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Subject: Fwd: E34 School at Wendell
From: Larry Ragland <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:40:49 -0400
To: Lia Myott Gilleski <[e-mail]>
CC: Brian Conklin <[e-mail]>, Don Hanks <[e-mail]>, Tom Harden
<[e-mail]>
Hi Lia,
The email I sent did not return, so I had no way of knowing about your email address change. Sorry
for the confusion. I am forwarding my original email below for your consideration. Thanks for
getting back to me so we could figure this out.
Larry
Larry J. Ragland, RLA, ASLA
LarryA_McNeelyAssociates.com
McNeely Associates pa
5501 McNeely Drive
PO Drawer 30126
Raleigh, NC 27622
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Cell: [phone]
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Begin forwarded message:
From: Larry Ragland <LarryC-_mcneelyassociates.com>
Date: September 23, 2008 9:18:43 AM EDT
To: "Lia E. Myott" <lia. myott(Qncmail. net>
Cc: Don Hanks <dhanksCa_cherryhuffman.com>, Brian Conklin <[e-mail]>, Tom Harden
<tomharden (a-)-clancytheys.com>, Bennett Jayroe <Bennett cD_mcneelyassociates.com>, "Rana Dydula, PE"
<rdydula(a-)_dewberry.com>
Subject: E34 School at Wendell
Ms Myott,
We were finally able to get a response from Dr. Hunt concerning our original Bio-retention soil mix
specification for this project. As you can see below, his only reservation was the spec for silt + clay
exceeding 12%. I have modified the specification as per his comments (reduced the silt and the
silt+clay from 20% to 12%).
You indicated when we took this project through review that you would be OK with our mix (using
permatill) if Dr. Hunt was OK with it. With the revision noted on the attached PDF file, would you
approve this bio-retention specification for use on the E34 school at Wendell Falls? We were forced
to submit the specification as per the DWQ manual in order to get approval before. McNeely
Associates and the Owner would like to return to the original soil mix specification as much as
possible. With this change, I believe we have met your requirement for Dr. Hunt's approval. Please
let me hear something soon, while we still have time to make this change before installation.
I would also note that this is the specification used for the Carpenter Elementary school in Cary (prior
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to the change requested by Dr Hunt). Those bio-retention basins at Carpenter are still operating
flawlessly and seem to be doing the job they were designed for.
Thank you for your consideration.
Larry
Larry J. Ragland, RLA, ASLA
Larry(5?McNeelyAssociates.com
McNeely Associates pa
5501 McNeely Drive
PO Drawer 30126
Raleigh, NC 27622
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Cell: [phone]
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Begin forwarded message:
From: "Bennett Jayroe" <bennettCaD-mcneelyassociates.com>
Date: September 23, 2008 8:43:01 AM EDT
To: Larry Ragland"' <LarryCa)_mcneelyassociates.com>
Subject: FW: Help Please
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Hunt [mailto:wthunt n,ncsu.edu]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:33 PM
To: Bennett Jayroe
Subject: Re: Help Please
Bennett,
The mix is pretty good, but not quite there. I have no problem with the
fraction associated with permatill, but your silt + clay fraction is 8%
too high (we recommend a max of 12%). I think the system will drain too
slowly due to your 20% fines fraction.
Good luck!
Bill
Dr. Hunt,
I hope you are having a great day after that strong win this weekend.
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We would like to use a bio-retention mix that substitutes some of the sand
in the mix with permatill fines.
We are not allowed to use this mix according to Lia Myott unless we have
your approval.
If you could read through the. attached specifications it would allow us to
use this mix in the future.
Bennett Jayroe III, ASLA
McNeely Associates pa
landscape architects & planning consultants
5501 McNeely Drive
PO Drawer 30126
Raleigh, NC 27622
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
<mailto:Dennis(a,McNeelyAssociates.com> bennett(c),mcneelyassociates.com
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Bill Hunt, Ph.D., PE
Assistant Professor & Extension Specialist
Biological & Agricultural Engineering
North Carolina State University
url: www.bae.ncsu.edu/stormwater
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