NCC192234_Email RE Supplemental NOT Info 4_20230804

Holloman, Tevye L
From: Summers, Kimberly M
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2023 5:36 PM
To: Clark, Paul
Subject: RE: [External] East College Park Inspection Closeout Report request
Hi Paul,
No worries! He has all the closeout reports for the Carolina Cottages projects. Unfortunately, they all have different
project numbers than the one tied to the COC. Heads up there are going to be a couple other builders that are going to
be in this same boat(Unity Three Builders and CB Pugh Enterprises.) Looking at the database, they also used the master
permit number instead of their own.
Looks like the last date of our email chain was 3/7/23.
Thanks,
Kimberly
Kimberly Summers
Environmental Program Consultant
Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Phone: [phone]
FAX: [phone]
Email: kimberly.summersCa)_deg.nc.gov **Please note new email addresses DEQ wide**
Physical Address: 3800 Barrett Drive
Raleigh, NC 27609
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From: Clark, Paul <[e-mail]>
Sent:Wednesday,July 26, 2023 4:18 PM
To: Summers, Kimberly M <[e-mail]>
Cc:Valentine,Thad <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: [External] East College Park Inspection Closeout Report request
Kimberly,Thad,
Hi. I'm sorry that I did not remember that you had responded to NCC192234. Normally, the NOT application requires an
erosionsed inspection closeout report. It sounds as though that cannot be issued in this case. For NOT documentation,
I will include RO emails explaining the situation??? Kimberly, do you happen to remember when you sent the email that
Mr. Greenwood references??? If you don't, I can try to search my emails. Thx.
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Paul Clark
Water Supply Watershed Protection Coordinator
Stormwater Program
Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
Department of Environmental Quality
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From: Keith Greenwood <[e-mail]>
Sent:Wednesday,July 26, 2023 4:08 PM
To: Clark, Paul <[e-mail]>;Valentine,Thad <[e-mail]>; Summers, Kimberly M
<[e-mail]>
Cc: Keith Greenwood <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: [External] East College Park Inspection Closeout Report request
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Paul:
To prevent mass confusion, I was reviewing past emails and saw this correspondence between you and
Kimberly, see below.
All reports have been closed out for Carolina Cottage Company except for WAKE-2018-027 which is the
master ESC permit for the City of Raleigh and has nothing to do with Carolina Cottage Company. Pls correct
me if I am wrong.
From Kimberly:
East College Park is definitely a different kind of beast. WAKE-2018-027 is the master development
plan for East College Park and City of Raleigh is the FRO. Individual builders then obtained lot plans
(and COCs) from us independent of the master plan. All of the projects by the Carolina Cottage builder
can be closed but not WAKE-2018-027. These are separate from the master plan. Looks like Carolina
Cottage COC is NCC192234.
Thad:
Per Kimberly's email below, the inspections have already been completed so no further inspections for
Carolina Cottage Co are required.
So, do I submit now the E-NOT form and the Notice of Termination Certification forms?
Thanks for everyone's assistance.
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Keith Greenwood
919.669.5372
P.O. BOX 1422
Holly Springs,NC 27540-1422
[e-mail]
www.carolinacottagecompany.com
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From: Summers, Kimberly M <[e-mail]>
Date:Tue,Jul 25, 2023 at 4:33 PM
Subject: RE: [External] East College Park Inspection Closeout Report request
To: Keith Greenwood <[e-mail]>, Valentine,Thad <[e-mail]>
Keith,
That master ESC permit(WAKE-2018-027) that Paul is referring to was applied for by the City of Raleigh and should not
be tied to Carolina Cottage (also see our email chain dated 1/20-2/2/23.) Each builder was responsible for getting an
ESC lot plan as part of the Raleigh master plan. The builder's individual plan ID numbers should have been the ones used
to obtain the Certificate of Coverage (COC) and not the Raleigh master plan permit ID number. I think that is where the
confusion is coming from. I had an email chain with Paul Clark who is with the downtown stormwater permitting group
back in February to explain what was going on as the ESC permitting process for this project was different(please see
excerpt below and forward to Paul as needed.)
All the Carolina Cottage ESC permitted projects that were required to have a Certificate of Coverage under stormwater
were closed out and the inspection reports emailed to you on 01/30/23. There are two Carolina Cottage plans that
predate the COC requirement. Let me know if I need to resend those closeout reports.
Thanks,
Kimberly
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Begin email chain with Paul...
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Great. Thx for response.
