19970695 Ver 1_401 Application_20080326

Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
11010 Raven Ridge Road • Raleigh, North Carolina 27614 • Phone: [phone] • Fax: [phone]
www.SandEC.com
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Hand Delivered
To: N.C. Division of Water Quality
401 Oversight/ Express Permits Unit
Attn: Cyndi Karoly & Lia Myott
2321 Crabtree Boulevard, Suite 250
Raleigh, NC 27604-2260
From: Beechwood Hills HOA, attn. Kevin Martin +, }7
PO Box 234 6a °
Franklinton, NC 27525 -Y?
Re: Request for NW Permit 29, 401 Certification #3705 & Buffer Approval , gray. e 4008
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Please find attached a complete application and supplemental information requesting Riparian
Buffer Authorization and Associated 401 Water Quality Certifications. Please contact me at (919)
270-7941 if you have any questions or require additional information.
PROJECT SUMMARY
Project Name Beechwood Hills Lake Western Cove Dredging &Foreba
Project Type Lake Dredging, Access Trail and Foreba
Owner / Applicant Beechwood Hills HOA, attn.Kevin Martin
Count Franklin
Nearest Town Franklinton
Waterbod Name Bills Creek
Basin / Sub-basin 03020101
Index Number 28-20
Class WS-IV;NSW
IMPACT SUMMARY
Total Riparian Buffer Impacts (square feet): 750
Permanent Open Water impacts (acres) 0.01
Temporary Open Water Impacts (acres) 0.12
Attachments:
DWQ Application Fee ($240)
Pre-construction Notification (PC-4) Application Form
Figure 1 USGS Site Vicinity Map
Figure 2 Franklin Co GIS Vicinity Map (Aerial Photo)
Plan (Figure 3) and Profile (Figure 4) Showing Proposed Impacts
Figure 5 Map of Beechwood Hills Subdivision
Site Photos (1) Existing Path (2) Sediment Plume To Be Removed
2/19/2008 email from Amy Chapman of DWQ
Rapanos Form (USACE only)
cc: Eric Alsmeyer, USACE Raleigh Regulatory Branch Office
Charlotte Office:
236 LePhillip Court, Suite C
Concord, NC 28025
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Greensboro Office:
3817-E Lawndale Drive
Greensboro, NC 27455
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Office Use Only: Form Version March 05
USACE Action ID No. DWQ No. oll - O to al 5 U c'?,
(If any particular item is not applicable to this project, please enter "Not Applicable" or "N/A".)
I. Processing PAID
1. Check all of the approval(s) requested for this project:
X Section 404 Permit X Riparian or Watershed Buffer Rules
? Section 10 Permit ? Isolated Wetland Permit from DWQ
X 401 Water Quality Certification ? Express 401 Water Quality Certification
2. Nationwide, Regional or General Permit Number(s) Requested: 29
3. If this notification is solely a courtesy copy because written approval for the 401 Certification
is not required, check here: ?
4. If payment into the North Carolina Ecosystem Enhancement Program (NCEEP) is proposed
for mitigation of impacts, attach the acceptance letter from NCEEP, complete section VIII,
and check here: ?
5. If your project is located in any of North Carolina's twenty coastal counties (listed on page
4), and the project is within a North Carolina Division of Coastal Management Area of
Environmental Concern (see the top of page 2 for further details), check here: ?
II. Applicant Information
1. Owner/Applicant Information
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Name: Beechwood Hills HOA attn. Kevin Martin vb, it
Mailing Address: PO Box 234 WE'D-ANDS r?r'r =Jscfa.'"'
Franklinton NC 27525
Telephone Number: [phone] Fax Number: None
E-mail Address: kmartin(c_sandec.com
2. Agent/Consultant Information (A signed and dated copy of the Agent Authorization letter
must be attached if the Agent has signatory authority for the owner/applicant.)
