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HomeMy WebLinkAboutNC0036641_Wasteload Allocation_20160406Sledge, Bob From: Davidson, Landon Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 7:34 AM To: Sledge, Bob; Rodriguez, Teresa Subject: RE: Fletcher Academy meeting Thank you Bob and Teresa. This will be very helpful in moving forward. I'll keep you posted. Landon G. Landon Davidson, P.G. Regional Supervisor — Asheville Regional Office Water Quality Regional Operations Section NCDEQ — Division of Water Resources 828 296 4680 office 828 230 4057 mobile Landon. Davidson@ncdenr.gov 2090 U.S. Hwy. 70 Swannanoa, N.C. 28711 Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. From: Sledge, Bob Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 6:32 AM To: Davidson, Landon <landon.davidson@ncdenr.gov>; Rodriguez, Teresa <Teresa.Rodriguez@ncdenr.gov> Cc: Heim, Tim <Tim.Heim @ncdenr.gov> Subject: RE: Fletcher Academy meeting Hi Landon, Teresa was kind enough to run the Level B model again, based upon inputs that existed in the file. The results of this new run of the model indicated that the discharge from the site at the current permit limits for BOD and NH3 should not have a detrimental effect on the receiving stream in terms of removal of dissolved oxygen. Therefore, if the facility was to put in a new WWTP at the same flow limits, the only changes that would need to be made to the permit would be to lower the TSS limits from their current levels (90 & 135 mg/L) for lagoon discharges to the standard 30 & 45 mg/L concentrations for monthly average and daily maximum. They should be made aware that if they would desire to expand the plant and increase discharge capacity, they would be subject to the permitting strategy for the Mud Creek watershed and would have limits of 10 mg/L for BOD, 2 mg/L for NH3, and 6.0 mg/L for D.O. imposed. I'm still surprised that this is presented as an issue unless they were thinking we were looking at very low potential limits. I can't imagine they'd consider installing a WWTP that wouldn't be designed to consistently meet 10 mg/L BOD and 2 mg/L NH3; contemporary, well run package plants typically perform much better than that. If they'd be installing a 0.1 MGD package plant, I'd expect it to be of such design as to discharge a very high quality effluent, and not simply meeting permit limits. If there is some concern that the discharge from the hospital is something more than just domestic flow, and that it may be affecting the treatment performance in the existing system, it would probably affect any other plant they may install. At some point (if it hasn't been done already), it may be beneficial for them to do some type of comprehensive analysis of the flow from the hospital to let them and us know what they're dealing with. Have a fine day up there! Bob E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. From: Davidson, Landon Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:59 AM To: Sledge, Bob <bob.sledge@ncdenr.gov>; Berry, Ron <ron.berrv@ncdenr.gov>; Rodriguez, Teresa <Teresa.Rodriguez@ ncdenr.gov> Cc: Heim, Tim <Tim.Heim@ncdenr.gov> Subject: RE: Fletcher Academy meeting Thanks Bob, no rush here. Let's just discuss when you return. I'm in field all day today but in Thursday and Friday. Landon G. Landon Davidson, P.G. Regional Supervisor —Asheville Regional Office Water Quality Regional Operations Section NCDEQ — Division of Water Resources 828 296 4680 office 828 230 4057 mobile Landon. Davidson d)ncdenr.gov 2090 U.S. Hwy. 70 Swannanoa, KC. 28711 : Nothing Compares.-�.n. Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. From: Sledge, Bob Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:04 AM To: Davidson, Landon <landon.davidson@ncdenr.gov>; Berry, Ron <ron.berrv@ncdenr.gov>; Rodriguez, Teresa <Teresa.Rodriguez@ ncdenr.,gov> Cc: Heim, Tim <Tim.Heim@ncdenr.jzov> Subject: Re: Fletcher Academy meeting Good Morning, I'm sorry I missed your note yesterday. We were visiting with my in-laws during the day and I didn't see the message until late in the evening. I'm not sure what we can do in a concrete fashion very quickly. As we noted last year, Tom Belnick's crew would have to examine the record and work on the model to establish any new limits that would be imposed with construction of a new WWTP. Just from recollection, I don't think they'd be looking at anything a well run, contemporary package plant couldn't provide, but a closer look at the waste stream from the hospital may lead us to include additional monitoring parameters. I don't have access to any of the files here. I believe they're in my office (somewhere). I'm copying Teresa Rodriguez and Ron Berry on this. Perhaps they can find the