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National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System application for coverage under General Permit
NCG070000:
STORft1WATER DISCHARGES associated with activities classified as:
SIC 32 Stone, Clay, -Glass, and Concrete Products (except as specified below)
SIC' NIA Like activities deemed by DWQ to be similar in the process and/or the exposure of raw
materials, products, by-products, or waste materials
The following activities are specifically excluded from coverage under this General Permit:
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1) Mailing address of ownerloperator (address to which all p mnit correspondence will be mailed):
Name Blue Ridge Quarries
Street Address 8487 US: Highway 221 North
City Marion State NC ZIP Code 28752
Telephone No. 828-756-4651 FaX
E-mail Address
2) Location of facility producing discharge;
Facility Name
Facility Contact
Contact E-mail
Street Address
City
County
Telephone No.
Blue Ridge Quarries
Brad Gager
8487 US Highway 221 North
Marion State NC ZIP Code 28777
McDowell
828-756-4651
3) Physical Location Information:
Fax:
Please provide a narrative description of how to get to the facility (use street names, state road numbers, and
distance and direction from a roadway intersection). From I-40 take Hwy 221 north
around Marion and 10.6 miles to yard on Right.
(A copy of a county map or USGS quad sheet with facility clearly located on the map is required to be submitted with this application)
4) Latitude035-49-04.78N Longitude082-00-51 .93Wdegrees, minutes, seconds)
5) This NADES Permit Application applies to which of the following :
❑ New or Proposed Facility
0 Existing
Date operation is to begin
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6) Standard Industrial Classification:
Provide the 4 digit Standard Industrial Classification Code (SIC Code) that describes the primary industrial
activity at this facility
SIC Code: _J_ 4 J_ L
7) .-: Provide a brief narrative description of the types of industrial activities and products manufactured at
this facility: Splitting, Packaging, and Sales of Building Stone
8) . Discharge points 1 Receiving waters:
How many discharge points (ditches, pipes, channels, etc.) convey stormwater from the property? rO
9) Receiving waters:
What.is the name of the body or bodies of water (creek, stream, river, lake, etc,) that the facility stormwater
discharges end up in? _ Catawba Ri
If the site stormwater discharges to a separate storm sewer system, name the operator of the separate storm
sewer system (e.g. City of Raleigh municipal storm sewer).
10)-Does this facility have any other NPDES permits?
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❑ Yes
If yes, list the permit numbers for all current NPDES permits for this facility:
11) Does this facility have any Non -Discharge permits (ex: recycle permits)?
X$ No
❑ Yes
If yes, list the permit numbers for all current Nan-Dscharge permits for this facility:
..12j -Does this facility employ any best management practices for stormwater control?
❑ No
13 Yes
if yes,'please briefly describe: Sediment Traps, Ditches Inlet Protection
Mud _Mats/Construction Entrance, Diversions, Landscaping
and Veqetation T
13) Does this facility have a Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan?
❑ No
IN Yes
If yes, when was.it implemented?
14) Are vehicle maintenance activities occurring at this facility?
0 No Q Yes
15) Hazardous Waste:
a) Is this facility a Hazardous Waste Treatment, Storage, or Disposal Facility?
UNo ' ❑ Yes
b) Is this facility a Small Quantity. Generator (less than 1000 kg. of hazardous waste generated per month) of
hazardous waste?
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NCDENR
North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources
Division of Water Quality
Beverly Eaves Perdue Coleen H. Sullins
Governor Director
July 16, 2010
Mr. Brad Gager
Blue Ridge Quarries
8487 US Highways 221 North
Marion, NC 28752
Subject: General Permit No. NCG070000
Blue Ridge Quarries
COC NCG070190
McDowell County
Dear Mr. Gager:
Dee Freeman
Secretary
In accordance with your application for a discharge permit received on July 6, 2010, we
are forwarding herewith the subject certificate of coverage to discharge under the subject state —
NPDES general permit. This permit is issued pursuant to the requirements of North Carolina
General Statute 143-215.1 and the Memorandum of Agreement between North Carolina and the
US Environmental Protection Agency dated October 15, 2007 (or as subsequently amended).