Name: N/A
Company Affiliation:
Mailing Address:
Telephone Number:
E-mail Address:
Fax Number:
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III. Project Information
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Attach a vicinity map clearly showing the location of the property with respect to local
landmarks such as towns, rivers, and roads. Also provide a detailed site plan showing property
boundaries and development plans in relation to surrounding properties. Both the vicinity map
and site plan must include a scale and north arrow. The specific footprints of all buildings,
impervious surfaces, or other facilities must be included. If possible, the maps and plans should
include the appropriate USGS Topographic Quad Map and NRCS Soil Survey with the property
boundaries outlined. Plan drawings, or other maps may be included at the applicant's discretion,
so long as the property is clearly defined. For administrative and distribution purposes, the
USACE requires information to be submitted on sheets no larger than 11 by 17-inch format;
however, DWQ may accept paperwork of any size. DWQ prefers full-size construction
drawings rather than a sequential sheet version of the full-size plans. If full-size plans are
reduced to a small scale such that the final version is illegible, the applicant will be informed that
the project has been placed on hold until decipherable maps are provided.
1. Name of project: Beechwood Hills Lake Western Cove Dredging & Forebay
T.I.P. Project Number or State Project Number (NCDOT Only): N/A
3. Property Identification Number (Tax PIN): None
4. Location
County: Franklin Nearest Town: Franklinton
Subdivision name (include phase/lot number): Beechwood Hills
Directions to site (include road numbers/names, landmarks, etc.):
The subdivision is bordered to the east by Billys Creek with Autumn Dr being
roughly the border to the west. From Raleigh take Capital Blvd./ US-1 N. Continue
to follow US-1 N. to Highway 56 East at Franklinton. Turn right on to Hwy 56 East
toward Louisburg then in downtown Franklinton (about 0.4 miles) turn left on Main
Street (HWY 1-A North) Follow Main St north thru town (0.5 miles) and turn right on
Pearce St (there is an old white block building where you turn and you will
immediately cross a railroad track) then take the next left on to Winston street (it is
only 100' from the RR Track to Winston St). Take Winston St. about 0.5 miles then
turn right on Beechwood rd. and go about 0.5 miles then bear left onto Autumn Dr
after you pass thru a security -gate. Take Autumn drive to about 0.1 mile from the
end (about 0.3 miles). The existing access path and cove will be to your right just
before you cross a tributary stream.
Site coordinates (For linear projects, such as a road or utility line, attach a sheet that
separately lists the coordinates for each crossing of a distinct waterbody.)
Decimal Degrees (6 digits minimum): 36.1210°N. 78.4422°W
6. Property size (acres): 270 acres (entire subdivision)
7. Name of nearest receiving body of water: Billys Creek (WS-IV:NSW): 28-20
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8. River Basin: Tar-Pamlico
(Note - this must be one of North Carolina's seventeen designated major river basins. The
River Basin map is available at http://h2o.enr.state.nc.us/admin/maps/.)
9. Describe the existing conditions on the site and general land use in the vicinity of the project
at the time of this application: The site has been a large lot single family subdivision
since 1986 ; prior to development, the site was forest land. Land use in the vicinity
of this site is a mix of residential development and forestland.
Describe the overall project in detail, including the type of equipment to be used: Perform
Maintenance dredging to restore lake bottom to original contours in The west cove of
the lake. As the attached "sandbar" photo shows (the lake has been lowered 6' to
allow the sediment to dry and be evaluated for contractors to give estimates for
removal). The excavated area will be roughly 50' wide by 110' long. There is an
existing path that has been historically used to access the lake for maintenance
dredging (see photos). However, the sediment remaining is beyond the reach of the
equipment (excavators) so they will have to work on mats on the lake bottom and
possibly double handle material. The dredging will result in no permanent impacts
and no loss of waters of the US.
The two issues here are from a 404/401 standpoint the desire to install a gabion
wall below water level so that the area can be maintained in the future without
entering the lake as has been done on the south end. New lakes are now designed
with this forebay installed from the start. The gabion wall will be 40' long and about
10' wide ( See attached sketches). While this is fill (thus necessitating the 404) there
is no loss of waters of the US since the gabion top will below the normal poll
elevation of the lake. The buffer approval issue is that the contractor believes they
will need to add gravel to the path where none currently exists for the trucks hauling
the sediment to a high ground disposal site to climb the hill (see maps for disposal
site location). The buffer rules allow for temporary roads within the buffer with no
approval required. While this is fine and would work (the contractor would just
remove the gravel after the work is done), knowing that they will need to get back in
at some time in the future the removal of the gravel does not make sense
economically nor environmentally. Based on emails with Amy Chapman, she
believed this could be approved without mitigation under the buffer rules (see
attached email correspondence)
10. Explain the purpose of the proposed work: The purpose of the proposed work is to
provide maintain useable open water for the homeowners in an existing subdivision
and lake which existed prior to the adoption of the Tar-Pam Riparian Buffer rules.
