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Home My WebLink AboutNCD980602163_19951113_Warren County PCB Landfill_SERB C_Joint Working Group - Novemeber 1995 Meeting-OCRFROM NC DIV HAZEROUS WASTE 11.15.1995 14:34 The ne:xt meeting of . the Joint Warren County/ State PCB Landfill Working Group will be November 28, 1995, at 4 pm in the Grand Jury Room of the Warren County Courthouse, Warrenton, NC. ' • I '. i p. 1 I • • . I • ' .... ",t'T• FROM NC DIU HAZEROUS WASTE 11.15.1995 14:34 Joint Warren County/State PCB Landfill Working Group November 13, 1995 The Joint Warren County/State PCB Landfill Working Group met on November 13, 1995 in the Grand Jury Room, Warren County Courthouse, Warrenton, NC. Co- chairs Ken Ferruccio and Henry Lancaster called the meeting to order at 4:08 pm. The minutes of the October 30, 1995 meeting were approved as written. Mr. Bill Meyer discussed equipment for the working group's office. He said that the Division of Solid Waste Management will try to obtain an existing computer. A new computer would cost about $3,000. State Surplus does not have any good printers, and the division has none available. A new black and white printer would cost about $2,500, and a color printer about $4.500. There are no fax machines in surplus, and a new one would coat about $3,000. He said that the division would attempt to obtain an existing copier. A new copier would cost about $7,400. Computer software (word processing, Excel, Harvard Graphics, Internet, and Windows) would cost approximately $2,000. Mr. Meyer told the working group that it needs to determine the specific needs of the office and what the county would supply before the state proceeds to obtain office equipmont. Mr. Meyer reported that he had talked to EPA about the beat direction to take with regard to boring holes in the PCB landfill to extract soil for the pilot projects. Rather than applying for a permit amendment under T)CSCA, EPA suggested that he submit a proposal (as part of the research and development proposal for the pilot scale studies) requesting approval of the technical process of providing, drying, and storing the extracted soil. EPA could then approve all of the proposals at one time. Mr. Meyer noted that the extraction process would probably involve the boring and casing of three, two foot diameter holes. Mr. Meyer said that division staff are currently reviewing the applications from Soil Tech and Aquaterra/ETO. Mr. L.C. Cooper reported that CP&L is currently negotiating with the county for a building owned by CP&L. A portion of this building could be used as an office for the part-time staff person to the PCB working group and the science advisor when both are hired. The building has several offices, a meeting room, kitchen, and there is plenty of parking. It is easily accessible to anyone in the county and surrounding area. There ie a separate building (behind office building) that is fenced in and might possibly be used as a storage facility for the extracted aoil for the pilot projects and any other equipment. Mr. Bill Meyer said that there needed to be sufficient storage space for about 22-30 55-gallon drums of the PCB contaminated soils. He said that this building would probably meet the TASCA standards for such storage. However. Mr. Earl Limer and Ma. Deborah Ferruccio felt that the community would be alarmed if PCB contaminated aoile were stored in this facility. Mt. Meyer said another option would be the storage of the soils in connex boxes (metal storage boxes that are open on one end) at the landfill site. He offered to draft up the costs of each option. A general discussion followed with varying opinions. Mr. Jim Warren suggested that an analysis be done before any decision is made. Mr. Ferruccio said that Secretary Howes had p. 2 FROM NC DIU HAZEROUS WASTE 11.15.1995 14:35 made a commitment that the work would be done on site. No vote or concensus was reached by the group concerning possible storage of soil extracted from the eite. Mr. Cooper said that the office space for a part-time secretary (20 hours per week) and the science advisor, utilities, etc., would coat between $22,000 and $25,000 per year. He also said that the county ia interested in hiring the part-time secretary for an additional 20 hours to work for the water department. There was some concern expressed that the secretary would be paid entirely from the $1 million awarded by the General Assembly for the PCB pilot projects. Mr. Lancaster clarified that the state would enter into a contract with the county, whereby the state would put in funds for some apace rental, some equipment, and 20 hours per week that the secretary would be working for the PCB group. The county would pay the other portion of the secretary's work time, etc. Mr, Lancaster felt that the estimates provided by Mr. Cooper were good and reasonable. The group is currently waiting for a detailed proposal from the county for its share of the staff person, equipment, etc. Mr. fVleyer said that the biannual sampling will be postponed until after the science advisor is hired. The sampling will probably be sometime in January. Dioxin sampling will be done at at that time and it will be paid for from Warren County's $100,000 in capital improvement funds. • Mr. Lancaster said that the executive committee is reviewing the information provided by the science advisor applicants. Next week, the executive committee members will be making some phone calls. The members will then get together and make a recommendation. Before a final decision is made, Mr. Lancaster said that the potential advisor would be invited to come talk to the group and answer any questions. Ms. Ferruccio felt that the candidates should talk to the group before a recommendation is made. Mr. Meyer suggested ranldng the candidates (1, 2, 3). Mr. Warren felt that the executive committee should explain to the group how they went about the process of selecting a potential science advisor. Mr. Lancaster suggested picking the top two candidates and presenting information about them to the group; then the group can decide whether to interview one or both candidates. Mr. Warren asked Mr. Meyer for an update on the cleanup of the Koppers site near the Shiloh Community. Mr. Meyer said that ETO's BCD process had emitted dioxins at the Kopper'e site and another one in California. ETO's response to these situations was poor. Staff from the Division of Solid Waste Management met with folks in the Shiloh Community and asked them what they wanted to do. The community decided to go with off-site management of the waste, primarily because funding for cleanup is available now. Mr. Meyer also noted that Soil Tech's full scale process had emitted some dioxins. Mr. Meyer said there were two primary issues of concern: can the dioxin emissions be controlled, and if so, what ie to be done with the dioxin. He said that the state wants to know the answers to these questions and be sure that emissions do not exceed any limits. Mr. Ferruccio il1quired about the FCX cleanup in Washington, NC. Mr. Meyer responded that this cleanup effort was not really a BCD process. p. 3 FROM NC DIU HAZEROU S WASTE 11.15.199 5 14:3 5 Mr. Meyer noted that the BCD proposal for the PCB landftll involves both ETG and Aquaterra. Aquaterra has considerable cleanup experience and should enhance ETO'e efforts. Mr. Meyer said that dioxin emissions on a full-scale process would be a disaster. The state wants a good job, not a lawsuit. Mr. Warren asked about Mr. George Bain's comments concerning groundwater monitoring at the PCB landfill. Mr. Meyer said that the working group wanted to wait until a science advisor is hired before considering the comments. The next meeting will be Tuesday, November 28 at 4 pm. The meeting concluded at 5:34 pm. Action Item• Minutes eubmitted by Pat Williamson Bill Meyer -submit proposal to EPA requesting approval of technical process for soil emraction Executive Committee -review information provided by science advisor applicants, rank them, and be prepared to discuss this at the next working group meeting. p. 4 I __ 11 tJ !JV Cj~ f_)\I( we. t\ - re rr u ~ t{ l)_ - ---J3~~{· ~--i ~-{£ - ---- L r 2 ~\v. 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