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From: David Newsom <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 8:09 AM
To: Scott, Georgette
Cc: Lewis,Linda
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
I am tack in the office for a Lit this morning....: will tr, a-nd gee: the Hurst Harbor drawing o A to you folks this
morning...... Timing of your call was certainly coincidental.....as I has just that very morning received ar email from the
HOA saying they approved the concept and authorized me to submit the drawing.
From: Scott, Georgette[mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:41 AM
To: David Newsom <[e-mail]>
Cc: Lewis,Linda <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
Importance: High
David,
We have not received anything on this and will have to send back by Friday next week (Jan 22.2016) if we don't get the
final drawings for this. Please submit the changes immediately.
Thanks
Georgette
From: David Newsom [mailto:crystalcoasteng bizec.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:33 AM
To: Lewis,Linda <[e-mail]>
Cc: Scott, Georgette <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
Please bear with me on this.....Hope to get you something very very soon......
I think the HOA members have finally come to consensus....
I think you guys will be happy with the proposed solution.
From: Lewis,Linda Finailto:linda.lewis(&ncdenr.00v]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:41 AM
To: David Newsom
Cc: Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
Hey Dave:
I discussed with Georgette and here's our proposed solution:

A :,a:r dor.. the pipe belowthe po'nt� � urrenCy shiwn an the July 2G''r plans at the new junction box, keeping the pine
alp we t,-z t point. We're CK. v ith addirir., the 1.5" pipe under tie new AFDC Driveway and rceeping the existing pipe under
the e.:.ir,ting sh.e!I rock: arive;VvaV.
Please cpd:d the inverts for the existing drop inlets, ti:e existing pipe and the existing swaies, a ,d the inverts of the
nrop_sed u ct;c , box and the new 15" HDPE pipe..
Please add the 3^' buffer Kne to the plans.
You're shoeing an existing (or is it proposed?) rip rap energy dissip.ator pad at the end of the s�,-vale. Piease provide a
st,ia'e detail (3:1 or flatter -.lopes) and a detail for thai- rip rap pad des;'gn, section views, dimensions, etc..
Add a permanent check darn at the end of the swaie to force the runoff to pond up a little bit to r llow infiltration to
occdrr tiFfore being releaseV to the energy dissipator. ,odd appropriate details to t-he plans.
Eaixe. natively, design a ieve! sNr2Guer or r„ of those "feathered trapezoidal s, vales" to pre note a sheet flow condition
through the 30' buffer. Ado; appropriate dletai s to the plans.
Mr:k:.e sure thle energy dissipator and/cr the feathered a S ac^. of the swage stay out of the 30' buffer and promote sheet
t;rough the buffer.
Linda
From: David Newsom [mailto:crystalcoasteng(c bizec.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 7:38 AM
To: Lewis,Linda
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
I understand.
Would not be a precedent, however, as at ieast one other project (PlggsfWX0 I believe would perhaps have the honor of
being such precedent.
'Edith regard to "mitigation BMP"......I can't answer that without talking with the HOA .... but that certainly sounds
reasonable to me.
You talk to Ms. Scott ..... I will talk to the HOA.
From: Lewis, Linda[mailto:linda.lewisC&ncdenr.govl
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 4:27 PM
To: David Newsom
Cc: Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
i'll talk to Georgette about what options might be workable and get back to you.
r�yy main concern is that this piping got insta lead by someone at some point after- the Homeowner's Park plan was
approved in 1992. 1 don't want to set a precedent :f retroactively allowing piping that was installed without approval
and which is in violation of the low density rules, to remain as 2 permitted feature. Allowing it to remain will most likely
require the addition of some sort of mitigation BMP such as a bioretention area or infiltration gallery at the end of the
pipe. Do you think that would be acceptable to the HOA?
Linda

