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PERMIT TO DREDGE OR FILL
State of North Carolina
Department of Conservation and Development
Ottis M. Crime______ -
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Chocowinit worth Carolina
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County - project location State
This permit authorizes you to dredge and/or fill at Rodman Creek (Off Pamlico Riverl
as requested in your permit application dated March 16, 197-4, subject to the conditions in the block
below.
See attached sheet for conditions.
THIS PERMIT IS VOID IF THE ABOVE CONDITIONS ARE NOT PRECISELY FOLLOWED
Notification of project completion must be given this office.
This permit must be displayed with a copy of the application and the,project map in the cab or
pilot -house of the vehicle working on the project, whichever is applicable, or be easily accessible on
site to Department of Conservation and Development personnel.
This permit is terminated on December 31, 1974
Any additional work or maintenance work on' the project subsequent to the termination of this
permit requires a new permit.
The permit, (as approved with conditions), may be objected to by the applicant or by interested
State agencies within twenty days of the date of issuance by giving written notice to the Depariment
of Conservation and Development.
The applicant is advised of the requirement under G. S. 146-6.1 that power -operated earth -
moving equipment operating or to be operated in or on publicly owned tidelands, publicly owned
beaches, publicly owned marshlands, or navigable waters within the State must be registered by
the owner of the equipment with the Department of Water and Air Resources.
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Thomas L. Linton, Commissioner
Augustly, 1973 Division of Commercial & Sports Fisheries
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Ottis M. Crisp Permit No. 135-73
August 15, 1973 Page 2 of 2
CONDITIONS
That Rodman Creek not be totally dredged as proposed and that dredging in f`"
Rodman Creek be limited to a single access channel to Pamlico River not to exceed
80' in width.
That deeping (other than the channel) be accomplished only in the immediate
area adjacent to the docks and adequate to facilitate boat maneuvering.
That run-off waters from the diked spillway be contained within a pipeline
trough or similar device to the MLW line in order that gully erosion between the
disposal area and adjacent estuarine waters be prevented.
That all dredge spoil be placed upon highgound and that there be no further
destruction of the remaining hardwood bottom land by spoil deposition.
That no septic tanks be placed in filled areas.
That all spoil be adequately contianed to prevent its entry to adjacent waters.
That either a "Locked Head Policy be enforced at the dock or that a waste
collection system be incorporated to serve the dock area.
That reasonable measures be taken to prevent erosion of spoil and disturbed
areas.
Thomas L. Linton, Commissioner
Division of Commercial & Sports Fisheries

August
Co� roSOIL ep
Mr. Ottis M. Crisp
Chocowinity
North Carolina
near Mr. Crisp:
As a result of the additional information supplied to the Health
Department by Mr. Lewis, that Department has withdrawn its objection to your
proposed project at Rodmans Creek. For this reason a conditioned state per-
mit is forwarded herewith.
2f there are any questions on this matter, please do not hesitate tc
contact me.
Very sincerely,
John R. Parker, Jr.
Administrative Assistant
Division of Commercial and Sports
Fisheries
JRP:ls
Cc: Mr. W. R. Roberson, Jr.
Mr. Blake Lewis
Col. A. C. Costanzo

STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL AND ECONOMIC RESOURCES
Box 27667 Raleigh 27611
TAMES E. HARRINGTON
SECRETARY
TELEPHONE
AREA CODE 919-829-498/
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Mr. Ottis M. Crisp
Chocowinity
North Carolina
Dear Mr. Crisp:
ly 9, 1973
The application request that you submitted for a state permit
to excavate and/or fill on Rodman's. Creek has been carefully reviewed.
Processing is now complete and we find that the coordinated state view-
point does include and objection. It is my form you that
receipt of this objection necessitates pe t denial this time.
The objection to your project and the agency submitting same
follows:
State Board of Health - objected to permit issuance due to the
possibility of increased water pollution in the area. The Board also
recommended (for future plans) that the marina provide adequate facilities
for sanitary collection and disposal of sewage from water craft having
retention tanks.
The above comments are in accordance with G.S. 113-229(e)(3),
that there will be significant adverse effect on public health
safety and welfare".
When an application for a permit is denied, the applicant
is entitled to a hearing as provided for in G.S. 113-229. He is also
entitled to representation by counsel. This office must be notified within
twenty (20) days from this date if a hearing is desired.
Sincerely,
Ie 1�c f� 1:7y
Thomas L. Linton, Commissioner -
Division of Commercial & Sports
Fisheries
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S i1,- . 0i.. NORTH CAROLINA
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL AND ECONOMIC RESOURCES
Box 27697
FAMES E. HARRINGTON
SECRETARY
TELEPHONE
AREA CODE 919-929-4994
Mr. Blake C. Lewis
P. 0. Box 801
Washington, N. C. 27889
Dear Mr. Lewis:
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Raleigh 27611
Div. Commercial
P. 0. Box 769
Morehead City,
TAMES E. HOLSHOUSER, JR,
GOVERNOR
and Sports Fisheries
N. C. 28557
June 21, 1973
6, 1973, letter expressing concern as to the two gro-
in Chocowinity,.N. C. As I told you on the phone, we
king with us in supplying the necessary revisions in
You state that there has been no reference to Project No. 1 - the project in Rod-
man's Creek. The reason there has been no reference to this project in our corres-
pondence is that this project does require a State and Federal permit. It is now
in the process of being circulated to State agencies for comment. I called our
Raleigh office just a short time ago, and they tell me that one more state agency
has to comment before a final decision can be made. This comment should be in
the Raleigh office very shortly.
I appreciate your concern that Mr. Crisp is prepared to work on the Rodman's Creek
Marina - Application No. 1 - but he must wait until he obtains the necessary State
and Federal permits before he commences.
As concerns Application No. 2 - work in Chocowinity Bay - as I have previously
stated, no State permit is required. However, a Corps of Engineers permit is re-
quired and any work prior to your obtaining this permit would be in violation of
the Federal law.
I hope this answers the questions contained in your June 16 letter; if not, please
do not hesitate to call me at Tel. [phone].
Cordially yours,
C. D. Ringer, Biologist
Estuarine Studies Section
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BLAKE C. LEWIS
.Wegistered .Surveyor
P. O. Box 801
Washington, N. C. 27889
June, 16 1973
Mr. Robert Pittman, Biologist
Estuarine Studies Section
Dept. of Natural & Economic Resources
Div. Comm. & Sports Fisheries
P.O. Box 769
Morehead City, N.C.
Dear Sir:
On March 16 T973 on behalf of Mr. Ottis Crisp R.F.D. Chocowinity, N.C.
and at his request I made two applications No.s. T&2 for permission
to dredge and fill on Rodmans Creek (T) & (2) on Chocowinity Bay.
On April, 4 I recieved a letter from you asking for addittional
information on both projects. This was complied with and mailed to you
on April IT, with more information on what Mr. Crisp was planning to do
with the sandpits that were mined with and under permits issued by the
State. In each of the above letters to you I stated that Mr. Crisp was anxious
to get started on the projects especially the Rodmans creek Marina as the
Sailboat Slips ware much in demand and that he wanted to get started on this
project first.
On May 3 1973-I recieved a letter from Mr. C. Douglas RingEr Biologist
Estuarine Studies Section, stating that Mr. Crisp did not need a permit
to dredge in Chocowinity Bay as it had been declaired 11 Inland Waters n
and if Mr. Crisp would declair that no marsh would be destroyed he could
begin his work, and that the application would be declared null and void.
this was complied with on May 6. There has been no reference to project
No. T nor no reply as to any needed information on this project. from you
or Mr. Ringler. This is most confusing, after revising the plats for you
to say that they were not needed after all.
Mr. Crisp called me today and wanted to Know if I had heard anything from
you since May 6 and that he was ready to start to work
C�re�ek�M_a,T1na. I will appreciate a reply s matter by return mail.
you or any of your staff would like for me or Mr. Crisp to meet you
at the project we will be happy to do so. I am
Yours truly