Please take notice that this certificate of coverage is not transferable except after notice to
the Division of Water Quality. The Division of Water Quality may require modification or
revocation and reissuance of the certificate of coverage.
This permit does not affect the legal requirements to obtain other permits which may be
required by the Division of Water Quality or permits required by the Division of Land Resources,
Coastal Area Management Act or any other federal or local governmental permit that may be
required.
If you have any questions conceming this permit, please contact Brian Lowther at
telephone number [phone].
Sincerely,
for Coleen H. Sullins
cc: Asheville Regional Office
Central Files
Stoririwater Permitting Unit Files
Wetlands and Stormwater Branch One
1617 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, North Carolina 27699-1617 Noy t.i 1 Caro 1 I n a
Location: 512 N. Salisbury St. Raleigh, North Carolina 27604 ����l r�
Phone: [phone] FAX: 919.807•64941 Customer Service: 1-877-623-6748 Aa
Internet: www,newaterquality.org

STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES
DIVISION OF WATER QUALITY
GENERAL PERMIT NO. NCG070000
CERTIFICATE OF COVERAGE No. NCG070190
STORMWATER DISCHARGES
NATIONAL POLLUTANT DISCHARGE ELIMINATION SYSTEM
In compliance with the provision of North Carolina General Statute 143-215.1, other lawful
standards and regulations promulgated and adopted by the North Carolina Environmental
Management Commission, and the Federal Water Pollution Control Act, as amended,
Blue Ridge Quarries, Inc.
is hereby authorized to discharge stormwater from a facility located at
Blue Ridge Quarries
8487 US Highways 221 North
Marion, NC
McDowell County
to receiving waters designated as the North Fork Catawba River, a class B; Tr water in the
Catawba River Basin, in accordance with the effluent limitations, monitoring requirements, and
other conditions set forth in Parts I, II, III, IV, V, and VI of General Permit No. N00070000 as
attached.
This certificate of coverage shall become effective July 16, 2010.
This Certificate of Coverage shall remain in effect for the duration of the General Permit.
Signed this -day July 16, 2010.
for Coleen H. Sullins, Director
Division of Water Quality
By the Authority of the Environmental Management Commission

Lowther, Brian
C,om: Barnett, Kevin
it: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:39 AM
J: Lowther, Brian
Subject: RE: 5W General Permit NC6070190
Hi Brian
Go ahead and issue.
Thanks,
Kevin
" IF YOU INSTALL UNNATURAL GRADE CONTROL, THE STREAM WILL ATTEMPT TO TAKE IT OUT" David Derrick
Kevin Barnett - [e-mail]
North Carolina Dept. of Environment and Natural Resources
Asheville Regional Office
Division of Water Quality - Water Quality Section
2090 U.S. 70 Highway
Swannanoa, NC 28778
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
.nail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be
disclosed to third parties.
From: Lowther, Brian
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:03 AM
To: Barnett, Kevin
Subject: SW General Permit NCG070190
Kevin,
We've received an NOI from Blue Ridge Quarries for their site in Marion (McDowell County).
The site discharges stormwater to the North Fork Catawba River (B; Tr). The NOI is attached.
I have read through the emails that discussed how these facilities should be handled. Is
there anything you want me to note in my cover letter to them?
Does the Asheville Regional Office have any concerns about issuing this facility a COC for
this general permit, and are there any potential impacts to wetlands? If we don't receive any
objections, we'll issue the COC in 30 days.
Brian
Tian C. Lowther
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B. Mow grass, weeds and other annual type growth, and brush close to ground.
C. Scrape or rake area to remove brush, roots, loose grass, weeds and rocks before
stripping topsoil.
D. Topsoil to be stored for reuse shall meet requirements established above.
E. Store topsoil in area designated by Engineer. Store so as to prevent erosion and
mixture with debris and other materials.
3.3 SITE EXCAVATION AND PROOF -ROLLING
A. After this stripping is done, proof -roll these areas with a heavily -loaded rubber -tired
tandem axle dump truck. Operate the truck at a normal walking speed so that the
Geotechnical Engineer may observe the ground while walking beside the truck.
B. The Geotechnical Engineer will inspect the areas for soft spots.
3.4 REMEDIAL WORK
A. During the course of proof -rolling and inspection, as the Geotechnical Engineer finds
soft spots, he will direct cutting out of soft spots and backfilling with specified,
compacted earth fill.
