NC0045993_Wasteload Allocation_19890306

NPDES DOCUMENT SCANNING COVER SHEET
NC0045993
Teledyne ALLVAC WWTP
NPDES Permit:
Document Type:
Permit Issuance
Wasteload Allocation
Authorization to Construct (AtC)
Permit Modification
Complete File - Historical
Engineering Alternatives (EAA)
Correspondence
Owner Name Change
Plan of Action
Instream Assessment (67b)
Speculative Limits
Environmental Assessment (EA)
Document Date:
March 6, 1989
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NPDES WASTE LOAD ALLOCATION
PERMIT NO.: NCOO
FACILITY NAME: J .at - nkrvto€ Y`
Facility Status:~E7ts1_ =
(clrcl. one)
PROPOSED
Pe r m i t Status:( KE?€WAAL MODIFICATION UNPERMrrrED NEW
(circl. one)
Major Minor
Pipe No•
Design Capacity (MGD):
Domestic (% of Flow):
Industrial (% of Flow):
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RECEIVING STREAM: _ &Lei
Class:
Sub -Basin: Q 3-07--,4-
Reference USGS Quad: /4 /6 �( (please attach)
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County.
Regional Office:
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Requested
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By c7ztie( 1.4A444.
Reviewed By:
Date:
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Drainage Area (mil)
Modeler
Date Rec.
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Avg. Streamflow (cfs):
7Q10 (cfs)0 1L.Winter 7Q10 (cis)
30Q2 (cfs) Q's
Toxicity Limits: IWC % (circle on.) Acute / 4Chronic
Instream Monitoring:
Parameters
Upstream Location
Downstream Location
Effluent
Characteristics
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FOR APPROPRIATE DISCHARGERS, LIST COMPLETE GUIDELINE LIMITATIONS BELOW
Effluent Characteristics
Monthly
Average
Daily
Maximum
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Effluent Characteristics Discharge Limitations
Kg/day (lbs/daY)
Daily Avg. Daily Max.
Flow
Oi1 & Grease
Nickel
Flotiride
Copper
'Zinc
Temperature
Final
A. (1). EFFLUENT LIMITATIONS AND MONITORING REQUIREMENTS
`," '` and lasting until expiration, the
During the period beginning on the effective date of the Permit
permittee is authorized to discharge
monitoredaby(the) spermitteebas(speci�� ed below:
Such discharges shall be limitedand
Monitoring Requirements
Other Units (Specify) Measurement
Daily Avg. Daily Max. Frequency
Monthly
10 mg/1 15 mg/1 Quarterly
1.0 mg/1 2.0 mg/1 Quarterly
5.0 mg/1 10.0 mg/1 Quarterly
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Quarterly
Quarterly
Quarterly
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**Sample * Sample
Type Location
Instantaneous
Grab
Grab
Grab
Grab
Grab
Grab
*1 - Influent, E - Effluent, U - Upstream, D - Downstream
**All stream samples shall be grab samples.
***The temperature shall be such as tonlnWatercause
teman eratureasarxiintemperature
cau�e the temperatf the ure
stream of 2.f3 C above ambient strea o P
in the receiving stream to exceed 32 C.
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The pH shall not be less than 6.0 standard units nor greater than 9.0 standard units
and sh:►11 be monitored quarterly at E, U, D by grab samples.
There shall be no discharge of floating solids or visible foam in other than trace amounts.

