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Subject: FW: Heritage High School, S&EC#4716.P4
From: "Debbie Edwards" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:49:32 -0400
To: <[e-mail]>

Lia,
See emails below, specifically the very first email from Dale Crisp. And just to avoid the question, is my
understanding that Wake County Public School System will be installing the 8" pipe and at a later date, the City
of Raleigh will be upgrading that to a 24" pipe. This upgrade will take place after the City determines the specific
requirements of the Smith Creek Trunk Sewer Improvements.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Debbie
Debbie Edwards
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
1 1010 Raven Ridge Road, Raleigh, NC 27614
office: 919-846-5900
fax: [phone]
mobile: [phone]
email: dedwards(&sandec.com
A Think before you print.
From: Debbie Edwards
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:26 AM
To: 'Robert L Stutts'; '[e-mail]'; 'Susan Holt'
Cc: 'Rogers, Barney'; 'Glenn Medlin'; 'Barber, Danielle'
Subject: Heritage High School, S&EC#4716.P4
In conversation with Glenn last week, it is my understanding that CLH can keep the slopes of the 8" sanitary
sewer main to a minimum which would allow the sanitary sewer to only "temporarily" impact Smith Creek vs.
"permanently" impact Smith creek by remaining above the bed of the stream. Therefore the previous approvals
from the USACE and the NCDWQ can be used for this project as long as the "footprint" of the temporary
impacts will stay the same. If you have any questions, please feel free to give me a call or send me an email.
Thanks,
Debbie
Debbie Edwards
Soil & Environmental Consultants, PA
1 1010 Raven Ridge Road, Raleigh, NC 2761.4
office: 919-846-5900
fax: [phone]
mobile: [phone]
email: dedwards(&,,sandec.com
fr think before you print.
From: Glenn Medlin [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 5:39 PM
To: 'Barber, Danielle'; 'Robert L Stuffs'; 'David O'Shea'; 'Kerber, Edward S.'
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FW: Heritage High School, S&EC#4716.P4
Cc: Debbie Edwards; 'Rogers, Barney'; 'Crisp, Dale'; '[e-mail]'
Subject: RE: RE: Heritage High - Reminder
From my understanding based on conversations with the Town, there is no need for an off-site easement. The
area in question is within the 100' stream buffer dedicated to the Town of Wake Forest for their Clean Water
Management Program. Site plan approval by the Town provided us with the access to install the sewer in that
area. I hope this clears up any confusion.
We are working on the revision and will submit them to the City in the immediate future.
Thank you again for your cooperation with this difficult issue.
Glenn Medlin
Project Manager/CA Representative
CLH Design P.A.
125 Edinburgh South - Suite 310
Cary, NC 27511
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
gmedlinCaDclhdesignpa.com
From: Barber, Danielle [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:11 AM
To: Glenn Medlin; Robert L Stutts; David O'Shea; Kerber, Edward S.
Cc: Debbie Edwards; Rogers, Barney; Crisp, Dale; [e-mail]
Subject: RE: RE: Heritage High - Reminder
Thank you for your explanation it clears up any confusion I might have had. Please record the off-site easement
prior to installing the 8" . Technically, the off-site easement should have been recorded prior to approval of the
construction plans. Technically, you have no access to public sewer until that easement exists. It is for our
protection as well as yours.
Thanks,
Danielle ff)arkcr
Civil Engineer
City of Raleigh
Public Utilities Administration
919-831-6162
Danielle. Barber(a-)_ci. raleigh. nc. us
WATER
USE IT
"WISELY.
From: Glenn Medlin [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:46 PM
To: Barber, Danielle; 'Robert L Stutts'; 'David O'Shea'; 'Kerber, Edward S.'
Cc: 'Debbie Edwards'; Rogers, Barney; Crisp, Dale; '[e-mail]'
Subject: RE: RE: Heritage High - Reminder
Danielle,
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FW: Heritage High School, S&EC#4716.P4
Thanks for the quick response. In response to your questions:
Yes, we will be connecting at the same point.
No, the off-site portion of the easement has not been recorded, yet. This is something that will occur prior to
completion of the project and obtaining a C.O.
We will submit revised drawings (with the required permit information) to the City as soon as possible; however,
there seems to be some conflict between your email and the email from Dale Crisp (seen below). From Dale's
email, it is my understanding that we install the 24-in main as shown on the plans and only need to install the
8-in extension across the stream. The City will come back in the future and re-install that portion of the line
when the Smith Creek Trunk Sewer Improvements are designed and installed.
Dale,
Is that correct? Please advise.
It is paramount that all parties are on the same page with this issue, as there are still some lingering permits that
may need to be acquired. From conversations with S&EC, if the 8-in extension is allowed to be installed and it
will not encroach above the stream bed, then we are already approved by DWQ and USACOE under the current
NWP-12.
We can try to schedule all parties involved to a meeting if WCPSS or the City feel it is necessary, but hopefully
we can resolve these minor discrepancies over emails.