STATE. OF NORTH CAROLINA
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL AND ECONOMIC RESOURCES
NU, 27687
I AMES E. HARRINGI ON
SECRETARY
LELE.PHL1NF
AREA CODE 919 8:9-4984
Mr. James T. Brown, Chief
Estuarine Studies Section
Division of Commercial and Sports Fisheries
Box 769
Morehead City, North Carolina
Dear Mr. Brown:
The at ed copy- an application by
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for a state permit to perform excavation and/or fill work in coastal North Carolina
is being circulated to State and Federal agencies having jurisdiction over the
subject matter which might be affected by the project.
Please indicate below your viewpoint on the proposed work and return to the
Division of Commercial and Sports Fisheries not later than
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NMI Recommend issuance with condiClolns Sincerely,
as noted in Ringer's report. 09_4
Thomas L. Linton
Revised plats attached. Commissioner
REPLY: ❑ This Department has no objection to the proposed work.
Iv l Comments corLcerning this application are attached.
Signed
Date flay 11, 1973
Form D&F - F1
Rev. 3/73

STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL AND ECONOMIC RESOURCES
Box 27687
TAMES E. "ARRINGTON
SECRETARY
TELEPHONE
AREA CODE 019-009-4994
MEMORANDUM TO -
From
Subject
Raleigh 27811
TAMES E. HOLSHOUSER, JR.
GOVERNOR
Div. Commercial and Sports Fisheries
P, 0. Box 769
Morehead City, N. C. 28557
May 11, 1973
Jim Brown
Doug Ringer
App. for permit - 0. M. Crisp (Project 1) dated 3-16-73
Location - Beaufort County near Washington in Rodman's Creek, a tributary of Pamlico
River 1 112 mile south of the RR bridge across the river. '
Investigative process - 3-23-73 application received in Morehead; 4-4-73 new plats
requested; 4-9-73 plats received; 4-10-73 revised plats requested again; 4-12-73
revised plats received; 4-18 on -site investigation with applicant; 4-19 telephone
conversation with applicant's surveyor re need for plat revisions reflecting on -site
discussions; 4-24 complete plats received.
Environmental setting - The Pamlico River at the project site provides habitat for
freshwater fish species including largemouth bass, yellow perch, pckerel and pump-
kinseed. The river edges and its tributaries are utilized as spawning habitat by
anadromous herring species during the spring of the year. Depths in the river average
5-9' with an average of some 3-4' in Rodmans Creek. The creek bottom is loose mud with
a lower layer of sandy mud. No marsh vegetation exists along the shoreline of the im-
mediate project area; however, directly across the creek is a large homogenous stand
of giant cordgrass (Spartina cynosuroides). 350' inland of the creek exists a trian-
gular shaped boat basin 500' long and 150' wide at its base. A 40' wide channel con-
nects the basin with Rodmans Creek on the basin's east end while a 50' wide channel
extends 220' from its western end toward the creek. The eastern channel stops 60'
from the creek boundary. Further east of the project site is a 600' x 300' wooded
swamp that narrows and extends up Rodmans Creek. The existing basin is tied into an
extensive drainage canal system in the many acres of adjoining farm land. This site
is located near Whichards Beach, a highly developed recreation -resort area bordering
Pamlico River and Chocowinity Bay.
Project description - Mr. Crisp proposes to dredge the mouth of Rodmans Creek to pro-
vide navigable access, construct docks and finger piers from the highland into the
creek, erect a 350' long bulkhead along Rodmans Creek and enlarge two existing canals
from an existing basin to the creek. A 600' x 500' area of Rodmans Creek is to be
deepened from 3-4' to 6' below MLW. Spoil material from this dredge operation is to
be pumped behind earth dikes constructed in the wooded swamp area west of the exist-
ing basin. The existing 40' wide easterrr-channel is to be widened to 80' and the
western channel is to be widened also to 80' and extended 50' to the creek. Spoil ma-
terial from these dragline operations will be placed between the canals on existing
highland. The applicant's Rodmans Creek shoreline has experienced some erosion and
a bulkhead is proposed to regain some of this land and to prevent future loss. The

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350' shoreline is now shaped like a broad "W". Bulkhead construction is to be ap-
proximately "point to point" with the structure extending no more than 10' from the
shoreline anywhere along the shore.
Environmental impact - If completed as presented, the project would alter some 6.5
acres of Rodmans Creek by deepening it from 3-4' to 6' below MLW. The acres of
wooded swamp would be altered by receiving spoil from the dredge operation, The
amount of dredging seems to be excessive to provide navigable access to the project
area. I have no objection to the issuance of a permit for this work if the permit
contains the following conditions:
That dredging in Rodmans Creek be limited to:
1. a single access channel to Pamlico River;
2. deepening only the immediate docking area adjacent to the highland;
3. that runoff.waters from the dike spillway be contained within a pipeline
trough or similar device to the MLW line in order that golly erosion between
the disposal area and adjacent estuarine waters be prevented.
Doug Ringer

