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NORTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES
RALEIGH REGIONAL OFFICE
September 9, 1998
ect: Neuse River Basin Riparian Buffer Rules
NBR-RRO 69
Trinity Pointe
Trinity Road Job Number 97131
Wake County
Dear Mr. Paul:
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On August 10 1998, I met with you at the subject property to conduct a site visit for the
4 ., above referenced project. This project is referenced by the Raleigh Regional Office as NBR RRO-
- 3 * '° -x!069. At your request, an evaluation was performed to determine if the feature (as indicated by the
k Alue line on the attached map) would require compliance with the Neuse River Basin: Nutrient
`sensitive Waters Management Strategy; Protection and Maintenance of Existing Riparian Areas,
Administrative Code T15A:02B.0233 (NCAC 0233).
As a result, it was determined that the unnamed tributary (UT) is an intermittent stream and
' herefore is subject to the Neuse Buffer Rules. This point is located between 0-7 and 0-8 at L111,
r' ,T 3 d begins at the point on the map shown in red. These Rules require a fifty foot riparian buffer
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lv, g determined to be intermittent or perennial. Above this point, the stream is ephemeral
or stonmwater derived and not subject to protection under this Rule.
Qy '" Thank you for your attention to this matter and if this Office can be of any assistance or if
-Yyou have additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
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Sincerely,
Steve Mitchell
Environmental Scientist
71500 BARRETT DRIVE, SUITE 101, RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA 27609
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August 27, 1998

Mr. Steve Mitchell, Environmental Scientist
NCDEHNR, Division of Water Quality, Water Quality Planning
Raleigh Regional Office
3800 Barrett Drive, Suite 101
Raleigh, North Carolina 27609
Subject: Trinity Pointe Property, Cary, North Carolina
Verification of Field Review
Extent of Neuse River Buffers
Dear Mr. Mitchell,
This letter is to submit a plat regarding the above-mentioned project. Shown on this plat (in red) is the
point we agreed on in the field, regarding the landwardmost extent of the applicability of Neuse River
buffers. This point has been field located by surveyors associated with Withers & Ravenel.
Please provide verification regarding this. If you have any questions regarding this or any other related
matter, please feel free to contact me at (919) 2314409.
Cordially yours,
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Nelson G. Paul
Manager/Land Use Consultant
ECPS, Inc.
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Attached you will find the Trinity Point map. With the N3R call made, the road had to be
relocated up and into lots 8 and 9. They had already lost lots 18, 19, 28, 29, 33 34, and 44.
Portions of lots 3, 4, 5, 17, 22, 23, 24, 31, and 32. To facilitate this, I proposed that they pursue
the road as a crossing of the upper end of the buffer. If it makes it any easier, I could just move
the N13R call downstream 10 feet. This water body begins in a seep area that, in years past, cattle
excavated into a wetland area, and this eventually becomes intermittent.
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WITHERS & RAVENEL, Engineering & Surveying, Inc. Hamilton E. lVithers, P. E.
+ Samuel F. Raven(, P. E.
Y 111 MacKenan Drive, Cary N. C. 27511.9191469-3340•FAX.-9191467--6008 James E. Canfiehl, AE.
LoJtee G. Smith, P.E.
Jimmy E. Bass, RLS
Alichael E. Dickerson, RLS
September 16, 1998
Mr. Nelson Paul
ECPS, Inc. j
2216 Dobbin Place
Raleigh, NC 27604
RE: Trinity Point Subdivision Wetlands and Neuse River Basin Riparian Buffer Rules
WRES Project No. 97131
NCDENR No. NBR-RR069
Dear Nelson:
Thank you for taking the time to meet with members of the Raleigh Regional Office and Withers & Ravenel
to discuss the above referenced project in further detail. As a result of this meeting with NCDENR Raleigh
Regional Staff Members Ken Schuster, Steve Mitchell and Annette Lucas, it was determined that we need
to amend our subdivision plan with the wetlands impacts and Neuse River riparian buffer areas shown and
submit this information to Mr. John Dorney of the Division of Water Quality. The Raleigh Regional Staff
Members supported our position that the Faulconer Creek Trail roadway location be kept as shown on the
attached plan. This would be done in conjunction with other revisions that are incorporated in the attached
plan. DWQ indicated a willingness to consider this as a roadway crossing as allowed in the riparian buffer
by the existing rules. This plan of action was endorsed by the Raleigh Regional Office Staff in attendance
contingent upon review by John Dorney as part of the 401 permit request.
We therefore are requesting that you complete the required wetlands permit applications for this project and
submit a copy of this letter so that we may proceed with the permitting for this project.
We will also be providing copies of this letter and site plan to the Raleigh Regional Office Staff. We will
request that they contact us with any questions or discrepancies they note with any information contained
in this letter.
Thank you for your continued assistance with the project. Please advise ifyou require additional information
or have any questions.
Sincerely
Jim Canfield, P.E.
cc: Bill Turner, The Turner Group
Steve Mitchell, NCDENR
Annette Lucas, NCDENR
Ken Schuster, NCDENR
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