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Home My WebLink AboutNCG500622_Correspondence_20200610Weaver, Charles From: Jeffrey Madden <jmadden@aarcgroup.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 10:31 AM To: Weaver, Charles Subject: [External] RE: [EXTERNAL]RE: Questions about permitting and biocides / Purina facility - Statesville External email. Do not click links or open attachments unless you verify. Send all suspicious email as an attachment to report.spam@nc.gov Charles, Thank you for your input and verification of the 7Q10 data. We are currently considering the options. Thanks, Jeffrey Jeffrey Madden, P.G. (GA) Geologist AARC Environmental jmadden@aarcgroup.com Mobile: (404) 375-5050 Office: 833-493-2272 Fax: 833-771-2272 4751 Best Road, Ste. 480 Atlanta, GA 30337 From: Weaver, Charles <charles.weaver@ncdenr.gov> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 9:10 AM To: Bell, Wes <wes.bell@ncdenr.gov>; Headrick, Hannah <hannah.headrick@ncdenr.gov> Cc: Jeffrey Madden <jmadden@aarcgroup.com> Subject: [EXTERNAL]RE: Questions about permitting and biocides / Purina facility - Statesville [Sender is EXTERNAL to AARC] Wes, thanks for confirming what I suspected. This discharge can probably be eliminated with the installation of a different disposal system. Hannah — as I said in my message yesterday, the CoC number for the Purina facility is NCG500622. (NCG500633 was the CoC for Craftique, LLC in Alamance County. It's been Inactive for years.) Mr. Madden — the consultant for the facility — can tell you if the facility has discharged, and when. Discharge records for CoCs of this type are to be kept on -site. He's copied on this email. Mr. Madden — as Wes Bell's email documents, the facility discharges to an unnamed tributary to Third Creek. The discharge point has very low flow, and the Division uses 0 cfs for discharges to unnamed tributaries. If you wish to explore this further, the Division can request a 7Q10 flow evaluation of the tributary from the USGS. I suggest you speak with Wes Bell about the non -discharging alternative he describes. That would be better for everyone. CHW From: Bell, Wes <wes.bell@ncdenr.gov> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 8:46 AM To: Headrick, Hannah <hannah.headrick@ncdenr.gov>; Weaver, Charles <charles.weaver@ncdenr.gov> Subject: RE: Questions about permitting and biocides The Purina Mills in Iredell Co. does have a discharge and I've had them in the past submit this biocide worksheet, and it'is probably them again. The biocide & boiler blowdown discharges into a small basin with aeration then discharges into stormwater ditch prior to stream. The discharge flow is very low and it is doubtful the discharge reaches the stream. The company could look into an evaporative type non -discharge system if they don't want a discharge permit. Wes Bell Env. Specialist II Mooresville Regional Office Water Quality Regional Operations Section NCDEQ-Division of Water Resources (704) 663-1699 Office (704) 235-2192 Office Direct Line Email: wes.bell@ncdenr.gov 610 East Center Avenue Suite 301 Mooresville, NC 28115 From: Headrick, Hannah Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 8:35 AM To: Weaver, Charles <charles.weaver@ncdenr.gov> Cc: Bell, Wes <wes.bell@ncdenr.gov> Subject: RE: Questions about permitting and biocides Charles — I dug around a little bit more on these sheets. Perhaps they had an error on one of them. Please try the permit number NCG500633/003 and see if it has ever had a discharge. Thanks!! Hannah Headrick Environmental Biologist Division of Water Resources Department of Environmental Quality Based on the current guidance to minimize the spread of COVID-19, the Department of Environmental Quality has adjusted operations to protect the health and safety of the staff and public. Many employees are working remotely or are on staggered shifts. To accommodate these staffing changes, all DEQ office locations are limiting public access to appointments only. Please check with the appropriate staff before visiting our offices, as we may be able to handle your requests by phone or email. We appreciate your patience as we continue to serve the public during this challenging time. Email AT Forms to Hannah at: ATForms.ATB@ncdenr.gov Please note new number - 919 743 8439 hannah.head rick(abncdenr.gov Mailing: 1621 Mail Services Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1621 Physical: 4401 Reedy Creek Road, Raleigh, NC 27607 Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. From: Weaver, Charles Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 4:43 PM To: Headrick, Hannah <hannah.headrick@ncdenr.gov> Cc: Bell, Wes <wes.bell@ncdenr.Bov> Subject: RE: Questions about permitting and biocides