205 Ward Road— Unit #3
Swansboro, N.C. 28584
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
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To: Linda Lewis
Environmental Engineer III
Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
Wilmington Regional Office
127 Cardinal Dr
Wilmington, NC 28405
Re Hurst Harbor
❑ Urgent ❑ For Review ❑ Please Comment
Attached: (1) Copy of Final Plans
Comments:
From: Crystal Coast Engineering
Date: 1 /14/16
❑ Please Reply ❑ Please Recycle
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BY:

Scott, Georgette
From:
Scott, Georgette
Sent:
Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:41 AM
To:
'David Newsom'
Cc:
Lewis,Linda
Subject:
RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 990516
Importance: High
David,
We have not received anything on this and will have to send back by Friday next week (Jan 22.2016) if we don't get the
final drawings for this. Please submit the changes immediately.
Thanks
Georgette
From: David Newsom [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:33 AM
To: Lewis,Linda <[e-mail]>
Cc: Scott, Georgette <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
Please bear with me on this ..... Hope to get you something very very soon......
I think the HOA members have finally come to consensus....
I think you guys will be happy with the proposed solution.
From: Lewis,Linda [mailto:linda.lewis(@ncdenr gov]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:41 AM
To: David Newsom
Cc: Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
Hey Dave:
I discussed with Georgette and here's our proposed solution:
Abandon the pipe below the point currently shown on the July 2014 plans at the new junction box, keeping the pipe
above that point. We're OK with adding the 15" pipe under the new ABC Driveway and keeping the existing pipe under
the existing shell rock driveway.
Please add the inverts for the existing drop inlets, the existing pipe and the existing swales, and the inverts of the
proposed junction box and the new 15" HDPE pipe.
Please add the 30' buffer line to the plans.
You're showing an existing (or is it proposed?) rip rap energy dissipator pad at the end of the swale. Please provide a
swale detail (3:1 or flatter slopes) and a detail for that rip rap pad design, section views, dimensions, etc.
Add a permanent check dam at the end of the swale to force the runoff to pond up a little bit to allow infiltration to
occur before being released to the energy dissipator. Add appropriate details to the plans.

Lewis,Unda
From:
Lewis,Linda
Sent:
Monday, August 31, 2015 10:11 AM
To:
'David Newsom'
Cc-
Scott, Georgette
Subject:
RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
Hey Dave. Georgette and I agree that this proposal looks very reasonable.
Thank you.
Linda
From: David Newsom [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:14 AM
To: 'David Newsom'; Lewis,Linda
Cc: Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
Please see attached PRELIMINARY drawing.
As you can see ..... this drawing would require removal of most, but not all, of the storm drain piping. The portion I
indicate remaining conveys water from the upstream NCDOT right of way...... beneath Wind Dance Lane and along the
northwesterly property boundary with the adjacent Hammocks Point Subdivision.
As you can see in the attached photo....there is an existing, and quite elaborate (expensive) brick / iron fence that has
been installed IMMEDIATELY adjacent to the existing stormdrain. It is not possible to remove that portion of the
stormdrain without destroying that fence. As you can probably imagine, the homeowners in both subdivisions very
much would like to retain that brick/iron fenceline. The remainder of the fence is wood ..... and I believe we could fairly
easily remove the piping and re-establish a 3:1 swale in that area.
Does this seem reasonable from DENR perspective? If so, I will present this to the HOA and see if I can't get a
commitment from this to remove that portion of the piping.
Thanks
From: David Newsom fmailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 10:08 AM
To: 'Lewis,Linda'
Cc: 'Scott, Georgette'
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
Got your letter of August 14, 2015 with regard to subject project.
Just met with the HOA....and they have authorized me to address that letter on their behalf.
I will be working on this over the weekend..... and hopefully respond back to you next week.
Thank you for your patience.

