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violation of these terms may subject the permittee to a fine, r applicant's signature
imprisonment or civil action; and may cause the permit to be-
come null and void.
This permit must be on the project site and accessible to the
permit officer when the project is inspected for compliance.
The applicant certifies by signing this permit that 1) this pro-
ject is consistent with the local land use plan and all local
ordinances, and 2) a written statement has been obtained from
adjacent riparian landowners certifying that they have no
objections to the proposed work.
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C. William A. Cannon
1449 Live oak Drive JUL 19 1999
Bayboro, N.C. 28515
July 14, 1999
Mr. Ted Tyndall
N.C. Division of Coastal Management
Hestron Plaza II
151-B Highway 24
Morehead City, N.C. 28557
Re: Jones Island Hunt Club
Dear Mr. Tyndall:
We received a copy of Hiram Mayo's letter dated July 12, 1999
to you. My wife and I are in complete agreement with Mr. Mayo.
Jones Island Hunt Club has a reputation in the community of
"walking" on the local people. For example an elderly man
was drowned here when his small boat was swamped by the wakes
of passing boats. A large group of local citizens went before
the county commissioners requesting a "no wake zone" two
miles above and below the Hobucken bridge. Their agent stated
he represented the thirty three members of the Hunt Club in
opposing this resolution. Another example: they installed
another pipe under the driveway, which is used by six other
families, without proper notification or permits, including
one from your office. They notified my wife the evening before,
she stated she would have to be able to get out by 10:30 AM,
at which time they informed her they would be finished by that
time. However, they did not start until noon, forcing my wife
to be stranded for two hours, and also causing me to miss
a doctor's appointment as I could not get out of the driveway.
It was necessary for us to contact our attorney in order to
have the Club guarantee (for what it is worth) that we would
have two weeks notice the next time they work on the road.
At the junction of Gale Creek Road and Meekins Road there is
H piece of land that had been wetlands since we moved here
twelve years ago. Since they have owned it they have added
more fill dirt yearly with some washing into the creek.
In regard to the 54" mooring ball, in the community the story
is they plan to moor a 200' barge there so they can tie their
yachts there. If this is permitted, they should have it on the
east side of the intracoastal near their lodges, although we
oppose it either place as this is a residential area, not a
marina.

Questions:
1. Should we not be notified of a permit if they plan to
work on the driveway as it is adjacent to a creek on
both sides?
2. Should they not be required to remove the soil and restore
the wetlands at the junction of Meekins Road and Gale
Creek Road?
3. Should we not have been notified regarding this mooring
ball?
We intend to join Mr. Mayo in any way he may carry this
matter further.
Sincerely yours,
LJILO'^(� 0 � &"' C�'
C. William A. Cannon

MAYO POINT
469 Gale Creek Road
Bayboro, North Carolina 28515
July 12, 1999
Mr. Ted Tyndall, Supervisor
N. C. Division of Coastal Management
Hestron Plaza II
151-B Highway 24
Morehead City, North Carolina 28557
Dear Mr. Tyndall
The attached letter was received from the Jones Island Club on July 8, 1999 for their
proposal and requesting you issue a permit to them to construct and place a mooring ball
of 54 inches in diameter in the water one hundred yards from a point of land between Tar
and Whealton Creeks located on the Westward side of Gale Creek and bordering the
Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway.
We object to this project as presently proposed and provided for in General Statue 113-
229. The reasons for the objection are many. This proposed mooring ball of 54 inches in
diameter appears to be of a permanent nature and will be within approximately one
hundred yards of our property and within close proximity to the other five adjacent
riparian landowners, they being: Dr. Larry Adams, Thomas Flynn, C. William A. Cannon,
Dr. Charles Gleaton, and Dr. Richard Smith. We consider this proposed mooring ball of
54 inches in diameter with heavy chain and anchor to be objectionable in sight and would
be a_menace to navigation on the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway. It would pose a threat
to us and our family and friends when using our boats to leave our boathouse to enter
upon the public waters and returning to our property since this proposed mooring ball
would be in our line of water traffic. This permanent object would be a menace to the
lives of crabbers, commercial fisherman, duck hunters, oystermen and others who use the
waterway for making a living and getting to their work and homes especially at night and
those using the waterway going North and South and spending the nights in our area and
using it as a harbor.
The proposed mooring ball would be unsightly with boats, tugs, barges and other types of
watercraft moored there on a permanent basis. Our property and that of the other five
property owners is for residential use and not commercial. The Jones Island Club has
thirty-three members and their membership changes often. None of their members live in
this area nor in Pamlico County. We do not want a mooring ball permitted in this area and
do not want this practice to get started in our area.

