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Price, Liz
From:Price, Liz
Sent:Wednesday, November 9, 2022 12:24 PM
To:Kirk McDonald
Cc:Price, Liz
Subject:RE: [External] 1812 South Churchill Drive: on-site well questions

Yes either would work for us.  I thought maybe you would have a generator that could be hooked up to the irrigation 
well for sampling, I know you had said there was not power on the property at this time. 

Liz Price
Hydrogeologist / Wilmington Regional Office
Division of Waste Management, UST Section
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Office: [phone]
[e-mail]

Wilmington Regional Office Fayetteville Regional Office

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For spills or other environmental emergencies after hours:
NC DEQ DWM Duty Phone [phone]
NC State Emergency Management 1-800-858-0368
National Response Center 1-800-424-8802

From: Kirk McDonald <Kirk@oil‐tank.com>  
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 12:19 PM 
To: Price, Liz <[e-mail]> 
Subject: RE: [External] 1812 South Churchill Drive: on‐site well questions 

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Thanks Liz,

Can we do either the shallow aquifer monitoring well or the existing well sampling? Drillers will have to
extract the water from the existing well. Drillers are not cheap and their schedules aren’t reliable. It may be
easier and cheaper to do the shallow monitoring well because I can do that in-house.

Thanks.

Kirk W. McDonald, P.G.
Practical Environmental Solutions, P.C.
Specializing in Residential Oil Tanks
www.oil-tank.com 910-790-8265
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From: Price, Liz [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 12:08 PM
To: McDonald, Kirk
Cc: Price, Liz
Subject: FW: [External] 1812 South Churchill Drive: on-site well questions

Hi Kirk, 
After looking over your question, as there is no GW data at this high‐risk noncom/nonregulated site, I would suggest 
that they can sample the existing WSW (in leu of installing shallow temporary MW)  and if clean, can back up and install 
new well, and then sample new well. 

NRP restriction would still be on the site and NRP would need modification due to a new WSW location.  NRP not 
removed from site b/c do not know what is in source are or in shallow GW. 

Some type of data is needed for us to move forward and I believe this to be the most cost effective way to allow us to 
get GW data and for the property owner to be able to install an additional MW. 

Thank you. 

Liz Price
Hydrogeologist / Wilmington Regional Office
Division of Waste Management, UST Section
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Office: [phone]
[e-mail]

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Wilmington Regional Office Fayetteville Regional Office

DWM Site Locator DWM UST Section Website DWM Laserfiche Public Search DWM UST Permitting and
Inspection

For spills or other environmental emergencies after hours:
NC DEQ DWM Duty Phone [phone]
NC State Emergency Management 1-800-858-0368
National Response Center 1-800-424-8802

From: Haseltine, Mike <[e-mail]>  
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 11:46 AM 
To: Price, Liz <[e-mail]> 
Subject: RE: [External] 1812 South Churchill Drive: on‐site well questions 

I’m OK with that approach and the outcome might be the same ‐ we’re after GW data. If either WSW is impacted above 
2L then the owner has a problem. 

Michael Haseltine, L.G.
Regional Supervisor Fayetteville/Wilmington Offices
Division of Waste Management, UST Section
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Office: [phone] I Cell: [phone]
[e-mail]

 “Providing science-based environmental stewardship for the health and prosperity of ALL North
Carolinians.” 

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DWM Site Locator DWM UST Section Website DWM Laserfiche Public Search DWM UST Permitting and
Inspection

For spills or other environmental emergencies after hours:
NC DEQ DWM Duty Phone [phone]
NC State Emergency Management 1-800-858-0368
National Response Center 1-800-424-8802

From: Price, Liz <[e-mail]>  
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2022 11:21 AM 
To: Haseltine, Mike <[e-mail]> 
Cc: Price, Liz <[e-mail]> 
Subject: FW: [External] 1812 South Churchill Drive: on‐site well questions 

After looking over Kirks Question, and there is no GW data at this high‐risk noncom/nonregulated site.   I would suggest 
that they can sample the existing WSW (in leu of installing shallow temporary MW)  and if clean, can back up and install 
new well, and then sample new well. 