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by John Worrell, President HOA and
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Hurst Harbor HomeowneCs Association
Swansboro Township - Onslow County
Civil and Environmental Consulting Engineers
David K. Newsom, PE
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John R. Freshwater, PE
DATE: 4/3/ts
PROJECT:
205-3 WARD ROAD, SWANSBORO, N.C. 28584
PHONE [phone] - FAX: [phone]
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Lewis,Unda
From: David Newsom <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 10:08 AM
To: Lewis,Linda
Cc- Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
Got your letter of August 14, 2015 with regard to subject project.
Just met with the HOA.... and they have authorized me to address that letter on their behalf.
I will be working on this over the weekend..... and hopefully respond back to you next week.
Thank you for your patience.
From: Lewis, Linda [mailto:Iinda.lewis(&ncdenr ci
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 4:27 PM
To: David Newsom
Cc: Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
I'll talk to Georgette about what options might be workable and get back to you.
My main concern is that this piping got installed by someone at some point after the Homeowner's Park plan was
approved in 1992. 1 don't want to set a precedent of retroactively allowing piping that was installed without approval
and which is in violation of the low density rules, to remain as a permitted feature. Allowing it to remain will most likely
require the addition of some sort of mitigation BMP such as a bioretention area or infiltration gallery at the end of the
pipe. Do you think that would be acceptable to the HOA?
Linda
From: David Newsom fmailto:[e-mail]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 7:41 AM
To: Lewis,Linda
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
Meant to talk with you a bit yesterday about this project .... but forgot.
I did meet with Hurst Harbor HOA......
No problem with below comments 1-4.
5 however, could be a little problematic.
Removal of piping at the upper end will be difficult due to its proximity to property line and fencing on the other side of
line (a different subdivision entirely).
Removal of piping at the lower end will make boat trailer maneuvering difficult.... and likely that trailers tires would be
into the ditch... possibly creating an problem keeping a vegetated ditch stable.

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North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources
Pat McCrory
Governor
August 14, 2015
Hurst Harbor Association
John Worrell, President
PO Box 516
Swansboro, NC 28584
Subject: Request for Additional Information
Hurst Harbor Subdivision
Stonmwater Permit No. SW8 920516
Onslow County
Dear Mr. Worrell:
Donald van der Vaart
Secretary
This project popped up on a recent status report as being "in review" for 328 days. The Division
received your request to revise the approved Homeowners Park plan on July 21, 2014. The Division
notified your consultant, Dave Newsom, P.E., Crystal Coast Engineering, on October 9, 2014 via email,
(copy attached) requesting additional information regarding the necessary revisions to the Homeowners
Park plan. The main concern was the amount of proposed piping on the plan, which did not meet the
low density rules. Under low density, stormwater must be conveyed via vegetated conveyances.
Minimal piping under a road or a driveway to provide access to a lot is not a problem, however long
runs of runoff collection piping with inlets and junction boxes cannot be approved under low density.
To date, the Division has not received the requested plan revisions and is considering returning the
application as incomplete unless the information requested on October 9, 2014, is received by
September 14, 2015. If you have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact
me at [phone] or email me at linda.lewisftncdenr.gov
Sincerely,
e,(,� d,,- 6�"
Linda Lewis
Environmental Engineer III
DS/arl: G:1W=haredlStormwateAPermits & Projects119921920516 LD12015 08 addinfo 920516
cc: Onslow County Building Inspections
Barry Guthrie, DCM-Morehead City
Dave Newsom, P.E., Crystal Coast Engineering
Wilmington Regional Office Stormwater File
Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
Land Quality Section - Wilmington Regional Office
127 Cardinal Drive Extension, Wilmington, North Carolina 28405
[phone] / Fax: [phone] - Internet: http:aortal.nodenr.om/web/Ir/