IV. Prior Project History
If jurisdictional determinations and/or permits have been requested and/or obtained for this
project (including all prior phases of the same subdivision) in the past, please explain. Include
the USACE Action ID Number, DWQ Project Number, application date, and date permits and
certifications were issued or withdrawn. Provide photocopies of previously issued permits,
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certifications or other useful information. Describe previously approved wetland, stream and
buffer impacts, along with associated mitigation (where applicable). If this is a NCDOT project,
list and describe permits issued for prior segments of the same T.I.P. project, along with
construction schedules..
This project has no previously issued 401 or 404 permits since it was constructed at a
time when the impacts would have been below notification thresholds (i.e. 1986)
V. Future Project Plans
Are any future permit requests anticipated for this project? If so, describe the anticipated work,
and provide justification for the exclusion of this work from the current application.
No future permit requests are anticipated for this subdivision
VI. Proposed Impacts to Waters of the United States/Waters of the State
It is the applicant's (or agent's) responsibility to determine, delineate and map all impacts to
wetlands, open water, and stream channels associated with the project. Each impact must be
listed separately in the tables below (e.g., culvert installation should be listed separately from
riprap dissipater pads). Be sure to indicate if an impact is temporary. All proposed impacts,
permanent and temporary, must be listed, and must be labeled and clearly identifiable on an
accompanying site plan. All wetlands and waters, and all streams (intermittent and perennial)
should be shown on a delineation map, whether or not impacts are proposed to these systems.
Wetland and stream evaluation and delineation forms should be included as appropriate.
Photographs may be included at the applicant's discretion. If this proposed impact is strictly for
wetland or stream mitigation, list and describe the impact in Section VIII below. If additional
space is needed for listing or description, please attach a separate sheet.
1. Provide a written description of the proposed impacts: Fill will include a gabion wall to
form a forebav below water level, it will be roughly 40' long and 10' wide at the base
Additionally 0.12 acres of lake bottom will be dredged to original contours with
sediment removed to a high round disposal site.
2. Individually list wetland impacts. Types of impacts include, but are not limited to
mechanized clearing, grading, fill, excavation, flooding, ditching/drainage, etc. For dams,
separately list impacts due to both structure and flooding.
Wetland Impact Type of Wetland Located within Distance to Area of
Site Number Type of Impact (e.g., forested, marsh, 100-year Nearest Impact
(indicate on map) herbaceous, bog, etc.) Floodplain Stream (acres)
(yes/no) (linear feet)
N/A None N/A N/A N/A 0
Total Wetland Impact (acres) 0
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3. List the total acreage (estimated) of all existing wetlands on the property: The project area
contains no wetlands only waters of the state (a lake)
4. Individually list all intermittent and perennial stream impacts. Be sure to identify temporary
impacts. Stream impacts include, but are not limited to placement of fill or culverts, dam
construction, flooding, relocation, stabilization activities (e.g., cement walls, rip-rap, crib
walls, gabions, etc.), excavation, ditching/straightening, etc. If stream relocation is proposed,
plans and profiles showing the linear footprint for both the original and relocated streams
must be included. To calculate acreage, multiply length X width, then divide by 43,560.
Stream Impact Perennial or Average Impact Area of
Number Stream Name Type of Impact Intermittent? Stream Width Length Impact
(indicate on ma) Before Impact (linear feet (acres)
N/A N/A None N/A N/A 0 0
Total Stream Impact (by length and acreage) 0 0
5. Individually list all open water impacts (including lakes, ponds, estuaries, sounds, Atlantic
Ocean and any other water of the U.S.). Open water impacts include, but are not limited to
fill, excavation, dredging, flooding, drainage, bulkheads, etc.