3.5 BLASTING
A. Perform blasting only with written approval from the Engineer using skilled operators
per local ordinances. Adequately protect work from damage. Store no demolition
material such as dynamite, blasting caps, or the like at site overnight or when
supervisory personnel are not present.
B. Provide adequate protection measures to protect workmen and passersby on the site.
Fully protect streets and adjacent property throughout operations.
3.6 GENERAL SITEWORK
A. Before depositing fill material, remove vegetation and other unsuitable materials. Do
not place fill on a subgrade that contains frost, is muddy, or frozen.
B. Fill and grade to attain elevations indicated +/- 0.1' less allowances for placement of
aggregate, concrete, walks, drives and parking areas, and topsoil.
C. Inside of building lines, fill with specified earth fill and allow for placement of 6" of
granular fill and 6" of concrete, unless noted otherwise on the Contract Drawings.
SITE GRADING AND FILLING 02210-4
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Environmental Engineer
NCDENR I DWQ I Stormwater Permitting Unit
1617 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1617
' 2 N. Salisbury St, Raleigh, NC 27604
.lone: [phone]
Email: brian.lowther2ncdenr.gov
Website: littp://h2o.enr.state.nc.iis/sulstornnvater.html
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D. Outside of building, in areas designated to receive topsoil, grade, or fill and compact
specified earth, to bring areas to finished grade +/- 0.1' less 6" for placing topsoil.
E. Where exterior walks are indicated, allow for placement of 4" of granular fill and 4" of
concrete and finish +/- 0.1'.
F. Where drives are indicated to join the building, allow for placement of 6" of aggregate
base and 5" of asphalt.
3.7 GRADING
A. Grade to uniform levels and slopes, without abrupt changes. Make transitions from
levels to slopes smooth and with large radius cuts.
B. Finish areas to a reasonably true and even plane at required elevations, less
allowances for items specified above.
C. Along the lines indicating the limits of work, taper finish grade to the existing grade at .
a slope matching the natural contour. Perform all of this work within the limit lines.
3.8 STOCKPILING
A. Excavated materials classified as select and non -select shall be segregated and fill shall
be stockpiled in designated areas free of incompatible soil, clearing debris, or other
objectionable materials. Stockpile areas will be designated by the Owner or Engineer.
B. Excess excavated soil and excavated material classified as spoil shall be segregated
from fill, transported off site and disposed of in a manner and at a location acceptable
to the Owner and the Engineer.
C. Excavated material classified as topsoil shall be segregated from fill and stockpiled in
the manner as specified by the Owner or Engineer.
D. Stockpiles of fill, spoil, or topsoil shall be no steeper than 3:1 (horizontai:vertical)
without approval of the Engineer, graded to drain, sealed by tracking parallel to the
slope with a dozer or other means approved by the Engineer, and dressed daily during
periods when fill is taken from the stockpile. The Contractor may cover fill stockpiles
with plastic sheeting or other material approved by the Engineer in order to preserve
the moisture content of the fill.
E. Stockpiles that will remain out of active use for a period greater than one (1) month
shall be stabilized by revegetation in accordance with the requirements for
revegetation.
SITE GRADING AND FILLING
02210-5

Lowther, Brian
From: Pickle, Ken
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:53 PM
To: Barnett, Kevin
Cc: Bennett, Bradley; Georgoulias, Bethany; Jones, Jennifer; Edwards, Roger
Subject: RE: NOI for NCG02
Kevin
Confirming our conversation this afternoon, I think SPU and ARO SWPS are in agreement as follows:
We've talked this around in SPU, and we believe that the NPDES rules and General Permit text provide the authority for
the following DWQ actions:
a) The facilities you described should be advised to seek NPDES stormwater permit coverage under NCG07
Stone, Clay, and Glass which covers most of SIC 32. It looks to us like these facilities most nearly fit SIC 3281,
Cut Stone and Stone Products, "Establishments primarily engaged in cutting, shaping, and finishing... stone for
building and miscellaneous uses." So, it looks like you may want to send them all the NOI for NCG07.