Lewis,Lincla
From:
Lewis,Linda
Sent:
Thursday, October 09, 201410:41 AM
To:
'David Newsom'
Cc:
Scott, Georgette
Subject:
RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
Hey Dave:
I discussed with Georgette and here's our proposed solution:
Abandon the pipe below the point currently shown on the July 2014 plans at the new junction box, keeping the pipe
above that point. We're OK with adding the 15" pipe under the new ABC Driveway and keeping the existing pipe under
the existing shell rock driveway.
Please add the inverts for the existing drop inlets, the existing pipe and the existing swales, and the inverts of the
proposed junction box and the new 15" HDPE pipe.
Please add the 30' buffer line to the plans.
You're showing an existing (or is it proposed?) rip rap energy dissipator pad at the end of the swale. Please provide a
swale detail (3:1 or flatter slopes) and a detail for that rip rap pad design, section views, dimensions, etc.
Add a permanent check dam at the end of the swale to force the runoff to pond up a little bit to allow infiltration to
occur before being released to the energy dissipator. Add appropriate details to the plans.
Alternatively, design a level spreader or one of those "feathered trapezoidal swales" to promote a sheet flow condition
through the 30' buffer. Add appropriate details to the plans.
Make sure the energy dissipator and/or the feathered area of the swale stay out of the 30' buffer and promote sheet
flow through the buffer.
Linda
From: David Newsom [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 7:38 AM
To: Lewis,Linda
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
I understand.
Would not be a precedent, however, as at least one other project (Rlggsfield) I believe would perhaps have the honor of
being such precedent.
With regard to "mitigation BMP ....... I can't answer that without talking with the HOA.... but that certainly sounds
reasonable to me.
You talk to Ms. Scott ..... I will talk to the HOA.

From: Lewis,Linda [mailto:linda.lewisOncdenr.govl
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 4:27 PM
To: David Newsom
Cc: Scott, Georgette
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
I'll talk to Georgette about what options might be workable and get back to you.
My main concern is that this piping got installed by someone at some point after the Homeowner's Park plan was
approved in 1992. 1 don't want to set a precedent of retroactively allowing piping that was installed without approval
and which is in violation of the low density rules, to remain as a permitted feature. Allowing it to remain will most likely
require the addition of some sort of mitigation BMP such as a bioretention area or infiltration gallery at the end of the
pipe. Do you think that would be acceptable to the HOA?
Linda
From: David Newsom fmailto:[e-mail]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 7:41 AM
To: Lewis,Linda
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
Meant to talk with you a bit yesterday about this project .... but forgot.
I did meet with Hurst Harbor HOA......
No problem with below comments 1— 4.
5 however, could be a little problematic.
Removal of piping at the upper end will be difficult due to its proximity to property line and fencing on the other side of
line (a different subdivision entirely).
Removal of piping at the lower end will make boat trailer maneuvering difficult.... and likely that trailers tires would be
into the ditch... possibly creating an problem keeping a vegetated ditch stable.
In chance of some sort of compromise where they could remove portions of the existing pipe .... and leave portions at
both the upper and lower ends?
From: Lewis,Linda [mailto:linda.lewis0ncdenr.c1
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:16 PM
To: Newsom, Dave
Subject: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
Dave:
The application received on July 21, 2014, is missing a couple of things:
1. Sorry about the delay in reviewing. By the time the preliminary review was done, the application was processed
and assigned to me, almost 30 days had already elapsed.
2. The original receiving stream and density limit is based on being with %: mile of and draining to the SA waters of
the Intracoastal Waterway. There is no need to introduce the separate Foster Creek drainage area on the
application becausz it gets you nothing extra.

3. The first DA column on the application appears to be specific to the Boat ramp lot. It lists 1831 sf for parking and
528 sf for Other, with no future BUA. The last total overall DA column has 1358 sf for parking, 329 sf for Other
and 672 sf for future. It all adds up the same, but it's being distributed different. There either is or isnt' future
BUA. If the Boat ramp lot does not have future BUA, then you should put the same numbers for parking and
Other in that column as you've put in the overall columm and vice versa if there is future BUA on the boat ramp
lot.
4. The boat ramp lot has no contour information. Previously approved plans which contain contour information
will be retained and used for topographic information only as part of this modification. Alternatively, you may
trace the contour information onto the proposed plan.
5. The proposed plan shows too much piping for low density. Please remove this piping all the way back to the
public right-of-way and grade a swale to replace it, as was previously approved.
Please provide the requested information by October 15, 2014.
Linda Lewis
Environmental Engineer III
Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
Wilmington Regional Office
127 Cardinal Drive Ext.
Wilmington, NC 28405
Main Office — 910-796-7215
Direct Line — 910-796-7343
E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to
third parties.