Open Water Impact Name
Wate Type of Waterbody Area of
Site Number e)
(if applicable) Type of Impact (lake, Pand estuary, sound, bay, Impact
(indicate on ma) ocean, etc.) (acres)

1 Beechwood Hills Lake Fill Lake 0.01
Excavation 0.12
Total Open Water Impact (acres) permanent 0.01
6. List the cumulative impact to all Waters of the U.S. resulting from the project:
Stream Impact (acres): 0
Wetland Impact (acres): 0
Open Water Impact (acres): permanent 0.01
Total Impact to Waters of the U.S. (acres) permanent 0.01
Total Stream Impact (linear feet): 0
7. Isolated Waters
Do any isolated waters exist on the property? Yes X No
Describe all impacts to isolated waters, and include the type of water (wetland or stream) and
the size of the proposed impact (acres or linear feet). Please note that this section only
applies to waters that have specifically been determined to be isolated by the USACE.
N/A
8. Pond Creation
If construction of a pond is proposed, associated wetland and stream impacts should be
included above in the wetland and stream impact sections. Also, the proposed pond should
be described here and illustrated on any maps included with this application.
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Pond to be created in (check all that apply): ? uplands ? stream ? wetlands
Describe the method of construction (e.g., dam/embankment, excavation, installation of
draw-down valve or spillway, etc.): N/A
Proposed use or purpose of pond (e.g., livestock watering, irrigation, aesthetic, trout pond,
local stormwater requirement, etc.): N/A
Current land use in the vicinity of the pond: N/A
Size of watershed draining to pond: N/A Expected pond surface area: N/A
VII. Impact Justification (Avoidance and Minimization)
Specifically describe measures taken to avoid the proposed impacts. It may be useful to provide
information related to site constraints such as topography, building ordinances, accessibility, and
financial viability of the project. The applicant may attach drawings of alternative, lower-impact
site layouts, and explain why these design options were not feasible. Also discuss how impacts
were minimized once the desired site plan was developed. If applicable, discuss construction
techniques to be followed during construction to reduce impacts.. No new forest vegetation
will be removed for the access oath, the proposed path area is within an area that was
cleared for that purpose prior to the buffer rules and has been maintained since clearing
in 1986. At substantial cost the applicant is constructing a forebay so future
maintenance can be done from high ground without entering the lake bed with
equipment.
VIII. Mitigation
DWQ - In accordance with 15A NCAC 2H .0500, mitigation may be required by the NC
Division of Water Quality for projects involving greater than or equal to one acre of impacts to
freshwater wetlands or greater than or equal to 150 linear feet of total impacts to perennial
streams.
USACE - In accordance with the Final Notice of Issuance and Modification of Nationwide
Permits, published in the Federal Register on January 15, 2002, mitigation will be required when
necessary to ensure that adverse effects to the aquatic environment are minimal. Factors
including size and type of proposed impact and function and relative value of the impacted
aquatic resource will be considered in determining acceptability of appropriate and practicable
mitigation as proposed. Examples of mitigation that may be appropriate and practicable include,
but are not limited to: reducing the size of the project; establishing and maintaining wetland
and/or upland vegetated buffers to protect open waters such as streams; and replacing losses of
aquatic resource functions and values by creating, restoring, enhancing, or preserving similar
functions and values, preferable in the same watershed.
If mitigation is required for this project, a copy of the mitigation plan must be attached in order
for USACE or DWQ to consider the application complete for processing. Any application
lacking a required mitigation plan or NCEEP concurrence shall be placed on hold as incomplete.
An applicant may also choose to review the current guidelines for stream restoration in DWQ's
Draft Technical Guide for Stream Work in North Carolina, available at
http://h2o.enr.state.nc.us/ncwctlands/stn-ngide.html.
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1. Provide a brief description of the proposed mitigation plan. The description should provide
as much information as possible, including, but not limited to: site location (attach directions
and/or map, if offsite), affected stream and river basin, type and amount (acreage/linear feet)
of mitigation proposed (restoration, enhancement, creation, or preservation), a plan view,
preservation mechanism (e.g., deed restrictions, conservation easement, etc.), and a
description of the current site conditions and proposed method of construction. Please attach
a separate sheet if more space is needed.