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There is a lot of boat traffic on the Intracoastal Waterway constantly eroding our shore
line and we do not want to do anything to encourage more interference with the people
trying to make a living using the public water and while traveling to and from our homes.
In my opinion the Jones Island Club has not shown us the respect, cooperation, courtesy
and goodwill that we as neighbors rightly deserve. The Jones Island Club, through its
Manager, about fourteen years ago obtained permission from the U.S. Army Corps of
Engineers, at their Wilmington office, to divide a parcel of property that we owned at that
time should the Jones Island Club buy the property for building a house or houses. This
same request had been denied to us and I have a copy of the letter from the Corp of
Engineers addressed to the Manager of the Jones Island Club granting their request. The
Jones Island Club has constructed three lodges and other buildings on their property
across the waterway from us containing thrirty-three bedrooms and installed septic tanks
with conventional sewer lines. The Pamlico County Health Department issued to us four
septic tank permits to build individual houses on our property prior to those issued to the
Jones Island Club and we have a cancelled check as payment. About a year later the
Pamlico County Health Department revoked our septic tank permits because of our
property containing fill material placed there in 1919 and yet issued septic tank permits to
the Jones Island Club even through they have fill material on their property form 1929.
This action cost us and other landowners twenty-three thousand dollars to install a septic
tank field on one of our lots.
The Jones Island Club obtained a permit from your office to dredge and deposit fill from
the canals bordering the private road leading to our properties. This work was done by
the Jones Island Club about three years ago and I called you - Mr. Tyndall - by telephone
at your office in Morehead City, N. C., and complained about the work exceeding their
permit with the canals being dredged deeper than approved and caused the sides of the
private road to cave in at two different locations of about one hundred feet in length at
each place where they dredged fill material. You investigated and told me over the
telephone that would require the Jones Island Club to restore the damaged banks of the
road to their original condition. The Jones Island Club bought some lumber and posts
which were deposited beside the two caved in areas along the road, but were never used
nor has the road ever been restored and no one has tried to restore the private road to its
original condition. I informed you over the telephone at that time that your requirement to
restore the road would probably be overruled by the Raleigh office because of the
influence exerted by some members of the Jones Island Club. I assume this happened
since the work of restoring the road was never completed as you requested of the clubs
Manager. We wrote a letter to the president of the Jones Island Club requesting that the
road be restored to its original condition and received a letter denying our request.
The Jones Island Club installed a pipe across the private road from a canal beside the road
to their pond last year. This pipe was too short and severe erosion has resulted on each
end of the pipe threatening the use of the road by the property owners. Recent letters
have been received by one property owner from members of the Jones Island Club and
another property owner was visited by one of the members of the Jones Island Club

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We are requesting you visit our road site and render your opinion for its repair. So far
none of us know when the work will ever be started or completed.
This information is being submitted to you requesting you deny the permit being requested
by the Jones Island Club. If a permit should ever be issued for a mooring it should be
installed in the water adjacent to their club houses on the East side of Gale Creek so
electricity could be provided for a light to be installed on the mooring and allow the
Manager of the club to exercise proper supervision and control at all times over the use of
the mooring.
All of the other riparian landowners do not want the mooring permitted and wonder why
they were not notified by the Jones Island Club concerning the request for a mooring
permit.
Gale Creek is an estuary serving as a primary nursery area for shrimp, oysters, crabs, fish
and other aquatic life and is so designated by the state of North Carolina. This body of
water is fragile and should not be polluted or the bottom disturbed by large foreign objects
such as a mooring device. To commercialize this land and water is wrong and the State
and Federal agencies should not issue any more permits for its destruction. If one mooring
permit is granted then we probably could expect others to request permits for moorings in
Gale Creek. We do not want our neighborhood ruined by commercialization.
We are requesting a water quality asessment study be made and a written report submitted
for our study. If the permit is granted we will file for a hearing from an administrative law
judge.
Please telephone me at 252/745-5359 and write or visit with me concerning the proposed
mooring and condition of the private road.
Sincerely yours,
&ramJ. Mayo, Sr.
Copies - Adjacent Landowners
United States Coast Guard
Richard Dove
Barry Adams

