20191343 Ver 1_More Info Received_20191206

Strickland, Bev
From: David Odom <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 5:39 PM
To: Annino, Amy M; Pete Dickerson; [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [External] RE: DWR 20191343 Camp Lurecrest Ministries, Inc Shoreline Stabilization
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Thank you Amy. Have a great weekend.
Dave
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From: Annino, Amy M <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 5:32:22 PM
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Subject: RE: [External] RE: DWR 20191343 Camp Lurecrest Ministries, Inc Shoreline Stabilization - Additional Information
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David,
Thank you for providing this additional information. Based on your latest revision provided on 11-22-19, the total
proposed shoreline stabilization for Camp Lurecrest Ministries is 227 linear feet.
The Division issued an approval for 373 feet of shoreline stabilization for Camp Lurecrest Ministries on December 13,
2017 (DWR#17-1209, see attached). The total amount of shoreline stabilization for both projects will exceed the 500
linear foot limit set by the USACE GP 30 (Total of 600 LF). The Corps of Engineers is required to issue a waiver if the
proposed stabilization is greater than 500 feet.
1. According to the application and previously issued 401, the proposed work will include 600 feet of shoreline
stabilization. The terms and conditions of the Regional General Permit (RGP30) allow for 500 linear feet of
shoreline stabilization. The Corps of Engineers will be required to issue a waiver if the proposed stabilization is
greater than 500 feet. This project will be placed on hold until you can confirm with the Corps of Engineers that
the project can be covered under the RGP 30.
Pursuant to Title 15A NCAC 02H .0502 (c), the applicant shall furnish all of the above requested information for the
proper consideration of the application. If all of the requested information is not received within 30 calendar days, of
receipt of this email, the Division will be unable to approve the application and it will be returned. The return of this
project will necessitate reapplication to the Division for approval, including a complete application package and the
appropriate fee.
Please let me know if you have any questions. You may provide your response via email or mail to the address noted
below.
Amy Annino

Environmental Specialist —Asheville Regional Office
Water Quality Regional Operations Section
NCDEQ — Division of Water Resources
828 296 4656 office
amy.annino(cancdenr.gov
2090 U.S. Hwy. 70
Swannanoa, N.C. 28711
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From: David Odom <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:37 AM
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Good morning Amy. I have attached a drawing that shows the dimensions and area of the stone at the toe of the sea
wall.
As for your second comment, there is currently a wooden wall in place that we are replacing. There is a lot of activity in
this area with kids when camp is in session. Concrete is certainly more desirable than a wooden walk. We did work with
Stan to add some trees for additional shading of the area to minimize water temperature increase. To be honest, it is
such a small amount of surface area there is no way that the temperature of the lake will increase by any measurable
amount due to this project We believe the additional shading is the best solution.
Dave
From: Pete Dickerson <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 2:34 PM
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From: Annino, Amy M <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:11 AM
To: Pete Dickerson <[e-mail]>; David Odom <[e-mail]>
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Pete,
Thank you for providing the additional information requested by the Division of Water Resources. I have two additional
comments.
Please provide the dimensions and square footage of the proposed rip rap that will be placed at the toe of the
proposed sea wall.
The Division is concerned how the proposed concrete sidewalk and concrete pad may potentially impact surface
water quality in Lake Lure (Class B; Tr). The concrete sidewalk and pad will add impervious surface at the lake's
edge within the Trout Buffer and will contribute stormwater runoff directly to Lake Lure that may pose a risk of
increasing water temperatures. The use of pervious materials along walkways and in the rope swing area, such
as a wooden boardwalk or mulch, would be preferable to the use of concrete as a means to maintain surface
water quality in Lake Lure. Would project objectives still be met with the use of pervious materials along the
walkway and at the rope swing pad adjacent to Lake Lure?
Amy Annino
Environmental Specialist —Asheville Regional Office
Water Quality Regional Operations Section
NCDEQ — Division of Water Resources
828 296 4656 office
amy.annino(cancdenr.gov
2090 U.S. Hwy. 70
Swannanoa, N.C. 28711
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Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 10:14 AM
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Amy —
Thank you for your review and comments of the Camp Lurecrest Ministries Shoreline Stabilization project. We have
revised the base work plan based on your review, and attached a PDF of the drawing (Revison 3). Further responses to
your comments are included inline, in red font below. We believe we have addressed all of your department's concerns
regarding this project and are hopeful that your approval will be forthcoming — please let me know if any additional
information is needed.
Thank you and Kind Regards,
Pete Dickerson