,! (Rev. 4/72)
APPLICATION FOR PERMIT TO DREDGE OR FILL
State of North Carolina
Department of Conservation and Development
Please type or print and fill in all blanks. If the information requested is
not applicable, so indicate by placing N/A in the blank. .
I. Applicant Information: For Application No. 1
A. Name of applicant Cris] Ottis td
Last First Middle
B. Address of applicant Chocowinity,N.C.R.F.D.
Street, P. 0. Box or Route -
Chocowinity, rv.C. 946 5030
City or Town .State Zip Code Phone
11. Location of Intended Operation:
A. Name of county Beaufort
B. I. Name of city
2• Is proposed work within city limits? Yes No X
C. Name of nearest creek, river, sound, bay, or state-owned lake.
Rodmans Creek, now non navigab�ept for rowboats.
III. Description of Operation:
A. Purpose of excavation or fill +
1• Access channel length 700 P't, width 80 depth 6
2. Boat basin lcagth width depth
3. Fill area length 300 width 4Q0 depth A__ft. +-
¢. Other; IE Vh 300 width 400 - depth _.
(Note: If channel, give reason for needs of dimensions listed above.)
i}epth must be Eft in order to accomodate sail boats
B. I. if bulkhead, give dimensions
400 ft. ±
2• Type of bulkhead construction (material) Creosote or salt treated if available
C. Excavated material ; 5000 ± cu yds.
1. Cubic yards Dragline 7000 cu vds. dredged
2. Type of material 20316' mud 800% sand clay
IV. Land Type, Spoil, and Construction Equipment: X
A. Does the area to be excavated include any marshland? Yes No
B. Does the disposal area contain any marshland? Yes No X
C. Location of disposal area Dragline material will be placed between two canals,
spread and a Marina will be constructed on the spoil and will be Erassed.
rlsred en m'- eriaS wi e Aump d svr caned b a c t
D. How call spoil be entrapped or encased? 9ul*Re9d RH Sie conS�ARI� &n Rodmans
creek. Dredged spoil will be pumped into swamp behind fallen logs that
will prevent rums
E. Type of equipment to be used Dragline, and a pipeline dredge.
(Note: Such equipment must be registered with the Department of Water & Air Resources)
F. Will marshland be crossed in transporting equipment to project site? (If yes, explain) No marsh involved.
V. Intended Use of Project, Describe:
A. 1• Private
2• Commercial riar; na and sail boat sly ps
3. Housing development or Industrial

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C. LEWISRECF"IVEJ
.�egisyis tBLAlse reel Surveeyor
P. O. Box 801 ��; ;j Ruts
Washington, N. C. 27889
Dim. � Cogercial & I
April, 23 1973 SpoLtru Fisheries
1E2 B Seatlo
Dept. of Natural
Div. Comm. and Sportsorts Fish Fisheries -
P.O. Box 769
Moreheda City, N.C.
In re: Applicatio s NO'S 1 & 2.---�—
Gentlemen:
Enclosed please fihised sketch of sheet one and sheet 5 to
apply to application No. 1 also the revised sheetof application no. 2
as per my telephone conversation with Mr. Ringler.
Earthern dikes with pipes for spillways will be used on the Rodman
Creek and Chocowinity Bay projects to prevent washback instead of log
dikes as first proposed.
It was my understanding with Mr. Crisp in our first plan that he would
dredge an 80 ft. channel in Rodmans Creek and mark it with bouys. this
would be less expensive, however it will be much safer to both small and
larger boats to dredge the creek.
I hope that this completes the needed information you requested, however
if I can be of furthur help dont hesitate to call or write. I am
Yours truly
bcl/s