Because impacts are proposed to iurisdictional areas are below DEQ mitigation
thresholds and result in no loss of Waters of the US no open water mitigation is
proposed. Additionally, the riparian buffer impacts proposed are considered
"allowable" therefore no riparian buffer mitigation is proposed please see section
X.3 and the attached email from Amy Chapman for details
2. Mitigation may also be made by payment into the North Carolina Ecosystem Enhancement
Program (NCEEP). Please note it is the applicant's responsibility to contact the NCEEP at
[phone] to determine availability, and written approval from the NCEEP indicating
that they are will to accept payment for the mitigation must be attached to this form. For
additional information regarding the application process for the NCEEP, check the NCEEP
website at http://h2o.enr.state.nc.us/wrp/index.htm. If use of the NCEEP is proposed, please
check the appropriate box on page five and provide the following information:
Amount of stream mitigation requested (linear feet): N/A
Amount of buffer mitigation requested (square feet): 0
Amount of Riparian wetland mitigation requested (acres): N/A
Amount of Non-riparian wetland mitigation requested (acres): N/A
Amount of Coastal wetland mitigation requested (acres): N/A
IX. Environmental Documentation (required by DWQ)
1. Does the project involve an expenditure of public (federal/state/local) funds or the use of
public (federal/state) land? Yes ? No
2. If yes, does the project require preparation of an environmental document pursuant to the
requirements of the National or North Carolina Environmental Policy Act (NEPA/SEPA)?
Note: If you are not sure whether a NEPA/SEPA document is required, call the SEPA
coordinator at [phone] to review current thresholds for environmental documentation.
Yes ? No ?
3. If yes, has the document review been finalized by the State Clearinghouse? If so, please
attach a copy of the NEPA or SEPA final approval letter. Yes ? No ?
X. Proposed Impacts on Riparian and Watershed Buffers (required by DWQ)
It is the applicant's (or agent's) responsibility to determine, delineate and map all impacts to
required state and local buffers associated with the project. The applicant must also provide
justification for these impacts in Section VII above. All proposed impacts must be listed herein,
and must be clearly identifiable on the accompanying site plan. All buffers must be shown on a
map, whether or not impacts are proposed to the buffers. Correspondence from the DWQ
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Regional Office may be included as appropriate. Photographs may also be included at the
applicant's discretion.
1. Will the project impact protected riparian buffers identified within 15A NCAC 213 .0233
(Meuse), 15A NCAC 213 .0259 (Tar-Pamlico), 15A NCAC 02B .0243 (Catawba) 15A NCAC
2B .0250 (Randleman Rules and Water Supply Buffer Requirements), or other (please
identify )? Yes ® No ?
2. If "yes", identify the square feet and acreage of impact to each zone of the riparian buffers.
If buffer mitigation is required calculate the required amount of mitigation by applying the
buffer multipliers.
INDIVIDUAL LOT PIER Access Path
Zone* Impact Multiplier Required
(square feet) Mitigation
1 450 3 0
2 300 1.5 0
Total 750 0
* Zone 1 extends out 30 feet perpendicular from the top of the near bank of channel; Zone 2 extends an
additional 20 feet from the edge of Zone 1.
If buffer mitigation is required, please discuss what type of mitigation is proposed (i.e.,
Donation of Property, Riparian Buffer Restoration / Enhancement, or Payment into the
Riparian Buffer Restoration Fund). Please attach all appropriate information as identified
within 15A NCAC 213 .0242 or.0244, or.0260. Riparian buffer impacts proposed are to
activities defined as trails and are considered an "allowable" use within the NCAC
02B .0259(6): Table of uses therefore mitigation is not required In fact temporary
access paths could be constructed without notification, but as described above
would not make sense in this situation.
XI. Stormwater (required by DWQ)
Describe impervious acreage (existing and proposed) versus total acreage on the site. Discuss
stormwater controls proposed in order to protect surface waters and wetlands downstream from
the property. If percent impervious surface exceeds 20%, please provide calculations
demonstrating total proposed impervious level. The subdivision is a large lot single family
subdivision well below 24% IMPERVIOUS (LOTS ARE FROM 2.5 ACRES TO 18 ACRES IN
SIZE) AND WAS CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO THE Tar Pam buffer rules or the 401
stormwater requirements.