COMPLIANCE EVALUATION ANALYSIS REPORT
O2/iO/89
PAGE 1
PERMIT--NC0045993 PIPE--001 REPORT PERIOD: 8801-8812 LOC--- E
FACILITY--TELEDYNE ALLVAC-MONROE PLANT DESIGN FLOW-- .00OO CLASS--O
LOCATION--MONROE REGION/COUNTY--03 UNION
50050 000i0 00400 00556 00951 01042 01067 01092 |
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MONTH Q/MGD TEMP PH OIL-GR%E FLUORIDE COPPER NICKEL ZINC
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LIMIT NOL NOL 9.0 6.0 F 10.000
88/Oi .0432 10.50 8.6-7.6
88/02 .0288 13.83 8.1-7.5
88/03 .0088 19.00 8.5-7.5
88/04 .0027 19.50 8.i-7.4
88/05 .00Oi 25.25 8.5-7.6 16.000F
88/06 .0016 28.80 8.7-7.7
LIMIT NOL NOL 9.0 6.8 F 10.000 F 5.000 NOL F 1.0000 NOL
88/87 .00) 7^9-7.6 16.00OF 2.580 ` .O500 .1500 .O90O
88/08 -0640 31.00 8.0-7.8
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|88/09 3240 27.00 8.0-7.6
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88/10 .8600 24.00 8.0-7.6
88/11 .0480 18.50 7.8-7.7
88/12 .0080 12.20 7.7-7.4 1.500 .880O .0430 .0400
AVERAGE .0331 20.87 ________ 16.000 2.000 .0650 .0965 .0650
MAXIMUM .i240 31.08 8.708 16.000 2.500 .0800 .1500 .0900
MINIMUM .00OO 10.50 7.400 16.000 i.5OO .O50O .0430 .0400
UNIT MCD DEG.0 %U MG/L MG/L UG/L MG/L UG/L

Request No. :5113
Permit Number
Facility Name
Type of Waste
Status
Receiving Stream
Stream Class
Subbasin
County
Regional Office
Requestor
Date of Request
Quad
WASTELDAD ALLOCATION
APPROVAL FORM
: NC0045993
: TELEDYNE ALLVAC - MONROE PLANT
: INDUSTRIAL
: EXISTING
: RICHARDSON CREEK
: C
: 030714
: UNION Drainage Area
: MRO Average Flow
: LULA HARRIS Summer 7Q10
: 2/10/89 Winter 7Q10
: H16NE 30Q2
Wasteflow
Flouride
Nickel
Oil & Grease
pH
RECOMMENDED EFFLUENT LIMITS
: Mon Ave Dal
(mgd): 0.124
(mg/1):
(ug/1):
(mg/1): 10
(SU):
Upstream (Y/N):
Downstream (Y/N):
Location:
Location:
Max
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MONITORING
COMMENTS
MAR 3 1989
PERir;UUS E r,
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(sq mi)
(cfs)
(cfs)
(cfs)
(cfs)
: 53
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: 0.15
0.2
. 0.5
N. C. DEPT. OF NA
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THE DISCHARGE SHALL NOT CAUSE THE RECEIVING WATER'S TEMPERATURE TO EXCEED
2.8°C ABOVE BACKGROUND AND IN NO CASE CAUSE IT TO EXCEED 32°C.
RECOMMEND EFFLUENT MONITORING FOR COPPER AND ZINC.
THESE LIMITS ARE FOR THE EXISTING TREATMENT FACILITY - COOLING WATER ONLY.
SEE ATTACHED TOXICITY TESTIING REQUIREMENT.
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Recommended by
Reviewed by:
`TViTech. Support Supervisor
�1yyRegional Supervisor
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Date c� as v1
Date
Date
Date
MAR 28 1989
RETURN TO TECHNICAL SERVICES BY .

