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Strickland, Bev
From: Mairs, Robb L
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 8:23 AM
To: Williams, Kim
Subject: RE: [External] Fwd: 4707 S. Shore; Morehead City; Perry Management Tract; Carteret
County
Hey Kim, sorry for the delayed response. Does this proposal include impacting the cat -tails on the backside of the
marsh, and has coastal management verified the coastal wetlands boundary?
Thanks,
From: Williams, Kim [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 1:39 PM
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Hey Robb
I wanted to follow back up with you regarding the site at 4707 S. Shore in Morehead City and let you know that
I plan to submit a PCN for the proposed wetland impacts (0.02 acre). Let me know if you had any additional
feedback regarding the photos I sent.
Thanks!
Kim
Kim Williams I Environmental Scientist
Land Management Group I Environmental Consultants
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3805 Wrightsville Ave., Suite 15 I Wilmington, NC 28403
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On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:27 AM Williams, Kim <kwilliamskhngroup.net> wrote:
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Hi Robb
Attached are a couple of photos from the site that were recently taken. Being that it's spring time, vegetation is
popping up and it's harder to see the erosion. According to our client, it is worse in the winter months when
vegetation recedes. Since there are stabilization structures on either side of the property, this erosion is
expected to continue.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks!
Kim
Kim Williams I Environmental Scientist
Land Management Group I Environmental Consultants
Direct: 910-452-0001 x 1908 1 Cell: 910.471.5035 1 Fax: [phone]
3805 Wrightsville Ave., Suite 15 I Wilmington, NC 28403
Email: kwilliamsL&Jmgroup.net I Website: www.1mu�roup.net llmgroup.netl
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:13 AM Mairs, Robb L <robb. mairs kncdenr. gov> wrote:
Hey Kim,
Thanks for the email and I hope you and your family are well too. You are correct, since this property is adjacent to
SA;HQW of Bogue Sound, this proposal will require written approval from the DWR (see GC 4139). Based on aerial
photography review, I'm not seeing evidence of an active erosion escarpment, and appears stabilized with
vegetation. Do you have photographs or other information to support this claim?
Thanks,
Robb Mairs
Environmental Specialist II
Division of Water Resources
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality

910 796.7303 office
robb.mairsa-ncdenr.gov
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Wilmington, NC 28405
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From: Williams, Kim [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 4:56 PM
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Hi Robb
I hope you are doing well and staying healthy! Larry Baldwin flagged a site located at 4707 S. Shore Drive in
Morehead City recently and is currently working on the JD request package. He delineated a freshwater
wetland, coastal wetland, and normal high water line that runs adjacent to Bogue Sound. The site has an
erosional escarpment mainly caused by adjacent stabilization efforts on the adjacent properties (rip rap to the
west and bulkhead to east). The owners would like to stabilize an area with the largest escarpment (3-4 feet)

with a bulkhead and then fill behind it. This would impact around 0.02 acre of freshwater wetlands (see
attached sketch).
I emailed Tom Charles this info to get his feedback before I sent in the NWP 18 application (all proposed
work would be outside of CAMA AEC). He said that because of the small amount of wetland fill, no permit
would be required from them. Would that be the same situation for DWR? Since these wetlands are adjacent
to SA waters, I'm thinking a 401 WQC may be needed. But then again, I was surprised by Tom's answer, so
maybe I'll be surprised by your answer as well!
Thanks!
Kim
Kim Williams I Environmental Scientist
Land Management Group I Environmental Consultants
Direct: 910-452-0001 x 1908 1 Cell: 910.471.5035 I Fax: [phone]
3805 Wrightsville Ave., Suite 15 I Wilmington, NC 28403
Email: kwilliamsklmproup.n I Website: www.hnproup.net 11ra roup.netl