XII. Sewage Disposal (required by DWQ)
Clearly detail the ultimate treatment methods and disposition (non-discharge or discharge) of
wastewater generated from the proposed project, or available capacity of the subject facility. The
existing homes are connected to an existing countv approved septic systems
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XIII. Violations (required by DWQ)
Is this site in violation of DWQ Wetland Rules (I 5A NCAC 2H .0500) or any Buffer Rules?
Yes ? No
Is this. an after-the-fact permit application? Yes ? . No
XIV. Cumulative Impacts (required by DWQ)
Will this project (based on past and reasonably anticipated future impacts) result in additional
development, which could impact nearby downstream water quality? Yes ? No
If yes, please submit a qualitative or quantitative cumulative impact analysis in accordance with
the most recent North Carolina Division of Water Quality policy posted on our website at
http://h2o.enr.state.nc.us/ncwetlands. If no, please provide a short narrative description: I have
reviewed the "DRAFT Internal Policy Cumulative impacts and the 401 Water Quality
Certification and Isolated Wetland Programs" document prepared by the NC Division of
Water Quality on October 3 2002, version 1.6. The proposed project will not result in
new lots so no additional impacts would be anticipated
XV. Other Circumstances (Optional):
It is the applicant's responsibility to submit the application sufficiently in advance of desired
construction dates to allow processing time for these permits. However, an applicant may
choose to list constraints associated with construction or sequencing that may impose limits on
work schedules (e.g., draw-down schedules for lakes, dates associated with Endangered and
Threatened Species, accessibility problems, or other issues outside of the applicant's control).
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From: Amy Chapman [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Tue 2/19/2008 2:31 PM
To: Kevin Martin
Subject: Re: Beechwood Lake dredging
Hey Kevin.
Well the good news for the buffer portion of the project for the path on the west cove, is
that it can be covered under a buffer authorization requiring no mitigation under the use
in the table of uses for greenway/hiking trails. And since they'll need to have a 404/401
for this section of the project, the buffer impacts can just be roped in with that. I talked to
Ian about the 401/404 for the gabion wall in the western cove they're proposing and we
can't say we'd have a problem with it. Of course we'll have to review it, but it shouldn't be
an obstacle.
The south end portion of the project sounds like no written concurrence will be needed
from DWQ.
Let me know if we still need to meet.
Thanks.
-Amy
Kevin Martin wrote:
Amy, attached are some photos of one of the projects we will be discussing Thursday. The Corps
has agreed they can cover the maintenance dredging under one or more nationwide permits (29,
18 and/or 33 or 40). This lake was built in 1986 and for years they have been removing
accumulated sediment every couple of years using existing access paths that are not graveled,
and by sitting equipment on the bank and reaching as far as they can. This is and will continue to
be effective at the south end of the lake where gabions were installed to slowdown the water and
allow silt to accumulate behind them. The area is accessible from both sides and within the reach
of the equipment without double handling the material or entering the bed of the lake. The Corps
position on that work is that it does not require a 404 permit, and since the path at the south end
is graveled and the gabions were in place for many years there is not a buffer issue since it is an
existing use prior to 1/1/00
The west cove of the lake is a bit different. as the "sandbar" photo shows (the lake has been
lowered 6' to allow the sediment to dry and be evaluated for contractors to give estimates for
removal). The excavated area will be roughly 50' wide by 110' long. There is an existing path here
as well (see photos), but the sediment remaining is beyond the reach of the equipment so they
will have to work on mats on the lake bottom and possibly double handle material. The two issues
here are from a 404/401 standpoint the desire to install a gabion wall below water level so that
the area can be maintained in the future without entering the lake much as has been done on the
south end. New lakes are now designed with this forebay installed from the start. The gabion wall
will be 40' long and about 10' wide ( I will send hand sketches by another email). I do not see this
as an issue either, while it is fill (thus necessitating the 404) there is no loss of waters of the US.
The issue is that the contractor believes they will need to add gravel to the path where none
currently exists for the trucks hauling the sediment to a high ground disposal site to climb the hill.
The buffer rules allow for temporary roads within the buffer with no approval required. While this
is fine and would work they would just remove the gravel after the work is done. However
knowing that they will need to get back in at some time in the future the removal does not make
sense economically nor environmentally. The HOA does not have $ to pay a lot of mitigation
costs so I was trying to figure a way to handle this without mitigation, the sediment removal alone
is costing $34,000.00. Kevin

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