20200970 Ver 1_USACE More Info Requested_20200911

Strickland, Bev
From: Bailey, David E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 11:12 AM
To: Michael Brame
Cc: Homewood, Sue; Brian Shugart
Subject: [External] RE: Request for Additional Information - Cadence s/d, North Church Street,
Greensboro, Guilford County; SAW-2019-01893
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Hi Michael, and thanks for the additional information. We consider items 1, 3, 4, and 5 resolved from our 8/4/2020
request for additional information. However, it appears that there was some confusion regarding item 2 in our letter. As
such, I have attached a figure to show the general location referenced in this item and I will restate the question below:
2) The proposed road crossing is presented as necessary to access uplands for upland residential development. The need
for such access is not disputed, however you have not demonstrated avoidance and minimization to the maximum
extent practicable as required by NWP General Conditions 23(a) and (b). For example, it appears that the proposed road
crossing could be shifted to the north, such that the northern fill slope would be placed just south of Wetland WA31-40
and the associated large meander in Stream SA, resulting in significantly reduced wetland impacts and likely similar or
only slightly increased stream impacts. It appears that the road and lot design could be shifted to accommodate such a
change in road alignment to still allow for a similar scale residential development. Please re -design accordingly, or
provide documentation that such avoidance and minimization measures are not practicable (i.e. available and capable of
being done after taking into consideration cost, existing technology, and logistics in light of overall project purposes);
Also, if the above can be resolved, at the currently proposed crossing location at least 1 at -grade floodplain culvert pipe
is needed to maintain a hydrological connection throughout the wetland (per NWP 29 Regional Conditions 3.6.1-3.6.3)
due to the relatively wide geomorphic floodplain containing riparian wetlands. The Corps recommends that this
floodplain culvert pipe be aligned with the existing overflow channel/braid on the eastern side of the proposed crossing.
If item 2 above can be resolved, please provide an updated plan/profile sheet accordingly.
Please submit the requested information above (via e-mail is fine) within 30 days of receipt of this Notification, and let
me know if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Dave Bailey
David E. Bailey, PWS
Regulatory Project Manager
US Army Corps of Engineers
CE-SAW-RG-R
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, North Carolina 27587

Phone: [phone], Ext. 30.
Fax: [phone]
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From: Michael Brame <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 7:07 AM
To: Bailey, David E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Homewood, Sue
<[e-mail]>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: Request for Additional Information - Cadence s/d, North Church Street, Greensboro,
Guilford County; SAW-2019-01893
Good Morning David and Sue,
We were able to meet the September 1, 2020 deadline. I was not sure I was going to make it. Please find attached the
applicants response to your e-mail requests for additional information for the referenced project. Please let me know if
you need additional information in order to process the PCN. Thank -you.
Sincerely,
Michael T. Brame
336.708-4620 (c)
336.310.4527 (o)
PO Box 128
Kernersville, NC 27285
www.pilotenviro.com
mbrame(@Dilotenviro.com
From: Michael Brame
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 8:10 PM
To: Bailey, David E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Request for Additional Information - Cadence s/d, North Church Street, Greensboro, Guilford County; SAW-
2019-01893
Please extend the deadline to Tuesday, September 2. Thank you.
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On Aug 19, 2020, at 8:34 AM, Bailey, David E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)
<[e-mail]> wrote:
Thanks Michael. I will extend our response deadline to September 1, 2020.
-Dave Bailey
David E. Bailey, PWS
Regulatory Project Manager

US Army Corps of Engineers
CE-SAW-RG-R
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, North Carolina 27587
Phone: [phone], Ext. 30.
Fax: [phone]
Email: [e-mail]
We would appreciate your feedback on how we are performing our duties. Our automated Customer
Service Survey is located at: Blockedhttp://corpsmapu.usace.army.mil/cm apex/f?p=136:4:0
Thank you for taking the time to visit this site and complete the survey.
From: Michael Brame <[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 3:25 PM
To: Bailey, David E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA) <[e-mail]>; Homewood, Sue
<[e-mail]>
Cc: Brian Shugart <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: Request for Additional Information - Cadence s/d, North Church Street,
Greensboro, Guilford County; SAW-2019-01893
Good Afternoon David and Sue,
We are working to address the concerns. We hope to have a response within two weeks.
Sincerely,
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Michael T. Brame
336.708-4620 (c)
336.310.4527 (o)
PO Box 128
Kernersville, NC 27285
www.pilotenviro.com
[e-mail]
From: Bailey, David E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)<[e-mail]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 2:43 PM
To: Michael Brame <[e-mail]>; Brian Shugart <[e-mail]>
Cc: Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Request for Additional Information - Cadence s/d, North Church Street, Greensboro,
Guilford County; SAW-2019-01893
Hi Michael. One other item I neglected to include in my earlier email today:
5) Given recent USFWS concerns regarding suitable Schweinitz's sunflower and small whorled pogonia
habitat, please complete a pedestrian survey for these species within the Corps ESA action area. In this
case, the Corps ESA action area would be contained within a 100 foot radius of the footprint of
proposed impacts to waters of the US, including the currently proposed footprint and any revised
footprint if project plans are changed per item # 2 in my earlier email. Following the survey, please
provide the survey report to the Corps (copy also the USFWS) for review. Of course, if you do not believe
that any suitable habitat exists in the Action area for these species, please provide a justification so that
the corps could evaluate the potential for a No Effect determination.

