE: For this project, at the State
level, we do not require peak flow mitigation, just ensure that all of the Wet Pond MDCs are met).

As for why this wasn’t mentioned before, I, like you, was under the impression that if the on-site facility was not treating
off-site impervious areas for credit, then this agreement would not be needed and the facility could be designed for the
drainage area “as-is”. It has since been brought to my attention that this is not the case. The Department likes having
the legal agreement in place to limit the off-site BUA, but there are certain property owners (like NCDOT) that will not
enter into an agreement like this with a property owner so the above mentioned option is available. The wording that I
used in the request for additional information was taken from the SWU-101 Instructions (Found under “Standard
Permitting” at the following location: https://deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/energy-mineral-and-land-
resources/stormwater/stormwater-program/post-construction).

Let me know if you have any other questions,

-Jim

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Hey Jim,

Hope you’ve been doing well.

Thanks for sending over those comments. Everything seems straight forward but your request for legal agreements
between adjacent property owners.

This is a new comment and not something I’ve seen requested before when handling offsite runoff.

We are routing offsite runoff through our larger pond due to the natural topography of the site and surrounding
properties.

This offsite area will be routed to our pond, but the future development of those areas have not been accounted for in
our routing calculations. We are treating what is required due to the proposed apartment project BUA.

When the adjacent properties are developed, they will be responsible for treating all proposed BUA, limiting the peak
flows to pre-development conditions, and maintaining the natural drainage patters off the site per State and County law.

We have already submitted a notarized BMP maintenance agreement dictating party responsible for maintenance of
that BMP.

Do you have time to discuss this comment further? This appears to now be the last hurdle to get this job approved.

Thanks,

Steve Farmartino, PE
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From: Farkas, Jim J <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:57 AM
To: Steve Farmartino <[e-mail]>
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Subject: RE: Cambridge Village Multifamily - SW3191101

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Good Morning,
The Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources (DEMLR), received a Stormwater Management Permit Application
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for the subject project on February 19, 2020. A review of that information has determined that the application is not
complete. Attached is a letter describing the items that need to be submitted. If you have any questions, please feel free
to contact me. My contact information is listed below.
Thank you,

Jim Farkas
Environmental Engineer
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Energy, Mineral, & Land Resources – Stormwater Program

512 N. Salisbury Street
1612 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1612

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Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 3:59 PM
To: 'Steve Farmartino' <[e-mail]>
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Subject: RE: Cambridge Village Multifamily - SW3191101
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Good Afternoon,
The Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources (DEMLR), received a Stormwater Management Permit Application
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for the subject project on January 16, 2020. A review of that information has determined that the application is not
complete. Attached is a letter describing the items that need to be submitted. If you have any questions, please feel free
to contact me. My contact information is listed below.
Thank you,

Jim Farkas
Environmental Engineer
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Energy, Mineral, & Land Resources – Stormwater Program

512 N. Salisbury Street
1612 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1612

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From: Farkas, Jim J
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 9:46 AM
To: Steve Farmartino <[e-mail]>
Cc: Moore, James <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cambridge Village Multifamily - SW3191101

Good Afternoon,
The Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources (DEMLR), received a Stormwater Management Permit Application
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for the subject project on November 8, 2019. A review of that information has determined that the application is not
complete. Attached is a letter describing the items that need to be submitted. If you have any questions, please feel free
to contact me. My contact information is listed below.
Thank you,
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Jim Farkas
Environmental Engineer
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Energy, Mineral, & Land Resources – Stormwater Program

512 N. Sailsbury Street
1612 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1612

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