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B KE C. LEWIS
U Registered .Sanueyon
P. O. Box 801
Washington, N. C. 27889
April, 11 1973
Mr. Robert Pittman, Biologist
Div. Comm. & Sports Fisheries
P.O. Box 769
N
Morehead City, .C.
In re: Applications &2 Ottis M. Crisp
Dear Mr. Pittman:
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I am returning the revised plats which I hope you will find satisfactory.
I made the corrections on the returned plats and added another sheet, see
"Sheet 5 0£ 5 V The Corps of Engineers have the original tracings and
have not yet returned them.
You will note that on the areas marked spoil they are double cross hatched,
but I am sure you will understand what is meant to be shown as spoil and
what is to be excavated, and the MHW. and MLW. lines have been added.
The sandpits have already been mined and there will be no excavating on
or rather in them. The pit on the south side of the Whichards Beach
road will be, and is in the process of being squared off with the wide
end of the pit. This sand is being sold for fill or masonry sand and will
be bulkheaded after he is through.
As I have stated before in my first letter with the applications, these
pits were dug by permit from the State in the most non productive part of
his field. The soil is a very light sandy type, the type that blows away
in light winds. It also requires a great amount of irrigation to sustain
any kind of crop. what he is planning to do,with your Departments help
will be the best way to utilize the property. At this time there are
other pr&jects such as this being planned on Pamlico River,some of which
I am sure you are familiar with.
Thanking you for your patience, I am
Yours trulX '
�j P
Blake C. Lewis,
Reg. Surveyor

STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL AND ECONOMIC RESOURCES
Sax 27667
I AMES E. HA R RI NGTON
SECRETARY
TELEPHONE
AREA CODE 919-929-4994
Raleigh 27611
TAMES E. HOLSHOUSER, JR.
GOVERNOR
Div. Commercial and Sports Fisheries
P. 0. Box 769
Morehead City, N. C. 28557
April 10, 1973
Mr. Blake C. Lewis
P. 0. Box 801
Washington, N. C. 27889
In re: ApplicatiOttis M Crisp j
Application No. 2 - Ottis M. risp
Dear Mr. Lewis:
We have received the "corrected plats" for the Ottis M. Crisp appli-
cations. We find, however, that the plats are still not adequate
for our needs in making an investigation and in processing.
Please refer to the enclosed "example" plat taken from our Instruc-
tion Booklet. As we pointed out in our letter to Mr. Crisp of April
4, we specifically need the following:
1. Crosshatch all excavation areas (channel, basins, etc.)
2. Crosshatch in the opposite direction all spoil areas.
3. Indicate the present mean high water mark on both plats.
Upon receipt of these corrected plats we will continue the process-
ing of these applications.
Cordially yours,
Robert Pittman, Biologist
Estuarine Studies Section
RP/rt

BLAKE C. LEWIS
Registered .Sanoeyon 00000�
P. 0. Box 801 {�
Washington, N. C. 27889
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April, 7 1973 PQ� Selo"e'eo
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Mr. Robert Pittman 9'ra54o9 S r , r
Div. Commercial & Sports Fisheries
P.O. Box 769
Morehead City, N.C.
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Dear Mr. Pittman: r
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In re: Ottis M. Crisp Applications 11&2 ram'
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Enclosed please find the addittidal information required to complete
Mr. Crisps application. I forwarded this same information to the Corps
of Engineers in Wilmington last week. For your nformation the number
they have assigned to this application is SAWK&r07-23-184.Rodmans Cr.
and number SAWKS73-07-23-195 for the Chocwinity Bay application.
The only person or persons having riparian rights to the project is
Mr. Crisps sister in law Mrs. W.B. Crisp whose property adjains Mr.
Ottis Crisp on Rodman's Creek. I sent to Raleigh along with the papers
her signed consent on the form sent for the purpose.
Mr. Crisp asked that I handle this matter for him and I will appreciate
your directing the correspondence concerning the applications to me.
I requested this in the first letter that was mailed to Raleigh with the
drawings.
Thanking you for your prompt attention, I am
Yours truly,
-W, e