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CHRONIC TOXICITY TESTING REQUIREMENT (QRTRLY)
The effluent discharge shall at no time exhibit chronic toxicity in any two consecutive toxicity tests,
using test procedures outlined in:
1.) The North Carolina Ceriodaphnia chronic effluent bioassay procedure (North Carolina Chronic
Bioassay Procedure - Revised *February 1987) or subsequent versions.
The effluent concentration at which there may be no observable inhibition of reproduction or
significant mortality is 56 % (defined as treatment two in the North Carolina procedur
document). The permit holder shall perfomr quarter(v monitoring using this procedure to establish
compliance with the permit condition. The first test vi11 be performed after thirty days from
issuance of this permit during the months of lib, /tie{ . Effluent
sampling for this testing shall be performed at the �1PDES pertiitted final effluent discharge below
all treatment processes.
All toxicity testing results required as part of this permit condition will be entered on the Effluent
Discharge Monitoring Form (MR-1) for the month in which it was performed, using the parameter
code TGP3B. Additionally, DEM Form AT-1 (original) is to be sent to the following aJdress:
Attention: Technical Services Branch
North Carolina Division of
Environmental Management
P.O. Box 27687
Raleigh, N.C. 27611
Test data shall be complete and accurate and include all supporting chemical/physical r asurements
performed in association with the toxicity tests, as well as all dose/response data. Total residual
chlorine of the effluent toxicity sample must be measured and reported if chlorine is ernoloyed for
disinfection of the waste stream.
Should any single quarterly monitoring indicate a failure to meet specified limits, then monthly
monitoring will begin immediately until such time that a single test is passed. Upon passing, this
monthly test requirement will revert to quarterly in the months specified above.
Should any test data from this monitoring requirement or tests performed by the North Carolina
Division of Environmental Management indicate potential impacts to the receiving strea.n, this
permit may be re -opened and modified to include alternate monitoring requirements or mils.
NOTE: Failure to achieve test conditions as specified in the cited document, such as mnmimum
control organism survival and appropriate environmental controls, shall constitute an ir.:-alid test
and will require immediate retesting(within 30 days of initial monitoring event). Failure to submit
suitable test results will constitute noncompliance with monitoring requirements.
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Permited Flow e. MGD
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MASS BALANCE EQUATIONS FOR INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES
Discharger:
Receiving stream:
Stream Class:
USGS Zone:
7Q10:
Design flow:
Percent industrial:
IWC:
Pollutant Standard/AL
(mg/1)
Cadmium
Chromium
Copper
Nickel
Lead
Zinc
Cyanide
Mercury
Silver
0.002
0.05
0.015
0.05
0.025
0.05
0.005
0.0002
0.01
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0.150
0.124
100.0
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USGS
Background
Conc
(mg/1)
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
02/06/89
Allowable
Effluent
Conc (c)
(mg/1)
0.0036
0.0890
0.0267
0.0890
0.0445
0.0890
0.0089
0.0004
0.0178

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DIVISION OF ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT
January 30, 1989
MEMORANDUM TO: Dale Overcash
Trevor Clements
FROM: Thurman Horne
SUBJECT:
Draft Permit for Teledyne Allvac
NC 0045993
Union County, North Carolina
The subject draft permit contains effluent limits for
Fluoride and Nickel that are considerably more stringent than
existing permit limitations. These limits are described below:
Existing Permit Limits Prop. New Limits
(Daily Avg.) (Daily Max.) (Daily Max.)
Fluoride
Nickel
5.0 mg/1 10.0 mg/1
1000 ug/1 2000 ug/1
2.4 mg/1
67 ug/1
In discussions with Mr. Don Bailey, P. E., Director of
Engineering, we have been advised that Teledyne foresees
difficulty complying with the proposed new limits and questions
why there was such a significant change. In discussing this
matter with Carla Sanderson, it appears that the principal
reason for the change is that a much larger discharge flow (.288
MGD) has been used as compared to the flow used in the previous
Waste Load Allocation (<.003 MGD).
The discharge flow of .288 MGD was obtained from Teledyne's
application documents but, it should be noted that this reflects
maximum discharge flow and not average daily flow. Teledyne has
provided the attached letter dated January 16, 1989 which
provides an estimated average daily flow.
Teledyne's treatment facility is two (2) large cooling
ponds in series which receive contact and non -contact cooling
water, water filter backwash and storm runoff. Teledyne reuses

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Dale Overcash
Trevor Clements
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January 30, 1989
water from the ponds as makeup water for process uses. Process
wastewaters are discharged into the municipal sewer system.
The discharge from the lower cooling pond only occurs
during wet weather periods when the amount of extraneous flow
into the ponds exceeds the recycling needs of the plant thus
creating an overflow. Obviously this discharge will not be
occurring under 7Q10 conditions. It is obviously inappropriate
to base effluent limitations for this facility on a scenario of
a maximum daily discharge flow occurring during summer 7Q10
stream flow conditions. At the least, we believe it is more
appropriate to evaluate the limits based on the reported average
daily discharge flow as reported in the attached letter.
The Mooresville Regional office suggests that this
information be considered and that Technical Services reconsider
the appropriateness of the proposed limitations.
If you have any questions or if you need any additional
information, please advise.
Attachment
JTH:se

