20191251_Ocracoke e-mails in response to WRC comments_20200325

-----Original Message -----
From: Williams, Paul C
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:42 AM
To: Brittingham, Cathy <[e-mail]>; Wilson, Travis W. <[e-mail]>
Cc: [e-mail]; Daisey, Greg <[e-mail]>; Henry, Sabrina <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Request to Modify CAMA Permit No. 24-03 - Alternative Sandbags for Ocracoke Dune Project
Travis,
Also, NCDOT would use this as a temporary measure while a long term solution is determined, funded, and
constructed. Currently, a Feasibility Study is being finalized by the Ferry Division on moving South Dock to the
middle of Ocracoke Island. With that in place, these alternative sandbags would be removed from NC12.
Thanks,
Paul C. Williams, Jr.
Division Environmental Officer
Division One
NC Department of Transportation
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Edenton, NC 27932
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-----Original Message -----
From: Williams, Paul C
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:31 AM
To: Brittingham, Cathy <[e-mail]>; Wilson, Travis W. <[e-mail]>
Cc: [e-mail]; Daisey, Greg <[e-mail]>; Henry, Sabrina <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Request to Modify CAMA Permit No. 24-03 - Alternative Sandbags for Ocracoke Dune Project
Travis,
Thanks for your comments. Any fill used for the alternative sandbags would be beach compatible sand from
onsite or an approved offsite source. Onsite would be from overwash or windblown sand within the easement.
Thanks,
Paul C. Williams, Jr.
Division Environmental Officer
Division One
NC Department of Transportation
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[e-mail]
113 Airport Dr.
Suite 100
Edenton, NC 27932
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-----Original Message -----
From: Brittingham, Cathy <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:37 AM
To: Wilson, Travis W. <[e-mail]>; Williams, Paul C <[e-mail]>
Cc: [e-mail]; Daisey, Greg <[e-mail]>; Henry, Sabrina <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Request to Modify CAMA Permit No. 24-03 - Alternative Sandbags for Ocracoke Dune Project
Yes, it is my understanding that this would require a CRC variance if it were to be approved.
Prior to going to the CRC for consideration, DCM would need to accept a permit modification request as
complete, and circulate to the relevant agencies for review, which would likely be WRC, DMF, USFWS, NPS,
SHPO, DWR and USACE, at a minimum.
Cathy Brittingham, Transportation Project Coordinator N.C. Division of Coastal Management
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c/o DWR Transportation Permitting Unit
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Raleigh, NC 27699-1617
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512 North Salisbury Street
Archdale Building
12th Floor, Room 1204C
Raleigh, NC 27604
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-----Original Message -----
From: Wilson, Travis W.
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:29 AM
To: Williams, Paul C <[e-mail]>; Brittingham, Cathy <[e-mail]>
Cc: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: Request to Modify CAMA Permit No. 24-03 - Alternative Sandbags for Ocracoke Dune Project
I've had some internal conversation regarding the use of this type of product. There are some pros and cons
that have been discussed. Reducing or eliminating equipment and dredging on the beach face is obviously a
great benefit to the resource. However, the use of upland material to fill the cells opens the door for non -
compatible beach material to be used. I know NCDOT's letter states it could/would use overwash sand, but I
can see the circumstance where there is not enough overwash material to fill the bags and build the dunes,
etc. As we have seen over the years it is likely that at some point the bags will be overtopped, undermined,
rupture, or emptied for removal at which time the material will be on the beach. Therefore if this is allowed
WRC would like to see a requirement to use beach compatible material to fill the bags.
There is also a broader concern that because of the size of this product it is not temporary in nature and will
function as a more long-term solution. With that in mind, if allowed here it would open the door for use
outside of protecting NC 12. Will this have to go in front of the CRC for a variance?
Travis W. Wilson
Eastern Region Highway Project Coordinator
Habitat Conservation Program
NC Wildlife Resources Commission
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Creedmoor, NC 27522
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