Please direct any questions regarding the Corps ESA action area to me. Please direct any questions
regarding appropriate survey techniques and information to include in a survey report to John Ellis with
the USFWS.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
-Dave Bailey
David E. Bailey, PWS
Regulatory Project Manager
US Army Corps of Engineers
CE-SAW-RG-R
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, North Carolina 27587
Phone: [phone], Ext. 30.
Fax: [phone]
Email: [e-mail]
We would appreciate your feedback on how we are performing our duties. Our automated Customer
Service Survey is located at: BlockedBlockedhttp://corpsmapu.usace.army.miI/cm apex/f?p=136:4:0
Thank you for taking the time to visit this site and complete the survey.
From: Bailey, David E CIV USARMY CESAW (USA)
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 2:31 PM
To: Michael Brame <[e-mail]>; Brian Shugart <[e-mail]>
Cc: Homewood, Sue <[e-mail]>
Subject: Request for Additional Information - Cadence s/d, North Church Street, Greensboro, Guilford
County; SAW-2019-01893
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Thank you for your PCN and attached information, dated 7/27/2020, for the above referenced project. I
have reviewed the information and need clarification before proceeding with verifying the use of
Nationwide Permit (NWP) 29 (BlockedBlockedhttp://saw-
reg.usace.army.mil/NWP2017/2017NWP29.pdf). Please submit the requested information below (via e-
mail is fine) within 30 days of receipt of this Notification, otherwise we may deny verification of the use
of the Nationwide Permit or consider your application withdrawn and close the file:
1) The Corps issued a Preliminary Jurisdictional Determination (PJD) for this project on 5/21/2020.
In comparing the PJD map with the project plans (Sheets 1 and 2) it is clear that the
location/meanders of Stream SA are shown in slightly different locations. On the PJD map,
Stream SA closely aligns to the stream channel location shown in QL2 LiDAR data, while the
stream location on Sheets 1 and 2 appears to miss several meanders, including meanders within
the proposed Cadence Drive stream crossing. Update the stream location on Sheets 1 and 2
according to stream location data from the PJD map and update the proposed stream impacts
on the plans/PCN accordingly, or confirm field conditions in this location and provide
photographs showing that the stream location at the proposed crossing matches the Sheet 1
and 2 locations;
2) The proposed road crossing is presented as necessary to access uplands for upland residential
development. The need for such access is not disputed, however you have not demonstrated

avoidance and minimization to the maximum extent practicable as required by NWP General
Conditions 23(a) and (b). For example, it appears that the proposed road crossing could be
shifted to the north, such that the northern fill slope would be placed just south of Wetland
WA31-40 and the associated large meander in Stream SA, resulting in significantly reduced
wetland impacts and likely similar or reduced impacts to streams. It appears that the road and
lot design could be shifted to accommodate such a change in road alignment to still allow for a
similar scale residential development. Please re -design accordingly, or provide documentation
that such avoidance and minimization measures are not practicable (i.e. available and capable of
being done after taking into consideration cost, existing technology, and logistics in light of
overall project purposes);
3) The rip rap pad proposed in Stream SA is considerably longer than typical for similar road
crossings, nearly as long as the culvert itself. Please provide justification for a rip rap pad of this
length, noting that we may consider a rip rap pad of this length as more than minimal and view
these impacts as a loss of aquatic function;
4) Please provide across -section view of the rip rap pad to demonstrate how the feature will
comply with NWP 29 Regional Condition 3.6.4 (see attached picture as an example).
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Dave Bailey
David E. Bailey, PWS
Regulatory Project Manager
US Army Corps of Engineers
CE-SAW-RG-R
3331 Heritage Trade Drive, Suite 105
Wake Forest, North Carolina 27587
Phone: [phone], Ext. 30.
Fax: [phone]
Email: [e-mail]
We would appreciate your feedback on how we are performing our duties. Our automated Customer
Service Survey is located at: BlockedBlockedhttp://corpsmapu.usace.army.mil/cm apex/f?p=136:4:0
Thank you for taking the time to visit this site and complete the survey.

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