b) Furthermore, any quibbles about whether cracking open stones with a mallet is actually "cutting" or "shaping"
or "finishing" in the context of a more refined and dimensionally precise industrial process, are addressed in the
face of NCG07 which provides permit applicability for SIC 32, AND for "like activities deemed by DWQ to be
similar in the process and/or the exposure of raw materials, products, by-products, or waste materials." In
response to any dispute as to SIC 3281, it suits us to consider these sites sufficiently similar to SIC 3281, and to
implement our program by placing these facilities under NCG07.
c) As to whether SPU should consider NCG02 as another candidate permit based on Major Group SIC 14 Mining
and Quarrying, please note that nearly every specific industrial activity listed in the Major Group SIC 14 carries
the additional tag of "quarrying" or "mining". The sites you are concerned about are not primarily engaged in
the usual meaning of those words, as we understand the circumstances. There may subsequently be some
further discussion/consideration if it later turns out that some of these sites obtain the DLR Mining Permit (for
example if they expand beyond DLR's 1 A threshold and so seek DLR coverage), since we have always heretofore
considered that, "If DLR thinks it's a mine, so do we." So it may happen that we may have to re-examine the
circumstances if they change in a way that presents this question to us later on. We may need to advise those
folks, "If you apply for a DLR Mining Permit, please check in with DWQ on whether you should continue under
NCG07." (Would we then require NCG02 instead? Maybe.)
d) Note that the NCG07 permit text requires an SPPP within 12 months of issuance of the Certificate of Coverage.
Part of that SPPP is a BMP Summary, which identifies the permittee's obligation to address expected
stormwater pollutants. Since many of these sites are already established as polluting (I presume you have
verified the legitimacy of the downstream complaints reported?), it seems that some (many?) of these sites
should have BMPs within the first year of COC issuance. Further, note that the permit text gives DWQ the
authority to direct the installation of control measures, including structural BMPs, if there is evidence that the
site is not effective in controlling the pollutants of concern: TSS/sediment in this case.
e) if these facilities approach you again through the single consultant with an eye for a uniform SPPP template, you
might consider advising him that our brief history with this subsector of the industry suggests that any SPPP
template he develops should probably contain structural BMPs for TSS/sediment control. Note that we in SPU
see a bit of a problem with trying to require this in our permitting documents on day one — ie, in adding
requirements to the EPA -approved text of NCG07. But, it seems to us that you guys exercise that sort of

leverage on a routine basis. Let us know if you have ideas on other ways for us to accomplish together the
installation of sediment BMPs on these sites.
f) Further note that analyticals are not required under NCG07, only visuals. I think we are in agreement.that for
these sites we expect visuals only to be an appropriate monitoring approach, until/unless shown to be
inadequate. So, although this visuals -only approach is less rigorous than the analytical monitoring required in
NCG02, we think it's an appropriate match of the visual method with the pollutant of concern. Let us know if
you think differently.
g) Lastly, SPU is not intending to mount an initiative to identify, educate, encourage, and capture exhaustively
these sites in the NPDES stormwater program. It is clear that they are a regulated industry, and they should all
be permitted. However, for the moment, ARO's approach of responding on a complaint -driven basis also fits
our limitations on available resources. If it turns out that we hear from the Regions that these guys are much
more of a problem than we have understood previously, we can revisit this determination.
SPUers - - anything from our discussions that I forgot to cover?
Ken
From: Barnett, Kevin
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 2:04 PM
To: Pickle, Ken
Cc: Georgoulias, Bethany; Edwards, Roger; Bennett, Bradley; Jones, Jennifer
Subject: RE: NOI for NCG02
We (ARO) started with 18 facilities. After this batch, I would not expect more than a couple or three per year.
(Complaint driven)
" IF YOU INSTALL UNNATURAL GRADE CONTROL, THE STREAM WILL ATTEMPT TO TAKE IT OUT" David Derrick
Kevin Barnett- Kevin. [e-mail]
North Carolina Dept. of Environment and Natural Resources
Asheville Regional Office
Division of Water Quality - Water Quality Section
2090 U.S. 70 Highway
Swannanoa, NC 28778
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be
disclosed to third parties.