Odom Engineering PLLC
169 Oak Street
Forest City, NC 28043
828-247-4495 ext. 0, voice
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From: Annino, Amy M <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 8:28 AM
To: Pete Dickerson <[e-mail]>; David Odom <[e-mail]>
Subject: DWR 20191343 Camp Lurecrest Ministries, Inc Shoreline Stabilization - Additional Information required
The Division of Water Resources (Division) has performed a preliminary review of a 401 Water Quality Certification
application submitted for the above referenced project. The Division has determined that your application is incomplete
and cannot be processed. The application is on -hold until all of the following information is received:
1. Please clarify whether the proposed concrete seawall will replace the existing bulkhead in the same footprint or
if there will be any extension of land and resultant fill into Lake Lure. The Proposed Seawall will replace the
existing wooden bulkhead footprint with no extension of land or fill into lake Lure.
2. What is the extent and purpose of the proposed use of sandbags in the lake (location, linear feet, etc.) at the toe
of the seawall? Please provide a justification for using sand bags at the base of the proposed concrete seawall.
Duke Energy Shoreline Management Guidelines (attached) recommend using Class B rip rap or larger. If sand
bags must be used, please provide a sheer strength analysis. Please see current revision of drawing, references
to permanent sandbags have been replaced with specification of 6" to 9' nominal size rounded stone for
protection of the seawall in swim areas.
3. The detail drawing indicates rounded stone will be used at the toe of the seawall in some locations (Retaining
Wall Detail 135). What is the extent and location of this impact? Please indicate what size stone is being proposed
and if it will be comparable in size to Class B rip rap. If stone is to be of smaller size of Class B Rip Rap, please
provide a sheer strength analysis. The stone size specified is comparable to class B riprap. Rounded stone is
specified in the swim areas to reduce the potential for injuries to swimmers, which would be expected to be
higher with specification of sharper and more angular riprap stones.
4. Per Water Quality Certification 4145, Rip -rap shall be installed waterward of bulkheads to ensure protection of
aquatic habitat. 15A NCAC 02H .0506(b)(4). Please revise the drawing and application to include appropriately
sized rip rap along the extent of the proposed seawall. The drawing has been revised to show rounded stone of
comparable size to class B riprap in lieu of rip rap in the swim areas, full extent of the proposed seawalls.
Provide information regarding the extent of impacts associated with applying rip rap to the shoreline at the
waterslide. Include information as to the rip rap footprint both above and below the full pond level (ex. Above:
35' x a'; Below: 35' x b'). Riprap at slide area to be approximately 35' L x 2' W (70 sf) below full pond level, and
approximately 40' W x 8' L (320 sf) above the full pond level.
6. All rip -rap should be installed over a toed in filter fabric to prevent soil erosion behind the stabilized area. Please
revise your plans to include filter fabric. [15A NCAC 02H .0507 (c)] The drawing has been revised to show toed in
filter fabric in riprap and rounded stone areas.

Pursuant to Title 15A NCAC 02H .0502, the applicant shall furnish all of the above requested information for the proper
consideration of the application. If all of the requested information is not received within 45 calendar days of receipt of
this email, the DWR will be unable to approve the application and it will be returned. The return of this project will
necessitate reapplication to the DWR for approval, including a complete application package and the appropriate fee.
Amy Annino
Environmental Specialist —Asheville Regional Office
Water Quality Regional Operations Section
NCDEQ — Division of Water Resources
828 296 4656 office
amy.annino(cancdenr.gov
2090 U.S. Hwy. 70
Swannanoa, N.C. 28711
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