Paul Clark
Water Supply Watershed Protection Coordinator
Stormwater Program
Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
Department of Environmental Quality
[phone]
[e-mail]
From: Summers, Kimberly M <[e-mail]>
Sent:Tuesday, March 7, 2023 8:49 AM
To: Clark, Paul <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] Re: Open East College Park Projects-Carolina Cottage
That is correct.
Kimberly Summers
Environmental Program Consultant
Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Phone: [phone]
FAX: [phone]
Email: kimberly.summers(a-)_ncdenr.gov
Physical Address: 3800 Barrett Drive
Raleigh, NC 27609
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From: Clark, Paul <[e-mail]>
Sent:Tuesday, March 7, 2023 8:36 AM
To: Summers, Kimberly M <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] Re: Open East College Park Projects-Carolina Cottage
Kimberly,
Hi. Thanks for the response. Ok, since all Carolina Cottage projects are closed/stabilized, I can rescind
NCC192234. Other projects covered under WAKE-2018-027 are covered under different NCG01-COCs??? Thx
Paul Clark
Water Supply Watershed Protection Coordinator
Stormwater Program
Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
Department of Environmental Quality
[phone]
[e-mail]
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From: Summers, Kimberly M <[e-mail]>
Sent:Tuesday, March 7, 2023 8:24 AM
To: Clark, Paul <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [External] Re: Open East College Park Projects-Carolina Cottage
Hi Paul,
East College Park is definitely a different kind of beast. WAKE-2018-027 is the master development plan for East College
Park and City of Raleigh is the FRO. Individual builders then obtained lot plans (and COCs)from us independent of the
master plan. All of the projects by the Carolina Cottage builder can be closed but not WAKE-2018-027. These are
separate from the master plan. Looks like Carolina Cottage COC is NCC192234.
Give me a call if you have any questions.
Kimberly Summers
Environmental Program Consultant
Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality
Phone: [phone]
FAX: [phone]
Email: kimberly.summers(a-)_ncdenr.gov
Physical Address: 3800 Barrett Drive
Raleigh, NC 27609
Mailing Address: 1628 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-1612
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From: Keith Greenwood <[e-mail]>
Sent:Tuesday,July 25, 2023 3:29 PM
To:Valentine,Thad <[e-mail]>
Cc: Summers, Kimberly M <[e-mail]>; Keith Greenwood <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [External] East College Park Inspection Closeout Report request
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Thad:
Thanks.
Kimberly:
Pls inspect and let me know as soon as you can.
Thanks

Keith Greenwood
919.669.5372
P.O. BOX 1422
Holly Springs,NC 27540-1422
[e-mail]
www.carolinacottagecompany.com
On Tue,Jul 25, 2023 at 2:36 PM Valentine,Thad <[e-mail]>wrote:
Keith
You will need to speak with Kimberly Summers for a closeout inspection of that site. Kimberly's last inspection noted
ongoing lot development and didn't close out the site, so she will need to inspect for closure at her convenience. I have
included her in this email, but contact her yourself with your request.
Thad Valentine
Environmental Senior Specialist— RRO
Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources —Land Quality Section
Department of Environmental Quality
919 791 4220 office
thad.valentinea-ncdenr.gov
1628 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, North Carolina 27699
From: Keith Greenwood <[e-mail]>
Sent:Tuesday,July 25, 2023 1:10 PM
To: Denton, Bill <[e-mail]>; Fayad, Abdulrahman B<[e-mail]>; Reinhardt,
Dylan <[e-mail]>;Amaya, Celina M <[e-mail]>; Frazier, Mattie K
<[e-mail]>; [e-mail]; Hufnal,Tyler<[e-mail]>; Summers, Kimberly
M <[e-mail]>;Valentine,Thad <[e-mail]>
Subject: [External] East College Park Inspection Closeout Report request
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All:
Paul Clark with the Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources Department of Environmental
Quality sent me this email, see below, and instructed me to reach out to you to send me the closeout
inspection report that has been done before I can close out our permit by submitting both the Notice of
Termination request form and the Notice of Termination Certification Form.
Let me know so that I can take the next step to submit these two forms:
From Paul:
"To rescind NCC192234, the erosion/sedimentation inspection closeout report for WAKE-2018-027
(attached) is uploaded as part of the eNOT process. NCDEQ-DEMLR-Raleigh Regional Office would have
issued the inspection closeout report.
Please contact RRO and they should be able to tell you if the closeout inspection report has been
done and also provide it to you.
This closeout report is one of the items uploaded as part of the eNOT process.
Please contact me with other questions. Thx."
Thanks
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Keith Greenwood
919.669.5372
P.O. BOX 1422
Holly Springs,NC 27540-1422
[e-mail]
www.carolinacottagecompany.com
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