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Grzyb, Julie
From: Sink, Marla
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:07 PM
To: Grzyb, Julie
Cc: Brower, Connie
Subject: RE: FW: Thanks a few followup questions
Thank you, Julie and Connie. This is very informative and easy to read for such a complicated subject.
Marla
Marla Sink
Public Information Officer
Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Water Resources
919 707 9033 office
Marla.sink@ncdenr.gov
512 North Salisbury Street_
1611 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1611
From: Grzyb, Julie
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:05 PM
To: Sink, Marla <Maria.Sink@ncdenr.gov>
Cc: Brower, Connie<connie.brower@ncdenr.gov>
Subject: FW: FW: Thanks a few followup questions
Marla,
Below is my response to Vaughn's questions — complicated subject, gave it my best shot.
Julie
Some of the process questions would be best directed at Chemours. My understanding, though very limited, is that Chemours
transitioned from using PFOA's to the GenX process a number of years ago (2015). GenX uses Perfluorinated Chemicals (PFCs)
that are described as being less harmful than the PFOA's that were used before. The PFC's used and generated by the GenX
process are not currently regulated in surface waters and do not currently have wastewater limitations. Sufficient peer -
reviewed information on the toxicology of these chemicals is not available at this time. FYI — It is my understanding that at the
time the samples were collected for Mei Sun's paper, Chemours had not completely transitioned to the GenX process.
The GenX process is used for making fluoropolymers — earlier question from Vaughn. Chemours is a complex manufacturing
facility and products produced in one line are used in the production of others in another manufacturing line. In this type of
facility, DEQ/NPDES permitting tries to follow the chemicals used and produced in each wastestream as opposed to products
produced.
The polymer processing aid wastewaters Vaughn asked about earlier are sent for incineration in Arkansas or sometimes Ohio.
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As part of the NPDES permit renewal - Chemours will have to describe all the wastestreams that are to be discharged and the
contaminants they expect to be contained in the wastewaters. The concentrations of each contaminant will be evaluated
against State and Federal surface water aquatic life and human health standards/criteria in accordance with 15A NCAC 02B. If
there is reasonable potential for any of the toxicants to exceed the standards/criteria a limitation for that pollutant will be put
in the NPDES wastewater permit. The draft permit will be sent to public notice for 30 days and the public is welcome to
comment.
Julie
Julie A Grzyb
Supervisor
NPDES Complex Permitting
NC DEQ / Division of Water Resources / Water Quality Permitting
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From: Sink, Marla
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 201712:59 PM
To: Grzyb, Julie <lulie.erzyb@ncdenr.eov>
Subject: FW: FW: Thanks a few followup questions
Hi Julie,
Please see questions below that may probably be answered from the permit writer. A few we may not know.
Marla Sink
Public Information Officer
Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Water Resources
919 707 9033 office
Marla. sink(5-ncdenr.gov
512 North Salisbury Street
1611 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1611
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From: Vaughn Hagerty fmailto vauQh^ hapPrtvna �mail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 12:22 PM
To: Sink, Marla <Marla Sink@ncdenr-gov>
Subject: Re: FW: Thanks a few followup questions
Are you asking whether I'm seeking something I can attribute to you? I'd prefer that.
Maybe it would help if I were a little more explicit: It's still unclear how GenX is getting onfi t e river from
is, then what
Y
Process ii) that I sent to you *seems* to be the GenX manufacture, thoughY
is clear from the description is that any wastewater should not be getting discharged by Chemours. That's one of the
things I'm trying to pin down.
The other, related, unknown is, is GenX involved in process i) somehow, maybe as a by-product. Wastewater from
that one is clearly discharged.
assuming that since GenX isn't regulated, it isn't something that would be monitored in the discharge, but maybe
I'm asg
I'm wrong.
-Vaughn
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Sink, MarlaVlarla Sink(a ncdenr.ov> wrote:
Hi Vaughn,
Do you need a statement from us or were you just seeking background info?
Thanks,
Maria
Marla Sink
Public Information Officer
Department of Environmental Quality
Division of Water Resources
919 707 9033 office
Marla sinkCcDncdenr.gov
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512 North Salisbury Street
1611 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1611
From: Vaughn Hagerty[mailto:vaughn.hagerty@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 4:54 PM
To: Sink, Marla <Marla.Sink(u@ncdenr.eov>
Subject: Re: FW: Thanks a few followup questions
OK. The story goes online tomorrow -and in the paper Wednesday. I'd still be interested in what Julie has to say.
-Vaughn
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Sink, Marla <Marla.Sink@ncdenr. og_v> wrote:
Hi Vaughn,
Sorry for the delay in getting back with you. Julie is going to check with the permit writer on your questions re:
manufacturing so we will have to get back with you tomorrow.
I hope that works!
Thank you,
Marla
Marla Sink
Public Information Officer
Department of Environmental Quality
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Division of Water Resources
919 707 9033 office
Marla. sinkO-ncdenr.aov
512 North Salisbury Street
1611 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1611
From: Vaughn Hagerty[mailto:vauQhn.hagerty@Rmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 3:01 PM
To: Sink, Marla <Marla.Sink(&ncdenr.Rov>
Subject: Thanks a few followup questions
Hi, Marla. I had a few followup questions for Connie (or others, where appropriate):
1) Connie mentioned that Mike Johnson at Chemours provided her with a copy of the November 2016 study. I'm
curious about the nature of that communication. Was it by email? Did he say anything about the study? Did anyone
at DEQ talk to anyone at CFPUA or EPA about it?
2) These two manufacturing descriptions come from Chemours 2016 NPDES renewal app. I'm wondering if Connie
or someone else there can identify which, if any, is the GenX manufacturing process:
i) The HFPO monomer and the Vinyl Ether monomers are used to manufacture various fluorochemical
products such as Chemours Teflon. Wastewater generated from this manufacturing facility is discharged to the
Chemours' wastewater treatment plant."
ii) "The Chemours Company — Fayetteville Works' PPA manufacturing area produces a polymer processing
aid. The processing aid produced in this unit is used in the manufacturing of fluoropolymers and fluorinated
telomers, but none of the produced processing aid is used at the Fayetteville Works site. All process wastewater
generated from this manufacturing facility is collected and shipped off --site for disposal. No process wastewater
from this manufacturing facility is discharged to the Chemours' wastewater treatment plant or to the Cape Fear
River."
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Thanks again for all the help!
Regards,
Vaughn Hagerty
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