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Should you have objections to this proposal, please send your written comments to the
N.C. Division of Coastal Management, P. Q. Box 769, Morehead City, NC, 28557. Written
comments must be received within ten (10) days of receipt of this notice.
Failure to respond in either method within ten (10) days will be interpreted as no
objection.
Sincerely, F-fZEv IlA na - L .:�- 2- 7 Y S 7 Y 7 7
I have no objection to the project as presently proposed and hereby waive that
right of objection as provided in General Statute 113-229.
I have objections to the project as presently proposed and have enclosed
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1447 Live Oak Drive
Bayboro, NC 28515
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July 13, 1999
Mr. 'Thomas P. Flynn
1447 Live Oak Drive
Bayboro, NC 28515
Mr. M. Ted Tyndall
DEHNR, Division of Coastal Management
Hestron Plaza 2
151-13 Highway 24
Morehead City, NC 28557 VIA FAX
Dear Ted,
1 heard from Hiram Mayo that you may be visiting this coming Thursday to examine the Jones Island Club's proposed
mooring location in the Gale Creek area_ Since I may miss you when you arrive, I want to make sure you have my
views on file as part of the review process. While my land does not directly border any of the Club's, l will sustain a
negative visual impact to my view if the current mooring site is approved so I therefore feel l have some right to
express my thoughts on the subject. If you like, you may regard this as a "friend of the court brief' so to speak. A few
facts need to be put forward to frame my remarks below.
Several weeks ago Greg Poole came by our house largely to apologize for some road work done by the Club a few
months back which effectively cut us off from the main road without, in our case, any prior notice. No big thing. He
also casually mentioned that the Club had secured a huge mooring ball left over from a Club member who participated
in the construction of the New Bern Bridge. He indicated that they were going to place the ball over on their side of
the channel as a service to members who wished to moor their boats for short transitory time periods and offered his
62' Hatteras yacht as an example of what might occupy the mooring on any given weekend as members "passed
through" the area to visit the club with their families. He went on to explain that the Club had over the last few years
made a concerted effort to make the Club more family oriented and this, along with their new marina built farther
north up the ICW was consistent with that strategy. I had a mooring in California for 20 years on which I put my
sailboat, so I speak "fluent mooring" and I told him that I had thought about putting a can out off my property for use
only in hurricanes but decided not to as moorings do require ongoing maintenance. I don't think the Club understands
this. You don't simply drop a mooring in and walk away from it. More on this later.
Imagine my surprise, a few days ago, when I look out on the bay and see a white mooring marker on our side of the
channel near Hiram's house. Greg had told me that his boat drew five feet of water and since my sailboat draws five
feet three inches, I can, understand the need for deep water. Accordingly, this past Saturday, my wife and I set out in
our Avon raft with a calibrated depth measuring pole which 1 used when I did site planning for my dock and took
water depth measurements in and around the proposed mooring site (the can will swing as you know). We also went
across the channel and did the same thing in the bay in front of the Club. Bear in mind that on Saturday the water was
extremely low due to a westerly wind that had been blowing for several days so it was a great time to do a worst case
analysis on water depth.
The results were as follows. The water depth where they want to put their can was 7.5 feet. The water depth along the
north area of their protected bay, well off the 1C W was also 7.5 feet. Their side also offers exceptional protection from
wind on three sides whereas the western location offers none. It makes no "nautical sense" to put it in open water
when you can just as easily put it in a protected, sheltered bay. Whatever they are going to put on their mooring, they
can put it on across the channel in their bay as they have the water depth to do it. I say "whatever" because in
subsequent conversations with other property owners it seems that our friends at the Club were planning tie up their
barge and related work boats to this mooring, in effect dumping their "industrial fleet" out of their view so the fat cats
can enjoy faster access to the two docks they already have on their property. This is unacceptable. Where does it stop
Ted? They already have a marina, two docks and a dedicated barge landing basin. 1f they have to have another
mooring or moorings (I mean why stop at one right?) so members can bring in their large boats and thereby expand
the residential capacity of the Club during hunting season, which is clearly part ofthe hidden agenda here, they can at
least do it on their side of the channel on the 4000 acres they own.

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This area is basically divided into two types of land use, residential and commercial. The residential side of the IC W
is our side with the commercial activity being on the their side. This encroachment of their mooring represents an
attempt to make a zoning change and I oppose it. May I also remind you that the area of their proposed mooring is
right in the middle of a designated marine nursery area as the white sign on my property states. 1 can guarantee you
that a mooring with multiple boats attached to it will shred and disturb the bottom as the can swings from continued
use in the violent winds of Gale Creek. Transitory single night use by anchored boats at certain times of the year is
one thing. Prolonged commercial use is another kettle of fish. Moorings, as stated above. have to be pulled and
serviced at least once a year as the City of Newport Beach, C.A. did to my mooring in California. Want to guess what
kind of crane/barge will be required to get their 54" ball up and out of the very sticky mud which dominates the
bottom on the west side of the channel? My friend you are going to get a whole new definition of environmental
impact if you put this thing where they want to in the size indicated.
If they want to destroy the environment, expand their residential capacity, which may violate the septic rating for their
property, fine. Just do it where it makes safe nautical sense, makes it more convenient and safe for shore boat transit
of their members and their families from anchored boats to the Club and not trash a residential/protected fishing area.
Sincerely,
omas P. Flyn
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ADJACENT RIPARIAN PROPERTY OWNER NOTIFICATION/WAIVER FORM
Name of Individual applying for Permit:
Address of Property:
(Lot or Street, Street or Road, City & County)
I hereby certify that Il own property adjacent to the above referenced property. The individual
applying for this permit has described to me as shown on the attached drawing the development
they are proposing. A description or drawing, with dimensions, should be provided with this
letter.
I have no objections to this proposal.
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Management, Hestron Plata II, 151-B, Hwy. 2-4, Morehead City, -NC, 28557 or call (252) 808-
2808 within,10 days of receipt of this notice. No response is considered the same as no objection
if you have been notified by, Certifled ivi il.
WAIVER SECTION
I understand that a pier, dock,'mooring pilings, breakwater, boat house, lift or sandbags must be
set back a minimum distance of 15' from my area of riparian access unless waived by me. (If you
wish to waive the setback, you must initial the appropriate blank below.)
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