files and look at them and come up with some ideas. Unfortunately, I'm going to be busy today beginning in just a few minutes trying to burn the debris that fell in our ice storm. this will be my only chance this week to do it and do it safely. I'll get back in touch. should be able to talk sometime tomorrow, because the forecast is for rain by midday. hope all is well with you and yours. Talk to you soon. From: Davidson, Landon Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:44 AM To: Sledge, Bob Cc: Heim, Tim Subject: FW: Fletcher Academy meeting Bob - Sorry to pound your Inbox while you are out. We are in need of further refinement (i.e., assurance) in obtaining permit limits for the Fletcher Academy. This will allow their engineers to further refine design and costs related to installation of a new WWTP. Fletcher Academy will in the coming weeks submit a letter to County Comm. indicating the amount they can afford to contribute toward running a County sewer line. Currently, Fletcher and the County appear to be about $500K apart on making connection happen. That said, Fletcher Academy is wanting to look very hard at what their permit limits would be for a new facility given the costs involved with connection (i.e., running line, connection fees, etc.). We would do a quick conference call no this provide further detail perhaps but to refine their costs, they are wanting hard permit limit estimates. I really feel the connection to County sewer will ultimately workout but we have to be prepared for Plan B. Thanks Bob. Let me know when we all three can discuss. The challenging part is that this discharges to a 303(d) listed stream and is a fairly large hospital attached to it. Landon G. Landon Davidson, P.G. Regional Supervisor— Asheville Regional Office Water Quality Regional Operations Section NCDEQ — Division of Water Resources 828 296 4680 office 828 230 4057 mobile Landon. Davidson (cDncdenr.gov 2090 U.S. Hwy. 70 Swannanoa, N.C. 28711 Nothing Compares.. — Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. From: Davidson, Landon Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 8:56 AM To: Heim, Tim <Tim. Heim@ ncdenr. ov> Subject: RE: Fletcher Academy meeting Yes, go ahead with a summary. At some point, they'll need to move forward with the information they have and perhaps simply use alternative costs estimates based on potential additional treatment. Thanks. G. Landon Davidson, P.G. Regional Supervisor — Asheville Regional Office Water Quality Regional Operations Section NCDEQ — Division of Water Resources 828 296 4680 office 828 230 4057 mobile Landon. Davidson(c)ncdenr.gov 2090 U.S. Hwy. 70 Swannanoa, N.C. 28711 Kfc- . �'Nothing Compares, --,- Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. From: Heim, Tim Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 8:44 AM To: Davidson, Landon <landon.davidson@ncdenr.gov> Subject: FW: Fletcher Academy meeting FYI, What do you think about me sending Fletcher's Engineer a summary of the below, and letting him decide if he wants to do a budgetary estimate based on the conservative permits numbers now, or wait until he gets the revised model results (he could also do a budgetary estimate based on both permit limit potentials now and see which one he ends up with). That way he has as much lead time to get started as we can provide. I also asked Sledge what kind of timeframe we are looking at for the revised model. -T 4 Tim Heim, P.E. Environmental Engineer —Asheville Regional Office Water Quality Regional Operations Section NCDEQ — Division of Water Resources 828 296 4500 office email: ti_m_.heim@ncdenr.gov 2090 U.S. Hwy. 70 Swannanoa, N.C. 28778 Noth€rtg Compares »,.. Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. From: Sledge, Bob Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 8:34 AM To: Heim, Tim <Tim.Heim@ncdenr.gov> Subject: RE: Fletcher Academy meeting Hi Tim, The big issue in looking at potential limits in this case will be with regard to TSS. Currently the permit includes old categorical limits for lagoon systems (90 mg/L monthly average & 135 mg/L daily maximum). With a new system installed, these would surely go down to 30 & 45 mg/L. The rest of the matter isn't so clear. We have data from an old model developed when the facility once asked for expanded flow that just looks odd. It is recommended that we rerun the model to get a better idea of what the BOD and ammonia limits ought to be. It could be that the existing limits for each would still work. However, file data shows we had implemented a permitting strategy at some point in the past for new and expanding discharges into Mud Creek and its tributaries that capped BOD and ammonia limits at 10 &2 as monthly averages. This