There is no Certificate of Coverage (CoC) numbered NCG500563. Purina Animal Nutrition has a facility in Iredell County with a Stormwater CoC: NCG060306. That company doesn't have an NPDES [discharge] permit / CoC. There is a Purina Mills, LLC facility in Iredell County with CoC NCG500622. Can you send me a scan of the biocide form? And yes, if the facility does not discharge to surface waters, the CoC can be rescinded. The Regional Office would have to agree, but they usually do if we can get rid of another discharge. CHW From: Headrick, Hannah <hannah.head rick@ncdenr.gov> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 4:19 PM To: Weaver, Charles <charles.weaver@ncdenr.gov> Subject: RE: Questions about permitting and biocides Charles — For question number 2 — the facility is Purina Animal Nutrition, LLC (NCG500563/003). Please let me know if this facility has ever discharged, and maybe even through this specific outfall. Thanks! And, could the completely rescind their discharge permit, or even for this outfall, if they don't plan on discharging in the future as a means to avoid biocide review? Thanks!! Hannah Hannah Headrick Environmental Biologist Division of Water Resources Department of Environmental Quality Based on the current guidance to minimize the spread of COVID-19, the Department of Environmental Quality has adjusted operations to protect the health and safety of the staff and public. Many employees are working remotely or are on staggered shifts. To accommodate these staffing changes, all DEQ office locations are limiting public access to appointments only. Please check with the appropriate staff before visiting our offices, as we may be able to handle your requests by phone or email. We appreciate your patience as we continue to serve the public during this challenging time. Email AT Forms to Hannah at: ATForms.ATB@ncdenr.Bov Please note new number - 919 743 8439 hannah.head rick(abncdenr.gov Mailing: 1621 Mail Services Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1621 Physical: 4401 Reedy Creek Road, Raleigh, NC 27607 Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. From: Weaver, Charles Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 4:13 PM To: Headrick, Hannah <hannah.headrick@ncdenr.gov> Subject: RE: Questions about permitting and biocides The short answer: 1. 1 have no idea. 2. Yes, we can determine if a plant has ever discharged. Send me the permit numbers and let me know which question applies to which permit. CHW From: Headrick, Hannah <hannah.head rick@ncdenr.gov> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 3:59 PM To: Weaver, Charles <charles.weaver@ncdenr.gov> Subject: Questions about permitting and biocides Charles — Good afternoon. There are two biocide reviews that me and Cindy have been working on for weeks now. We have been in contact with the facility representatives that submitted the information and have received additional information beyond what was originally submitted. That said, we cannot find a way for the proposed chemicals to obtain a Passing result. There are a few questions that we have, trying to find a way to approve usage of these chemicals: 1. Has Permitting ever put a cooling water plant under Acute limits for Aquatic Toxicity? We ask because we cant get biocide approval in our worksheet with the values provided nor can we find a way to associate use of the chemicals with a parameter in the existing permit. 2. We cannot find that one of the facilities has ever discharged? Is there a way for us to learn if it has ever discharged? If the facility has never discharged, could the facility rescind its permit so that it would not have to obtain biocide approval to use the proposed chemicals? Thank you for your help! Hannah Hannah Headrick Environmental Biologist Division of Water Resources Department of Environmental Quality Based on the current guidance to minimize the spread of COVID-19, the Department of Environmental Quality has adjusted operations to protect the health and safety of the staff and public. Many employees are working remotely or are on staggered shifts. To accommodate these staffing changes, all DEQ office locations are limiting public access to appointments only. Please check with the appropriate staff before visiting our offices, as we may be able to handle your requests by phone or email. We appreciate your patience as we continue to serve the public during this challenging time. Email AT Forms to Hannah at: ATForms.ATB@ncdenr.gov Please note new number - 919 743 8439 hannah.headrick�ncdenr.gov Mailing: 1621 Mail Services Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1621 Physical: 4401 Reedy Creek Road, Raleigh, NC 27607 Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.