RECEIVED January 16, 1989
OMS10N 17E ENVIRONMENT►L MARASEMi j
JAN 18 1989
MOORESVILLE
*EC10NAL Off1G�
Mr. Thruman Horne, P.E.
Division of Environmental Management
P.O. Box 950
Mooresville, NC 28115-950
Dear Mr. Horne:
WTELEDYNE
ALLVAC
P.O. BOX 5030
MONROE, NORTH CAROLINA 28110-0531
[phone] TWX [phone]
Please find below a list of Teledyne Allvac's average daily flow readings
for the months April through December 1988 as we discussed on the
telephone.
April 0.00279 MGD
May 0.000111 MGD
June 0.0016 MGD
July 0.017 MGD
Average daily flow for the nine
Aug
Sept
Oct
Nov
De c
.060 MGD
0.048 MGD
0.0080 MGD
months is .036167 MGD.
It is felt that this is a representative effluent flow from the lower
cooling pond for developing N.P.D.E.S. effluent limits. In most cases,
the only time there is an effluent flow to Richardson Creek is during
periods of wet weather which results from storm water run-offs into the
cooling ponds.
Please notify me if you have any additional need for information concerning
this matter. Thank you for the opportunity to express our concerns over
the present proposed N.P.D.E.S. limits and your consideration in that
regard.
Sincerely,
Don M. Bailey, P.E.
Director of Engineering
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Date: December 9, 1988
NPDES STAFF REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS
County: Union
NPDES Permit No. NC 0045993
PART I - GENERAL INFORMATION
1. Facility and Address: Teledyne Allvac (Monroe Plant)
Post Office Box 5030
Monroe, North Carolina 28110-0531
2. Date of Investigation: December 1, 1988
3. Report Prepared By: J. Thurman Horne, P. E.
4. Person Contacted and Telephone Number: Mr. Don M. Bailey,
P. E.; 704/289-4511
5. Directions to Site: In Monroe, traveling east on Highway
74, turn left on Walkup Avenue, travel approximately 0.2
mile, turn right on Sutherland Avenue, travel approximately
0.2 mile, turn left on Ashcraft Avenue, travel
approximately 0.4 mile. Teledyne Allvac is on the right
(south) side of Ashcraft Avenue.
6. Discharge Point - Latitude: 34° 59' 05"
Longitude: 80° 30' 30"
Attach a USGS Map Extract and indicate treatment plant site
and discharge point on map.
USGS Quad No.: H 16 NE
7. Size (land available for expansion and upgrading): The
existing site encompasses approximately 50 acres. There is
adequate land available for future expansion and
modifications.
8. Topography (relationship to flood plain included): The
terrain is mildly rolling with slopes generally less than
10%. The existing site is well removed from any flood
plains.
9. Location of Nearest Dwelling: None within 500 feet.
10. Receiving Stream or Affected Surface Waters: Richardson
Creek
a. Classification: C
b. River Basin and Subbasin No.: 03-07-14

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c. Describe receiving stream features and pertinent
downstream uses: The receiving stream is small and
shallow. The point of discharge is approximately 0.8
mile downstream from a dam impounding Lake Lee. The
only known uses of the stream for a reasonable
distance below the discharge is for secondary
recreation and agriculture.
PART II - DESCRIPTION OF DISCHARGE AND TREATMENT WORKS
1. Type of wastewater: 0% Domestic
100% Industrial
a. Volume of Wastewater: .288 MGD
b. Types and quantities of industrial wastewater:
Industrial wastewater discharges flow into a cooling
pond (7 million gallon capacity). This pond also
receives storm runoff. The majority of the water from
the pond is recycled. Therefore, the volume
discharged to surface waters is only a fraction of the
total wastewater produced from the various industrial
processes. Included with the permit application is a
flow diagram showing the various volumes and sources
of wastewater which are tributary to the pond. Based
on the this information, it is estimated that the
wastewater discharged to surface waters is comprised
of the following percentages of industrial
wastewaters:
1. Non -contact cooling water - 59%
2. Contact cooling water - 32%
3. Cooling tower water - 7%
4. Water filter backwash - 2%
Note: The water filter backwash is generated from the
filtration of water extracted from the ponds that is
being reused in the plant processes.
c. Prevalent toxic constituents in wastewater: The
application contains sampling results which indicate
the presence of Fluoride, Oil & Grease, Boron, Copper,
Nickel and Zinc. The application also indicates that
the following chemicals are added to the cooling
waters: 1) Potassium Permanganate, 2) Calcium
Hypoclorite and 3) a corrosion inhibitor - C395
manufactured by Industrial Maintenance Corporation.
See Attachment "a" for a summary of sampling results.
d. Pretreatment Program (POTWs only): N/A
2. Production Rates (industrial discharges only) in Pounds:
a. Highest month in the last 12 months:

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Nickel -Cobalt Forming - 600,000; Titanium Forming -
300,000
b. Highest year in last 5 years
Nickel -Cobalt Forming - 7,200,000; Titanium Forming -
3,600,000
Note: Production rates are based on information provided
during site investigation. These are the quantities of
metal produced which generate contact cooling water.
3. Description of Industrial Process (for industries only) and
Applicable CFR Part and Subpart: Nonferrous Metals
Category: 1) Nickel and Cobalt Subcategory; 2) Titanium
Subcategory
4. Type of Treatment (specify whether proposed or existing):
Wastewater enters either of two (2) existing cooling ponds
(in series). Water from the ponds is recycled. Overflow
from the lower pond passes through an oil skimmer prior to
discharge.
5. Sludge Handling and Disposal Scheme: Due to the nature of
the wastewaters and the volume of the cooling ponds, sludge
has not accumulated in sufficient quantities to require
removal nor is this anticipated to happen.
6. Treatment Plant Classification: Class I
7. SIC Code(s): 3356
Wastewater Code(s): 14 15 17 21
PART III - OTHER PERTINENT INFORMATION
1. Is this facility being constructed with Construction Grants
Funds (municipals only)? N/A
2. Special monitoring requests: Continued monitoring for
Nickel, Fluoride, Copper and Zinc.
3. Additional effluent limits requests: Nickel and Fluoride
4. Other: None

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PART IV - EVALUATION AND RECOMMENDATIONS
It is recommended that the Permit be renewed as requested.
(Sig atfv of Report Preparer
Water Quality R ional Supervisor
cc: Eric Klingel

Attachment A
Summary of Sampling Results
Teledyne Allvac-Monroe Plant
Month Flow Oil & Grease Nickel Fluoride Copper Zinc
MGD mg/1 mg/1 mg/1 mg/1 mg/1
10/88 .060
9/88 .124
8/88 .064
7/88 .017 16 .015 2.5 .05 .09
6/88 .0016
5/88 .000111 16 .015 2.54 .05 .09
4/88 .00279
3/88 0 24 .05 .06 .03
2/88 .0288
1/88 .0432
12/87 .0435 10 .27 3.42 .12 .056
11/87 0
Teledyne Allvac
Sample Collected
on 7/22/88
8
.06 2.2 .03 .095
Avg. 14.8 .062 2.66 .062 .072
WQ Standard .05 1.8
Action Level .015 .050

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WASTE LOAD ALLOCATION APPROVAL FORM
Facility Name:
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County: LioCov Sub -basin:
Regional Office: Mc ,-( y� ,k Requester:
Type of Wastewater: Industrial IOC)
Domestic
If industrial, specify type(s) of industry: icC"Zc•
l Cora? '‘„clA_•- C-C A47 t -C
Receiving stream: 9.4110..rC`.t1-4ti1 C,^t�I,:::- Class: C!-
Other stream(s) affected: Class:
7Q10 flow at point of discharge: i C -C-S
30Q2 flow at point of discharge: , 2 cS
Natural stream drainage area at discharge point:
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Recommended Effluent Limitations
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This allocation is:
Recommended and reviewed by:
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Reviewed by: ; •, %
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Permits Manager
Approved by:
Division Director
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�or a proposed facility •�-t�-"�"''
/ltor a new (existing) facility
/ / a revision of existing limitations
/ / a confirmation of existing limitations
Date: t(g I S
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DIVISION OF ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT
October 25, 1988
Memorandum
To: Dale Overcash
From: Carla Sanderson
Through: David Vogt
Trevor Clementsa
Subject: Teledyne Allvac Monroe Plant
NPDES Permit No. NC0045993
WLA Renewal Request
On August 8, 1988 I received a WLA request for renewal of the
Teledyne Allvac NPDES permit. Since ammonia is part of the in-
dustrial waste for this facility, a Level-B analysis was per-
formed. From this analysis it was determined that the facility
would receive a stricter limit for ammonia than the BPT given per
federal guidelines. Thurman Horne of the Mooresville Regional
Office was contacted to inform him of the more stringent ammonia
limit for this facility. I am awaiting information from Thurman
before processing the WLA.
cc: Thurman Horne