20190211 Ver 1_U-5875_Permitting Mtg Minutes_20180725_20180801

Carpenter, Kristi
From: Susan Westberry <[e-mail]>
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To: Caldwell, Betty A; Johnson, Jay B; Steffens, Thomas A CIV USARMY CESAW (US); Ward,
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Subject: [External] U-5875 Allen Road Permitting Meeting Minutes
Attachments: U-5875_Permitting Mtg Minutes_20180725.pdf
Hi all
Attached are minutes from the meeting held on July 25, 2018 to discuss permitting for the U-5875 Allen Road project.
Please review and provide comments as needed.
Thankyou
Susan
Susan Westberry, AICP, PWS, CPESC, LSSIT
Senior Project Manager
SEPI Engineering & Construction
5030 New Centre Drive, Suite B I Wilmington, NC 28403
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SEPI August 1, 2018
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Memorandum to: Betty Ann Caldwell, PE
NCDOT Division 2 Project Engineer
1037 WH Smith Blvd
Greenville, NC 27834
From: Susan Westberry, AICP, PWS, CPESC
Senior Planner/Project Manager, SEPI Engineering
Re: 401/404 Permitting Coordination Meeting for U-5875
Allen Road Widening in Greenville, Pitt County
A coordination meeting was held on July 25, 2018, at 11:00 am at the Division of
Highways Division 2 office in Greenville. The following people were in attendance:
Betty Ann Caldwell NCDOT - Division 2 Project Manager
Jay Johnson NCDOT - Division 2 DEO
Tom Steffens USACE
Garcy Ward NCDWR
Susan Westberry SEPI
Andy Howell (via phone) SEPI
The purpose of the meeting was to discuss how the U-5875 Allen Road project
would be permitted. Following environmental studies and field verifications for the
project in early 2017, a decision was made to permit the project using two separate
NWP 14 to cover impacts to Greens Mill Run and North Fork Greens Mill Run. This
was done to avoid the inclusion of the historic Noah Forbes, Sr. House (PT0047) in
the permit area to eliminate the need for Section 106 consultation (see attached
map). Now that drainage plans have been developed, there will be additional areas
of impact requiring 401/404 permitting.
SEPI requested a meeting with the USACE and NCDWR to review the draft permit
drawings and determine how project permitting should proceed.
Summary of Meeting Discussion:
• Due to the extension of design area near the Dickinson Ave/Allen Road
intersection, we are also now impacting additional resources at the
southern end of the project (Sites 1, 2, and 3). Because the issue at Site 1
is existing, but will be made worse by the construction of the project, it was
deemed necessary to address within the Allen Road project.
• The changes do not increase drainage areas for any receiving features, but
do increase the amount of impervious surface and thus, discharge within
each drainage area.
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• Flow of water/discharge in the area of the Dickinson Ave Extension/Allen Rd
intersection is unclear on current plans. SEPI to revise permit drawings to
make drainage patterns within new and existing pipes more obvious.
• Instead of using 2 NWP 14 permits, we will use a RGP 31 for minor
widening. This permit allows for 500 linear feet of impact and 1 acre of
wetland impact at each site/for each single resource.
• Sites 1, 2, and 3 would be viewed as a single, complete project and would not
trigger mitigation. These should be re -labeled and made into one site (Site 1).
• Calculations for impacts to Sites 4 and 5 should be revised so as to remove
any measurement of impact that falls within an existing culvert. Sites 4 and 5
will now be Sites 3 and 4.
• A waiver will be needed for the channel relocation required at Site 4. It can
be requested within the PCN (request for upstream channel modification
leading to culvert).
• Mitigation would only be required at Sites 4 and 5 if impact is above 150
linear feet (to be determined after impacts are recalculated as explained
above).
o Site 1- no mitigation
o Sites 4 and 5 - 2:1, if required
Changes to Permit Drawings:
Permit drawings will need to be changed as follows:
• Include more detail on drainage patterns near the impact areas (especially in
the vicinity of Sites 1, 2, and 3) - detail where new pipes will connect into
existing pipes and use arrows to show flow pattern and outfall locations.
o This will be especially important on the Buffer Plan Set. We will also
need to provide the stormwater management plan to illustrate details
regarding buffers (treatment, etc).
• Sites 1, 2, and 3 should be labeled Sites la, 1b, and 1c.
• Site 4 will become Site 2, Site 5 = Site 3, Site 6 = Site 4
• For Sites 4 and 5, exclude the current culvert length from the impact total.
We do not need to count linear feet of stream currently within a culvert as a
new impact even if it is going into a new culvert. Only the linear footage of
stream that will go from outside to inside a culvert should be counted as a
culvert impact.

This Exhibit is for planning purposes only and shown herein does not meet NC 47-30 Requirements and
therefore is not for design, construction, or recording or transfer of title. The Exhibit was compiled from
available information obtained from the sources listed below.
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