NRP restriction would still be on the site and NRP would need modification due to a new WSW location. 

Would you be in agreement with sampling the WSW instead of installing temp MW? 

I am available if you want to talk out further. 

Thank you. 

Liz Price
Hydrogeologist / Wilmington Regional Office
Division of Waste Management, UST Section
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Office: [phone]
[e-mail]

Wilmington Regional Office Fayetteville Regional Office

DWM Site Locator DWM UST Section Website DWM Laserfiche Public Search DWM UST Permitting and
Inspection

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NC DEQ DWM Duty Phone [phone]
NC State Emergency Management 1-800-858-0368
National Response Center 1-800-424-8802

From: Kirk McDonald <Kirk@oil‐tank.com>  
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 10:06 AM 
To: Price, Liz <[e-mail]> 
Cc: Haseltine, Mike <[e-mail]> 
Subject: RE: [External] 1812 South Churchill Drive: on‐site well questions 

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Hey Liz,

I just wanted to make sure of something on this one.

The existing well is 150 feet deep. The owner said he was considering a deeper one to get better water
quality. Given the depth of the new well built to standards, do you really want to check the top on the surficial
water table at halfway the distance from the former tank location?

The existing well is approximately 75 feet from the former tank location. The new well will likely be further
away than 75 feet but not more than 150 feet.
Please confirm that the surficial aquifer well and sample are necessary. Thank you.
Kirk W. McDonald, P.G.
Practical Environmental Solutions, P.C.
Specializing in Residential Oil Tanks
www.oil-tank.com 910-790-8265
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From: Price, Liz [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2022 1:26 PM
To: Kirk McDonald
Cc: Price, Liz; Haseltine, Mike
Subject: RE: [External] 1812 South Churchill Drive: on-site well questions

Hi Kirk, 
Talked this one over with Mike today and we came up with the following requirements to install an additional well on 
site: 

 Per 15A NCAC 2C standards, the new irrigation well needs to be, at a minimum, 50 feet from potential sources of
GW contamination. 

 A temporary MW should be installed half way between former tank pit and proposed new WSW location, and 
the MW sampled per risk‐based analysis.   
o If the MW is clean, the proposed location for the new WSW will stand and the county can issue the 
permit with DWM input. 
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o If the MW shows contamination, we would request that the proposed location be backed up and an 
additional MW installed halfway between the last temp MW and the newly proposed WSW 

 If the new WSW can be installed outside of a 150 radius, no additional GW sampling would be required from the 
UST Section as this would put the incident risk to low. 

 Once new well installed, an addendum to NRP may be required depending on location of new WSW 

 The current WSW should be abandoned, and a copy of abandonment records submitted to the UST Section. 

Please let me know if additional clarification is needed. 

Thank you. 

Liz Price
Hydrogeologist / Wilmington Regional Office
Division of Waste Management, UST Section
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Office: [phone]
[e-mail]

Wilmington Regional Office Fayetteville Regional Office

DWM Site Locator DWM UST Section Website DWM Laserfiche Public Search DWM UST Permitting and
Inspection

For spills or other environmental emergencies after hours:
NC DEQ DWM Duty Phone [phone]
NC State Emergency Management 1-800-858-0368
National Response Center 1-800-424-8802

From: Kirk McDonald <Kirk@oil‐tank.com>  
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2022 2:39 PM 
To: Price, Liz <[e-mail]> 
Subject: [External] 1812 South Churchill Drive: on‐site well questions 

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Hey Liz,

Sorry. I’ve got another question for you.

We removed an oil tank from this property several months ago. It leaked and you processed a NRP for it. In
June you sent a letter saying the site is a High Risk and that additional work should be done regarding the onsite
well.

So the property owner does not think that the existing well is sufficiently deep for future use. He would like to
abandon this well and install a new deeper well. What do we need to do to have you approve this course of
action? And do we need to sample the new well?

Let me know and call me if you want to discuss it in more detail. Thanks.

Kirk W. McDonald, P.G.
Practical Environmental Solutions, P.C.
Specializing in Residential Oil Tanks
www.oil-tank.com 910-790-8265
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