From: Pickle, Ken
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:26 PM
To: Barnett, Kevin
Cc: Georgoulias, Bethany; Edwards, Roger; Bennett, Bradley; Jones, Jennifer
Subject: RE: NOI for NCG02
Kevin,
Spoke with Bradley just now. A couple of questions as to how many of these guys there may be.

Just trying to get an idea as far as programmatic concerns. How big is the universe here? If DLR has manpower issues
with these guys, is ARO SWPS still willing?. (I would guess that probably your region would see the most action in this
industry.) If the task is too big, we could operate on a complaint basis — require a permit in response to a complaint
(which is how we're starting, anyway, it seems).
We'll try to get back to you tomorrow.
Ken
From: Pickle, Ken
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:06 PM
To: Bennett, Bradley; Jones, Jennifer
Cc: Georgoulias, Bethany
Subject: RE: NOI for NCG02
Hi all,
I spoke with Kevin Barnett this morning. These are sites with few employees, taking rock from a variety of sources, and
with hand labor breaking them down into flat pieces that are sold for stone pavers, or chimney facings, or stacked stone
walls, or headwalls around the culverts under home driveways. A decorative stone product. You probably have seen
similar sites with pallets and wire baskets full of flat stones for sale.
Kevin has checked with the DLR staff in ARO, and they report two conditions: 1) they don't have staff to effectively
regulate these small sites at the present time. 2) And, some of these sites are under 1A, and so DLR is not authorized to
require mining permits from them.
Kevin has sent out 18 NOIs (NCG02) to these folks, and their group engineer has contacted him inquiring about the fact
that almost none of them have DLR mining permits. From which he concludes that without a DLR permit, we can't
require a NCG02. Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps to be discussed.
Kevin doesn't care much what permit these guys get. But, they are receiving complaints about many of these sites from
downstream homeowners. In a storm event, runoff transports the TSS from these sites, and because of their relatively
coarse and dense nature, the streambed suffers deposition of these materials, ARO wants these guys under some kind
of stormwater permit, and Kevin thinks that some sort of TSS BMP will be necessary at many of these sites. They need
to keep the solid debris from their rock splitting operations on their sites.
Kevin is aware that ARO can designate these sites one at a time for potential wqs violations. But, coverage under a
general permit for all would require less DWQ effort if we can justify that.
I like Bradley's suggestion that we employ the "walks like a duck, sounds like a duck" provisions under NCG07. NCG07
only requires visual testing, but does include DWQ's authority to direct remedial actions if discharges are not under
control. Let's explore this together on Tuesday?
I note that SIC 32 covers 3281—cutting, shaping, and finishing stone. I'm not sure they're 'finishing', but I think with the
expanded faux -duck provisions we could argue that they are close enough to cutting and shaping that we can pull them
under NCG07.
I've got to leave for the afternoon, but can we discuss Tuesday before getting back to Kevin?
Ken

From: Bennett, Bradley
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:55 PM
To: Pickle, Ken; Jones, Jennifer
Cc: Georgoulias, Bethany
Subject: RE: NOI for NCG02
Sorry I won't be here guys. Just one note, NCG07 is one of the GPs where we got the "activities deemed similar"
language included.
m
Bradley Bennett
Stormwater Permitting Unit
NC Division of Water Quality
1617 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1617
Phone* [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Email: [e-mail] (New Email Address)
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From: Pickle, Ken
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:11 PM
To: Jones, Jennifer
Cc: Georgoulias, Bethany; Bennett, Bradley
Subject: RE: NOI for NCG02
I'm ok w/just us three or two (Bethany?)convening this afternoon. I'd like it to be a little later in the afternoon, since I'd
like to look at the source documents a little first. I note that Bradley will not be available.
Ken
From: Jones, Jennifer
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:03 AM
To: Pickle, Ken; Barnett, Kevin; Bennett, Bradley; Georgoulias, Bethany
Cc: Edwards, Roger; Cranford, Chuck
Subject: RE: NOI for NCG02
Shall we have a quick pow wow this afternoon? I have to go home for lunch... but am free after that...