We look forward to your responses and if there are any questions, please do not hesitate to call.
Glenn Medlin
Project Manager/CA Representative
CLH Design P.A.
125 Edinburgh South - Suite 310
Cary, NC 27511
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
gmedlin(a)_clhdesignpa.com
From: Barber, Danielle [mailto:Danielle. [e-mail]. us]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:51 AM
To: Glenn Medlin; Robert L Stutts; David O'Shea; Kerber, Edward S.
Cc: Debbie Edwards; Rogers, Barney
Subject: RE: RE: Heritage High - Reminder
Glenn,
Please submit a new drawing and application with the 8" extension for the high school. Will you be connecting at
the same point the 24" was proposed to be installed? It is my understanding the 24" will still be installed once all
stream crossing permits are obtained. Is that correct? If that is not the agreement please let me know since the
outfall to serve the basin will have to be installed at some point. I have not been in on the full discussion and
was out of the office on Thursday and Friday. Has the off-site portion of the easement been recorded yet?
Please have the legal reference on the plan for the easement. We are requiring the stream crossing permit
approval from DWQ and/or the corps permission to appear on the plans either by permit approval # or letter
since this has become an issue in many projects.
Thanks,
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FW: Heritage High School, S&EC#4716.P4
Danielle 5arkcr
Civil Engineer
City of Raleigh
Public Utilities Administration
919-831-6162
Danielle. Barber(cD_ci. raleigh. nc. us
WATER
USE IT
WISELYO
From: Glenn Medlin [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:36 AM
To: 'Robert L Stutts'; 'David O'Shea'; 'Kerber, Edward S.'
Cc: Barber, Danielle; 'Debbie Edwards'
Subject: RE: RE: Heritage High - Reminder
Bob,
I will be in Pembroke all day tomorrow and cannot attend our meeting. I will be available via mobile at
796-6878.
I will coordinate with S&EC and COR to determine what, if any, new permits/drawings are requried for this
change.
Danielle,
I would assume the City needs atleast another drawing showing the reduction to an 8-in line and the profile view
of the stream crossing? Is that correct? Does this mean we can begin construction, or do we need to wait until
this revision is approved? Please advise.
Debbie,
How does the below email affect the permitting from your side of things? I would assume that we are now back
to a temporary impact and are already approved? Doyou need a new drawing showing the new crossing?
Please advise.
Thanks,
Glenn Medlin
Project Manager/CA Representative
CLH Design P.A.
125 Edinburgh South - Suite 310
Cary, NC 27511
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
gmedlin(a)_clhdesignpa.com
From: Robert L Stutts [mailto:[e-mail]]
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FW: Heritage High School, S&EC#4716.P4
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:22 AM
To: 'David O'Shea'; 'Kerber, Edward S.'
Cc: 'Glenn Medlin'
Subject: FW: RE: Heritage High - Reminder
Guys,
Let's be prepared to discuss this at Tuesday's meeting.
Thanks,
Bob
From: Michael H Burriss [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:47 PM
To: Robert L Stutts; Troy Donald Parker; Betty L Parker; Margaret Sutter
Subject: Fw: RE: Heritage High - Reminder
Please forward these comments to your design and CM teams and then schedule a discussion of
the pros and cons of this offer(quickly please)
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Mike Burriss
Assistant Supt. Facilities - WCPSS
919-664-5730
1551 Rock Quarry Rd, Raleigh, NC 27610
-----Forwarded by Michael H Burriss/Facilities/WCPSS on 07.11.2008 04:45PM -----
To: Michael H Burriss/Facilities/WCPSS@Staff
From: "Crisp, Dale" <[e-mail]>
Date: 07.11.2008 03:33PM
cc: "Massengill, Robert" <[e-mail]>, "Barber, Danielle"
<[e-mail]>, "Rogers, Barney" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Heritage High - Reminder
Mike,
Sorry for the delay in getting this memo to you to confirm our discussion from Wednesday.
You may proceed with the design and permitting of the minimum sewer extension necessary to serve this new
school since we have not yet determine the requirements for the Smith Creek Trunk Sewer Improvements - I
assume this will be an 8-inch sewer main extension. However, we do require that you provide a 40 feet wide,
recorded permanent sanitary sewer easement across the school property in order that we may parallel the
existing trunk sewer at some point in the future to provide additional future capacity. Thanks, Dale.
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H. Dale Crisp, P.E.
Raleigh Public Utilities Director
One Exchange Plaza , Suite 620
(919)-857-4540 fax [phone]
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From: Michael H Burriss [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:35 PM
To: Crisp, Dale
Subject: Heritage High - Reminder
You were going to send a note, or do we need to have our teams meet?
Providing Services that Power Education
Mike Burriss
Assistant Supt. Facilities - WCPSS
919-664-5730
1551 Rock Quarry Rd , Raleigh , NC 27610
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