Lewis,Linda
From: David Newsom <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 9:47 AM
To: Lewis,Linda
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
I will make them aware of that option.
Thank you.
From: Lewis,Linda [mailto:Iinda.lewis(@ncdenr.ci
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 9:46 AM
To: David Newsom
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
Understood about the last comment. I had requested that they remove all the piping before, but only a small section
was removed. I know it costs money - if the HOA will agree to a new permit condition that allows them a period of time
(1 year, 2 years?) to gather up the financial resources and then to accomplish the removal of that piping and the
restoration of the swale, I'm willing to do that.
Linda
From: David Newsom [mailto:crystalooastena(&bizec.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 9:36 AM
To: Lewis,Linda
Subject: RE: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
With regard to "delay in reviewing ........ no apology necessary...... With my recent workload, no way I could have
responded to your additional comments in a timely fashion.
My only real issue with your below comments is the last one ...... and I really cannot respond until I talk to the HOA
President.
I will try and track those guys down next week ..... and get some direction from them.
From: Lewis,Linda [mailto:Iincia.lewisOncdenr.govl
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:16 PM
To: Newsom, Dave
Subject: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
Dave:
The application received on July 21, 2014, is missing a couple of things:
Sorry about the delay in reviewing. By the time the preliminary review was done, the application was processed
and assigned to me, almost 30 days had already elapsed.

2. The original receiving stream and density limit is based on being with YSmile of and draining to the SA waters of
the Intracoastal Waterway. There is no need to introduce the separate Foster Creek drainage area on the
application because it gets you nothing extra.
3. The first DA column on the application appears to be specific to the Boat ramp lot. it lists 1831 sf for parking and
528 sf for Other, with no future BUA. The last total overall DA column has 1358 sf for parking, 329 sf for Other
and 672 sf for future. It all adds up the same, but it's beine distributed different. There either is or isnt' future
BUA. If the Boat ramp lot does not have future BUA. then you should nut the same numbers for parking and
Other in that column as you've put in the overall columm and vice versa if there is future BUA on the boat ramp
lot.
4. The boat ramp lot has no contour information. Previously approved plans which contain contour information
will be retained and used for topographic information only as part of this modification. Alternatively, you may
trace the contour information onto the proposed plan.
5. The proposed plan shows too much piping for low density. Please remove this piping all the way back to the
public right-of-way and grade a swale to replace it, as was previously approved.
Please provide the requested information by October 15, 2014.
Linda Lewis
Environmental Engineer III
Division of Energy, Mineral and Land Resources
Wilmington Regional Office
127 Cardinal Drive Ext.
Wilmington, NC 28405
Main Office — 910-796-7215
Direct Line — 910-796-7343
E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the !North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to
third parties.

Casmer, Jo
From: Casmer, Jo
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 2:14 PM
To: Newsom, David
Subject: Hurst Harbor SW8 920516
The Wilmington Regional Office of the Division of Energy, Mineral, and land resources (Stormwater Section) received the Stormwater Posit Plan
Revision Hpplicatin and $505.00 he on jnly 21, 2014. Your project will be assigned to a staff member and you will be notified if additional
information is needed.
jo Calmer
Administrative Assistant for DEMLR1Stormwater Section
NC Department of Environment & Natural Resources
Division of Environmental Assistance & Customer Service
127 Cardinal Drive Extension
Wilmington, NC 28405
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Email mnespondence to and from this address may be subled to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disdomd to Mid
parties