was in response to observed problems in the watershed, perhaps exacerbated at the time by Hendersonville's discharge. Mud Creek is still 303d listed. I haven't looked at Fletcher's data. I know they've had recent compliance problems and there's historical reference to low DO in the receiving stream (Byers Creek). Even though I don't hear that they want expanded flow, there's a chance those limits may come into play here. We're going to rerun the model and see what it says. I don't know exactly when that will happen, but it shouldn't be as difficult as some because we have existing inputs, and maybe can be done sooner rather than later. In the meantime, I personally don't think it would be unreasonable under the circumstances to tell their consultant that they ought to initially aim for the stricter limits. For contemporary package plants, those limits shouldn't be a problem to meet. Additionally, I don't know if at some point we'd want to re -characterize the wastewater coming to the WWTP. The facility serves a hospital; though the flow is said to be 100% domestic, I'd be curious about other stuff that might get poured down drains, etc. It's not much of an answer. Hopefully there'll be more to come. I don't want to give anyone artificial bad news, but I'd also like to encourage them to pursue the connection as much as possible. Thanks for your patience. Bob E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. From: Heim, Tim Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 2:52 PM To: Sledge, Bob <bob.sledge@ncdenr.gov> Subject: FW: Fletcher Academy meeting Bob, I've been in and out of interviews all day, and am off tomorrow, but we wanted to get your input on the situation below and the permit limits a package plant for Fletcher might need to consider in the design (for a budgetary estimate). I can explain further if you want more context. Hope all is well. -Tim Tim Heim, P.E. Environmental Engineer —Asheville Regional Office Water Quality Regional Operations Section NCDEQ — Division of Water Resources 828 296 4500 office email: tim.heim(&ncdenr.gov 2090 U.S. Hwy. 70 Swannanoa, N.C. 28778 �.': 3othing Compares---.,, Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. From: Will Buie f mailto:wbuie@wgla.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:28 AM To: Davidson, Landon <landon.davidson@ncdenr.gov> Cc: Heim, Tim <Tim.Heim@ncdenr.gov>; 'Gary Carlson' <GCarlson@fletcheracademy.com> Subject: RE: Fletcher Academy meeting Landon and Tim, Thank you for your time this morning. To quickly summarize our discussion: -FAI's Board has authorized Gary Carlson to enter into negotiations with Henderson County about connecting to the Cane Creek sewer system. -Gary and I have met with the County (Marcus Jones) to discuss the connection and a contribution by FAI to the cost of the sewer extension. -This informal offer has been discussed with County staff. -Based on the pending merger between Cane Creek and MSD, Marcus has presented the project to MSD. The County wants to make sure MSD is aware of the project along with the fact that the County/District would have to borrow money to fund a large portion of the sewer extension. -MSD has requested water usage information from FAI, and that will be provided this week. -Henderson County has indicated the next step in this process is for FAI to present a formal written request to connect to the Cane Creek sewer system. With this request, FAI would provide their offer of a contribution to the cost of the sewer extension. This contribution should ideally be based on the estimated cost for any other alternative for wastewater treatment and disposal. That leads to our request to you. As we discussed in our meeting in late August, we believe the construction of a package treatment facility is likely the next best option for FAI. To provide a cost estimate for this option, we will need some indication of the discharge limits that might be considered by DEQ. At this time, any information on discharge limits would be used only for cost estimating purposes. Once we have some idea of discharge limits, we will prepare a cost estimate for FAI. They will use this cost estimate to prepare their formal offer of a contribution to the sewer line extension. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Thanks, Will William R. Buie, P.E. WGLA Engineering, PLLC 214 N. King Street Hendersonville, NC 28792 (828) 687 - 7177 ext. 302 wbuie(o-)wgla.com From: Davidson, Landon [mailto:landon.davidson ncdenr. ov] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 4:58 PM To: Will Buie (wbuie(&wgla.com); dwackCafletcheracademy.com Cc: Heim, Tim; Price, Bev Subject: Fletcher Academy meeting Thank you for providing us with additional information regarding options for the subject facility. I've attached a template for a compliance agreement which is one potential tool with regard to covering the facility under an EPA recognized agreement while we continue to evaluate options. As stated in the meeting, an SOC is premature at this phase simply because we do not have an agreed up option to pursue. Please understand that the Division has not yet agreed to a compliance agreement at this time but it is an option we are evaluating. Additional penalties and notices may be levied based on continuing violations. A compliance agreement typically includes a penalty for non-compliance and usually requires compliance or application for an SOC at the termination of the agreement. To formulate an agreement, we would need to incorporate specific milestones into the document which may also be a challenge to draft at this phase but perhaps in the coming month(s). Tim is continuing to explore the other items on our list with regard to funding and potential limits if a new NPDES permit or modification were sought. A very preliminary discussion suggests reductions to the following limits: BOD —10 and TSS 30/45. Please do not use these numbers for any evaluation or calculations at this time as these are very preliminary. Please also understand that our preferred option is connection to municipal sewer. The Division will continue to support your efforts moving toward that goal. Sincerely, Landon G. Landon Davidson, P.G. NCDENR - Division of Water Resources Water Quality Regional Operations Section Regional Supervisor - Asheville Regional Office 2090 U.S. Hwy. 70 Swannanoa, N.C. 28778 ph.: 828-296-4500 fax: 828-299-7043 email: landon.davidson@ncdenr.gov website: www.ncwaterguality.org Need help with other DENR permits? http://portal.ncdenr.org/web/deao/permit-directory Notice: Per Executive Order No. 150, all emails sent to and from this account are subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. IWC Calculations Fletcher Academy NC0036641 Prepared By: Bob Sledge, C&EP Unit Enter Design Flow (MGD): 0.1 Enter s7Q10(cfs): 0.56 Enter w7Q10 (cfs): 0.9 Residual Chlorine Ammonia (NH3 as N) (summer) 7Q10 (CFS) 0.56 7Q10 (CFS) DESIGN FLOW (MGD) 0.1 DESIGN FLOW (MGD) DESIGN FLOW (CFS) 0.155 DESIGN FLOW (CFS) STREAM STD (UG/L) 17.0 STREAM STD (MG/L) UPS BACKGROUND LEVEL (t 0 UPS BACKGROUND LEVEL IWC (%) 21.68 IWC (%) Allowable Conc. (ug/1) 78 Allowable Conc. (mg/1) Ammonia (NH3 as N) (winter) 0.56 0.1 0.155 1.0 0.22 21.68 3.8 7Q10 (CFS) 0.9 Fecal Limit 200/100ml DESIGN FLOW (MGD) 0.1 (If DF >331; Monitor) DESIGN FLOW (CFS) 0.155 (If DF <331; Limit) STREAM STD (MG/L) 1.8 Dilution Factor (DF) 4.61 UPS BACKGROUND LEVEL 0.22 IWC (%) 14.69 Allowable Conc. (mg/1) 11.0 INPDES Servor/Current Versions/IWC 11 /18/2015 2014 AU Number: I AU Name: AU Description: French Broad River Basin AU Length Area: j AU Units: I Classification: 6-96-10b Little Ivy Creek (River) 2.1 FW Miles WS-II;HQW From State Route 1547 to Ivy Creek IRCategory: ACS: Parameter Of Interest: Collection Year: 303(d) yr: 5 EC Fecal Coliform (GM 200/400 5 in 30, REC, FW) 2011 2014 6-96-10a Little Ivy Creek (River) 2.6 FW Miles WS-II;HQW From California Creek to State Route 1547 RCategory: ACS: Parameter Of Interest: 5 EC Fecal Coliform (GM 200/400 5 in 30, REC, FW) Collection Year: 303(d) yr: 2011 2014 6-54-(1)b Mills River 1.8 FW Miles WS-II;Tr,HQW From River Mile 1.03 to a point 0.5 mile upstream of N.C. Hwy. 191 IRCategory: ACS: Parameter Of Interest: Collection Year: 303(d) yr: 5 EC pH (6 su, AL, FW) 2012 2012 6-55c1 Mud Creek 7.4 FW Miles C From Little Mud Creek to Clear Creek Byers Creek IRCategory: ACS: Parameter Of Interest: Collection Year: 303(d) yr: 5 EC Benthos Fair (Nar, AL, FW) 2000 2006 5 EC Fish Community Fair (Nar, AL, FW) 2002 2006 6-55c2 Mud Creek 3.6 FW Miles C From Clear Creek to Byers Creek IRCategory: ACS: Parameter Of Interest: Collection Year: 303(d) yr: 5 EC Fish Community Fair (Nar, AL, FW) 2002 2006 5 EC Benthos Fair (Nar, AL, FW) 2000 2006 6-55b Mud Creek 1.9 FW Miles C From State Route 1125 to Little Mud Creek RCategory: ACS: Parameter Of Interest: Collection Year: 303(d) yr: 5 EC Benthos Fair (Nar, AL, FW) 2007 1998 5 EC Fish Community Poor (Nar, AL, FW) 2002 1998 6-84d Newfound Creek From State Route 1378 to Dix Creek IRCategory: ACS: Parameter Of Interest: 5 EC Benthos Fair (Nar, AL, FW) 6-84b Newfound Creek From State Route 1296 to SR 1297 4.4 FW Miles C Collection Year: 303(d) yr: 2007 1998 1.3 FW Miles C RCategory: ACS: Parameter Of Interest: Collection Year: 303(d) yr: 5 EC Benthos Fair (Nar, AL, FW) 2002 1998 Friday, February 21, 2014 draft 2014 NC 303(d) List -Category 5 assessments requiring TMDLs Page 31 of 148