Jen
Jennifer Jones
Environmental Engineer
NCDENR I DWQ I Stormwater Permitting Unit
1617 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1617
512 N. Salisbury St, Raleigh, NC 27604
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
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From: Pickle, Ken
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:00 AM
To: Barnett, Kevin; Bennett, Bradley; Georgoulias, Bethany; Jones, Jennifer
Cc: Edwards, Roger; Cranford, Chuck
Subject: RE: NOI for NCG02
Hi Kevin,
I'm back in the office after being out Tuesday afternoon and all day Wednesday. I'll take a look at this this afternoon,
Ken
From: Barnett, Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:24 PM
To: Bennett, Bradley; Georgoulias, Bethany; Jones, Jennifer; Pickle, Ken
Cc: Edwards, Roger; Cranford, Chuck
Subject: RE: NOI for NCG02
Hi Bradley:
I was focused in on the SIC:1499 "Establishments primarily engaged in [ ] Preparing nonmetallic minerals" and SCI: 1411
"Also includes establishments engaged in producing rough blocks"
I eagerly await Ken's interpretation.
--Kevin
" IF YOU INSTALL UNNATURAL GRADE CONTROL, THE STREAM WILL ATTEMPT TO TAKE IT OUT" David Derrick
Kevin Barnett - Kevin. [e-mail]
North Carolina Dept. of Environment and Natural Resources
Asheville Regional Office
Division of Water Quality - Water Quality Section
2090 U.S. 70 Highway
Swannanoa, INC 28778
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law -and may be
disclosed to third parties.
From: Bennett, Bradley
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:15 PM
To: Georgoulias, Bethany; Barnett, Kevin; Jones, Jennifer; Pickle, Ken
Cc: Edwards, Roger
Subject: RE: NOI for NCG02
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think we need to look at whether this type of activity is really mining. From the limited amount I have seen here I
wouldn't say that it is, Instead it probably fits better from an NPDES Stormwater standpoint under SIC 32, specifically
maybe 3295 or 3281 ? Look at these and see what you guys think. If it fits here then these operations could be covered
under an NCG07 (Stone, Clay and Glass). We may want to wait for Ken to get back in the office and weigh in on this.
He is the master of analyzing the Industrial permit coverage and SIC code manual.
have pulled out a couple of parts of the SIC manual for the two mentioned above for you guys to look at.
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3295 Minerals and Earths, Ground or Otherwise Treated
Establishments operating without a mine or quarry and primarily engaged in crushing, grinding,
pulverizing, or otherwise preparing clay, ceramic, and refractory minerals; barite; and miscellaneous
nonmetallic minerals, except fuels. These minerals are the crude products mined by establishments
of Industry Groups 145 and 149, and by those of Industry 1479 mining barite. Also included are
establishments primarily crushing slag and preparing roofing granules. The beneficiation or
preparation of other minerals and metallic ores, and the cleaning and grading of coal, are classified
in Division B, Mining, whether or not the operation is associated with a mine.
Barite, ground or otherwise treated
Barium, ground or otherwise treated
Blast furnace slag
Clay for petroleum refining, chemically processed
• Clay, ground or otherwise treated
Desiccants, activated: clay
Diatomaceous earth, ground or otherwise treated
Feldspar, ground or otherwise treated
• Filtering clays, treated purchased materials
• Flint, ground or otherwise treated
Foundry facings, ground or otherwise treated
• Fuller's earth, ground or otherwise treated
• Graphite, natural: ground, pulverized, refined, or blended
Kaolin, ground or otherwise treated
Lead, black (natural graphite): ground, refined, or blended
Magnesite, crude: ground, calcined, or dead -burned
Mica, ground or otherwise treated
• Perlite aggregate
• Perlite, expanded
Plumbago: ground, refined, or blended
Pulverized earth
Pumice, ground or otherwise treated
Pyrophyllite, ground or otherwise treated
Roofing granules
Shale, expanded
• Silicon, ultra high purity: treated purchased materials
• Slag, crushed or ground
Spar, ground or otherwise treated
Steatite, ground or otherwise treated
Talc, ground or otherwise treated
Vermiculite, ex -foliated

3281 Cut Stone and Stone Products
Establishments primarily engaged in cutting, shaping, and finishing granite, marble, limestone, slate,
and other stone for building and miscellaneous uses. Establishments primarily engaged in buying or
selling partly finished monuments and tombstones, but performing no work on the stones other than
lettering, finishing, or shaping to custom order, are classified in Division F, Wholesale Trade or
Division G, Retail Trade. The cutting of grindstones, pulpstones, and whetstones at the quarry is
classified in Division B, Mining.