4 AT4--.oF'NORT1�Ct1ROLINA
DEPATMENT OF NATURAL AND ECONOMIC RESOURCES
Ro% 2-1M,
1AMI,♦ t_ 11ARRINOI0N
SECRETARY
LELUPHONI
AREA CODE 914 924 4984
Mr. Blake C. Lewis
Post Office Box 801
Washington, North Carolina 27889
Dear Mr. Lewis:
April 6, 1973
Raleigh 276 11
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It is the policy of this office to acknowledge the receipt of
applications via letter. Mr. Crisp should have received such notification
several weeks ago. Also, a request for additional information has been
already directed to him from the Morehead City office.
In setting up the two files on his project on Rodman's Creek,
I failed to note that all correspondence should be forwarded to you.
It is hereby acknowledged that you made this request in your letter of
March 17, 1973.
By copy of this letter I am asking that the personnel in the
Morehead City office correspond with you in the future. I also call
your attention to the attached letter copies in which Mr. Crisp was ask
to forward the additional information to Morehead City.
If there are any questions on this matter, please do not
hesitate to contact me.
Sincerely,
� �JrJohn R. Park,.
Administrative Assistant
Division of Commercial & Sports
Fisheries
JRP:ls
Enclosure
cc: Mr. Jim Brown
Mr. W. R. Roberson, Jr.
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STATE: OF. NORTH CAROLINA
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DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL AND
ECONOMIC
RESOURCESs
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Box 27687
Raleigh 27611
TAMES E. HARRINGTON
TAMES E. HOLSHOUSER, JR.
GOVERNOR
SECRETARY
TELEPHONE
Div.
Commercial and Sports
Fisheries
AREA CODE EIE-E2E-4EE4
P . 0.
Box 769
Morehead
City, N. C. 28557
April 4, 1973
MR. Cwinityp'.
M. Cris,'
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Dear Mr. Crisp:
We have received your application No. (project dated March
16, 1973, requesting a permit to dre e a 1 on Rodman's Creek.
We find, however,that your plat is not sufficient for our needs.
Will you please make the following corrections in your "top "view"
plat:
1. Indicate the present mean high water line.
2. Crosshatch all areas to be excavated.
3. Crosshatch (opposite direction from excavation) all spoil areas.
Please send revised plat to my attention at the above Morehead City
address. Your application will be held in abeyance until its re-
ceipt. If I may be of assistance to you, do not hesitate to call
upon me.
Cordially yours,
Robert Pittman, Biologist
Estuarine Studies Section
RP/rt
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DIVISION OF
North Carolina Department of MART F
EUNARDG. MCCOY
Natural & Economic Resources DIRECTOR
BOX 27687. RPA UGH 2 c:1
JAMES E. HCLSHOUSER, JR., GOVERNOR JAMES E. H.ARRINGTON, SECRETARY TELEPHOKE 919829-957
RECEIVED
DEC (;-1976
December 3, 1976 N- C. DEpT, NER
n5966
MARINE FISHERIES
Mr. OttRoute 2Chocowiina 27817
Dear Mr. Crisp:
In response to your request for a renewal of pe it #135-7 ,/
I find it necessary to ask that you update your applica
some two years old.
Specifically, I note that the important top view of your
Rodmans Creek project is not provided with a scale. This view,
as is, does not provide adequate detail. Because of the involve-
ment, a scale of 1"-100" or less, should be provided. Other items
should be in keeping with the enclosed``A�:ample plat. Also, please
complete the enclosed new application forms, including any changes
that may have been considered over the past two years.
Should there be any questions on this matter, do not hesitate
to contact me.
Very Sincerely,
John R. Parker, Jr_,.) ,
Permit Coordinator
JRPjr:sh
CC. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Preston Pate
Division Office, Morehead City
Enclosure

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DIVISION
North Carolina Department of
OF
MARINE FISHERIES
Natural & Economic Resources
EDWARD G. MCCOY
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JAMES E. HOLSHOUSER. JR., GOVERNOR • JAMES E. HARRINGTON, SECRETARY
BOX 769, MOREHEAD CITYE 28557
TELEPHONE 91972F7021
September 28, 1976
Mr. Milton S. Brown
P. 0. Box 578
Washington, North Carolina 27889
Dear Mr. Brown:
Attached is a copy of the State dredge and fill permit No. 135-73 which was
issued to 0. M. Crisp to do some dredging at the mouth of Rodman Creek, Pamlico
River. It is my understanding that you are acting as agent for Mr. Crisp in
seeking renewal of this same permit.
The procedure should be to submit the request in writing to our Raleigh office.
You should include a copy of the approved work plat and note any changes which
may be proposed. I would suggest that a new plat be drawn showing in more de-
tail exactly what is proposed for that area. The only changes I might suggest
are that the proposed bulkhead should not exceed 5' from the mean high water
mark, and that the proposed channel width be reduced from 80' to 60'.
Your request for renewal should be addressed to Mr. John Parker, Division of
Marine Fisheries, PO Box 27687, Raleigh, N. C. 27611. Your request will be cir-
culated for review among the various state agencies involved with our program.
However, the process does not require as much time as a new application. A
response should be received within three weeks of your request.
If I may be of further assistance, or you have any questions, do not hesitate to
contact me at our Morehead City office.
PPP/rt
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CC John Parker
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FIRST INDUSTRY
Cordially yours, n
QA"M 6'' a -CC
1JU1�,
Preston P. Pate, Jr.
Environmental Consultant