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To: Georgette Scott From: Jeanie for David Newsom
NCDENR — Stormwater Section
127 Cardinal Drive Ext.
Wilmington, NC 28405
RM Hurst Harbor Subdivision Date: July 16, 2014
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Attached:
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Two (2) copies "Hurst Harbor Subdivision
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North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources
Division of Energy, Mineral, and Land Resources
Tracy E. Davis, PE, CPM Pat McCrory, Governor
Director John E. Skvarla, III, Secretary
December 16, 2013
Hurst Harbor Association
John Worrell, President
PO Box 516
Swainsboro, NC 28584
Subject: Letter of October 31, 2013
Hurst Harbor Subdivision
Stormwater Project No. SW8 920516
Onslow County
Dear Mr. Worrell:
Thank you for your response letter, received on November 5, 2013. 1 just wanted to clarify the
built -upon area and the piping issue and assure the Association that the Division understands
that funds are short, and is willing to allow you sufficient time to accrue the necessary funds to
get a new layout and grading plan of the Homeowners Lot drawn up. Your request to provide
these new plans by July 31, 2014, is herewith approved.
The Division is requesting the new plans to provide verification that the improvements done over
the years have not exceeded the maximum allowed BUA of 6,900 square feet. The revised plan
should show the extent of the built -upon area on the ground, and should depict the buffer. While
your written comment that the measured BUA is 4,821 sf is most helpful and appreciated, a
revised plan showing the extent of the BUA will still be needed in order to judge compliance.
The second issue that the Division is seeking verification of is piping. The revised plans should
reflect that no piping has been installed and that there are no direct discharges to SA waters.
Overland sheet flow through the 30' buffer is acceptable and is not considered a direct
discharge.
In addition, the Association, as permittee, must review the construction plans for all new homes
and modifications or improvements to existing homes in the subdivision, to make sure that they
comply with the 6,900 sf permitted built -upon area limit and with the prohibition against piping
and direct discharges to SA waters. Please keep the records of those approvals to protect the
Association.
If you have any questions regarding the permit requirements please do not hesitate to contact
me at [phone] or email me at Iinda.lewis0mcdenr.cov
Sincerely,
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Linda Lewis
Environmental Engineer III
GDS/arl: S:1WQS1Stormwater\Permits & Projects11992\920516 LD1201312 letter 920516
cc: Onslow County Building Inspections
Barry Guthrie, DCM-Morehead City
Wilmington Regional Office
Wilmington Regional Office
127 Cardinal Drive Extension, Wilmington, North Carolina 28406 Phone: [phone] / Fax: [phone]

HURST HARBOR ASSOCIATION
PO Box 516; Swansboro, NC 28584
October 31, 2013
'1'0: Ms. Georgette D. Scott
Div. of Energy, Mineral & Land Resources
127 Cardinal Drive Extension
Wilmington, NC 28405
RE: Your Letter of October 16, 2013
Dear Ms. Scott,
Please accept this as the requested response to your subject letter on behalf of the Board of Directors of
Hurst Harbor Association.
As we understand your request, we are to respond to issues raised by Ms. Linda Lewis in her March 15,
2013 letter concerning our boat ramp project. The second paragraph of that letter details those issues as
follows: "Any changes to the built -upon area for the Homeowners Lot will require a review and
approval of the new layout and grading plan in order to assure that the 6900 square foot ma i
has not been exceeded and that no piping has been installed resulting in direct discharge to SA
waters."
Regarding the first issue (built -upon area), the project made few consequential changes to the built -upon
area of the Homeowners Lot which is, according to our measurements, 4821 sq. ft.
Regarding the second issue (direct piping to SA waters), we will closely inspect the drainage system on
the Homeowners Lot and correct deficiencies found, if any. We only ask that adequate time be allowed
as there are budgetary considerations. We propose to have any required work completed by July 31,
2014.
As we don't have appropriate addresses for some on your distribution list, we assume you will copy
others on our response as you see fit.
Thank you for your time and your work to keep NC waxers clean.
S" ely,
John Worrell
President, HHA Board
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