• Altars, cut stone
Baptismal fonts, cut stone
• Benches, cut stone
• Blackboards, slate
• Burial vaults, stone
• Church furniture, cut stone
• Curbing, granite and stone
• Cut stone products
• Desk set bases, onyx
Dimension stone for buildings
• Flagstones
• Furniture, cut stone
• Granite, cut and shaped
• Lamp bases onyx
• Limestone, cut and shaped
• Marble, building cut and shaped
• Monuments, cut stone: not including only finishing or lettering
• Paving blocks; cut stone
• Pedestals, marble
Pulpits, cut stone
• Roofing, slate
• Slate and slate products
• Statuary, marble
• Stone, cut and shaped
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Bradley Bennett
Stormwater Permitting Unit
NC Division of Water Quality
1617 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1617
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From: Georgoulias, Bethany
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:50 PM
To: Barnett;, Kevin; Jones, Jennifer; Ken Pickle
Cc: Edwards, Roger; Bennett, Bradley
Subject: RE: NOI for NCG02
Kevin,
We need Bradley's input on this; that's an important question.
Bethany Georgoulias
Environmental Engineer
NCDENR I DWQ I Stormwater Permitting Unit
1617 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1617
512 N. Salisbury St, Raleigh, NC 27604
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From: Barnett, Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:35 PM
To: Georgoulias, Bethany; Jones, Jennifer; Ken Pickle
Cc: Edwards, Roger; Bennett, Bradley
Subject: RE: NOI for NCG02
The NC Highway 221 / 226 is eat up with them, and we are getting regular complaints about these facilities, but only a
few of them qualify for a DLR Mining Permit. Without a way to control the sources, I do not know that we will be able to
get to the source (as the discharge is collective of pollutants down the highway).
" IF YOU INSTALL UNNATURAL GRADE CONTROL, THE STREAM WILL ATTEMPT TO TAKE IT OUT" David Derrick
Kevin Barnett - [e-mail]
North Carolina Dept. of Environment and Natural Resources
Asheville Regional Office
Division of Water Quality - Water Quality Section
2090 U.S. 70 Highway
Swannanoa, NC 28778
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From: Georgoulias, Bethany
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:33 PM
To: Barnett, Kevin; Jones, Jennifer; Ken Pickle
Cc: Edwards, Roger; Bennett, Bradley
Subject: RE: NOI for NCG02
Kevin,

think generally we have not pursued NCG02 coverage for these smaller sites that don't get Mining Permits because of
how difficult it is for us to find out about them and because of their small size. Bradley, is that correct, and is that our
current policy? -Bg
Bethany Georgoulias
Environmental Engineer
NCDENR I DWQ I Slormwater Permitting Unit
1617 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-1617
512 N. Salisbury St, Raleigh, NC 27604
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
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From: Barnett, Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:29 PM
To: Georgoulias, Bethany; Jones, Jennifer; Ken Pickle
Cc: Edwards, Roger; Bennett, Bradley
Subject: NOI for NCG02
a
I am trying to determine what is what with the NOI for the NCG02 Permit.
The NOI describes the activities which are covered under the NCG02, and as I read it, also include rock processing and
sorting yards where waste material is generated, and comes into contact with stormwater.
Under NGCO2 N01 question #9, is states that: DWQ cannot issue a COC for the NCG02 until a mining permit is issued.
There are activities that are not subject to the Mining Act (think sub 1 acre) that generate stormwater and cause stream
issues.
Does the NCG02 apply to those rock processing and sorting facilities that are sub 1 acre, and therefore do not require a
Mining Permit from DLR?
Best regards,
Kevin
" IF YOU INSTALL UNNATURAL GRADE CONTROL, THE STREAM WILL ATTEMPT TO TAKE IT OUT" David Derrick
Kevin Barnett - Kevin,[e-mail]
North Carolina Dept. of Environment and Natural Resources
Asheville Regional Office
Division of Water Quality - Water Quality Section
2090 U.S. 70 Highway
Swarnnanoa, NC 28778
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