BLAKE C. LEWIS
.Registered S"oueyor
P. O. Box 801
Washington, N. C. 27889
:November, 9 1973
Plr. C. Douglas Ringer, Biologist
Estuarine Studies Section
Dept, of natural and Economie Resources
Div.Cor..m. and Sports Fisheries
Morehead City, N.C. 28557
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Hear ,•' Ringer: in. re. Permit No. 135-73
y1r. Crisp handed me your letter of nov.6 and asked me to':,co'cnply--�
one
n . . 30 as requested by your Dept. 1 mailed the reviseans
to the Corps of Engineers in Wilmington along with the letter also
attached. ;he swamp area will not be filled, a dike will be erected
along the edge of the existing spoil and along the canal to prevent
washback. The swamp area in question is only about one half acre
in size and there is ample room south of the swamp area and the cult
ivated field to hold the spoil. Some spoil will be placed on the existing
spoil between the two canals.
As stated in the letter to the Corps the septic tanks will be moved
across the basin to the edge of the cultivated field.
At this time 1 have not heard from the Corps, but Ore are in hopes of
a reply 'soon-.
Thanking you for your cooperation Z am
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Yours truly e ly
A; znt for Q. f. Crisp

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Registered Savueyoo.
P. O. Box 801
Washington, N. C. 27889
.ctobsr, .71' 7 73
Permits u Statistics branch
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'.Yilmin:,ton, N.C.
Lear sir:
euc?.os--a are tics revised mans for
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on r:r. Criso. thare are some obstructions on the bottom of Radman3 creek
but thesis can be ro.:oved by snagriag. and he is fcllo-led to drod„e in X;4A i
tab irn ediate ar3a au.iccent to tre docks.
he rllsa for iae septic i;>>s s h vc been et�a ed, and will be Placed
on Lae ed„e of tea field on sutural soil,t_2arn will be snjje fall to
as,3ure ar iarairA,uecaus3 o the ode;ittio,2-1 fill.
I can assure you t'hst �r. Crian wants to cooperate with the State
wid the wwt. and will do his best to see that the coaditioss are
ne.t if, the bro.ect.
i;.aai�iar..you for your cooperation it: the matter, I am
iourFs truly
kgeat for

S-rA'I'E OF [NORTH CAROLINA Y'c �
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DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL AND ECONOMIC RESOURCES
Box 2711H7 Raleigh 27611
TAMES E. HOLSHOUiER, I R.
I ASIES E. HARRi Groh GOVERNOR
SECRETARY Div. Commercial and Sports Fisheries
T8LEPHONE P. 0. Box 769
.AREA GOO: 919-9^-9-4964
Morehead City, N. C. 28557
November.6, 1973
Mr Ottis M. Crisp
Ch cowinity, N. C.
n,
In response to a recent telephone conversation with Mr. Ed Jones, enclosed are two
copies of your project map concerning Rodmans Creek. On these maps I have indicated
those areas which you may get your surveyor to draw onto the project maps to be sup-
plied to the Corps of Engineers. The addition of these revisions will, I feel, result
in a clearer understanding by the Corps.
As concerns the proposed spoil area in the wooded area northwest of the small boat har-
bor, I find that the permit contains a condition suggested by the Wildlife Resources
Commission that no spoil be placed in the subject wooded area. Therefore, I have in --
di cated on the map a high land area to be used for spoil disposal, When I spdce to
you on the site I did not remember that this condition was an integral part of the
permit to dredge and fill. In order to comply with the conditions of Permit No. 135-73,
your spoil disposal site will have to be on high land and out of the wooded area.
If.1 may be of any further assistance to you or your surveyor, Mr. Lewis, please do
not hesitate to call.
Cordially yours,
,�n{
C. Douglas Ringer, Biologist
Estuarine Studies Section
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