HomeMy WebLinkAbout20110156 Ver 1_Staff Comments_20111121 Lucas, Annette
From Lucas Annette
Sent Monday November 21 2011 12 03 PM
To Homewood Sue
Sub�ect 11 0156 Mount Airy Surry County Airport—take 2
Attachments 11 0156 Mount Airy Surry County Airport take 3 docx
Sue
My comments are attached—please proof them for me to make sure they are clear&accurate
Thanks
Annette
Annette M Lucas PE
Environmental Engineer
NCDENR � DWQ � Wetlands and Stormwater Branch
1650 Mail Service Center Raleigh NC 27699 1650 (Mail)
512 N Salisbury St Raleigh 1VC 27604 � 9� Floor (Location & Parcels)
Phone (919) 807 6381 � F� (919) 807 6494 � Email Annette Lucasuncdenr �ov
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11 0156 Mount Airy Surry County Airport—take 2
AML comments
November 21 2011
1 Please prov�de Dra�nage Area plan sheets for Station Nos 63+00 through 78+00 It �s unclear
from the narrative Dra�nage Area plans and Grad�ng Plans prov�ded what the proposed post
construct�on stormwater management plan is for this section of the road real�gnment NCDWQ
highly recommends no d�rect discharges of untreated stormwater m this area If d�rect d�scharges
of untreated stormwater are proposed for this area please prov�de a deta�led�ustificat�on for the
d�rect d�scharge of untreated stormwater
2 As you have requested the stormwater management plan for the rema�nder of the airport srte will
be considered conceptual Please provide written ver�ficat�on that the design details for the
BMPs to treat the airport dramage provided m your prev�ous submittal are not to be reviewed by
the DWQ as final stormwater management plans
3 Please prov�de the follow�ng information regardmg the conceptual stormwater management plan
for the a�rport
a A depiction of the drainage areas on the srte
b An estimation of the percentage imperviousness associated with each of the
dramage areas
c A calculation of the water quality volume associated wrth each dramage area
d A depiction of each proposed BMP on the site plan that is correctly sized based
on the water quality volume Please note that a grassed swale that drains to a dry
detention pond will typically�ust treat a portion of the drainage area of the entire
pond
4 Please provide verificat�on that the FAA has reviewed the proposed conceptual stormwater
management plan for treatmg the �mprovements to the airport and that�t concurs w�th the
proposed des�gn and is will�ng to take over the long term mamtenance of the proposed devices
If the proposed conceptual stormwater plan is not approved by the FAA then please work w�th
the agency to develop an alternative that w�ll be acceptable
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Lucas, Annette
From Lucas Annette
Sent Monday November 21 2011 11 08 AM
To Smad Ed
Cc Homewood Sue Lastinger James C SAW Kirby Jeff Kennerly Timothy S Murphy
Gordon Higgms Karen Lucas Annette
Sub�ect RE Mount Airy Surry County Airport(SAW 20100 1397 and DWQ Pro�ect# 11 0156)
Dear Ed ,
I have discussed your request with Sue and we are willing to approve this pro�ect with a condition that after the road
relocation no other DWQ approvals could be received until the final SW plan for the runway extension was submitted to
DWQ
As you and I�ust discussed on the phone we will be sending a request for more information regarding the stormwater
plan for the roadway relocation and the conceptual stormwater plan for the airport portion of the site
We are happy to meet with you if you would like to discuss the request for more information letter in person at a
mutually convenient location—we�ust ask that a representative from the airport be present to hear the discussion first
hand
Have a great holiday
Annette
From Smad, Ed [mailto ESmail@ccroadwise com]
Sent Thursday, November 17 2011 12 48 PM
To Lucas, Annette
Cc Homewood Sue Lastinger James C SAW, Kirby, ]eff, Kennerly,Timothy S, Murphy, Gordon
Sub�ect Mount Airy Surry County Airport(SAW 20100 1397 and DWQ Pro�ect # 11 0156)
Annette
Thanks again for discussing the pro�ect with me yesterday on the phone After looking into the proposed 401 condition
that would require the a Final Stormwater Management Plan prior to beginning construction on the Road Relocation it
was determined that this option would not allow the pro�ect to move forward since there is not funding available to
compete the final design on the Runway/Taxiway extension Since is it the intent of the permittee to begin construction
on the Road Relocation ASAP this option would not fit into the proposed construction/funding schedule However we
understand that DWQ needs to follow the�r administrative process and comply w►th state and federal regulations
As an alternative option would it be possible to have a condition that would state that after the Road Relocation no
other DWQ approvals could be received until the a Final Stormwater Management Plan for the Runway Extension was
submitted to DWQ? I am not sure if this is a possibility but if so it would lock the Airport into the completing the
Runway/Taxiway Extension as the next pro�ect and allows for the construction of the Road Relocation to move forward
as scheduled
The Airport Authority in con�unction with the Federal Aviation Administration and the NC Division of Aviation are fully
committed to completing the Runway Extension and have completed the followmg items�n order to move the pro�ect
forward
1 Purchased 8 parcels of land at an approximate cost of$1 2 million
2 Displaced 3 families and relocated 2 homes
3 Started condemnation proceedings on 1 parcel cost=$671000
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4 Negotiated the purchase of and relocation of a local fire station
5 Negot�ated the purchase of 4 additional parcels of property which will result in one additional family
displacement Anticipate closing within 60 days
6 Committed to paying for mitigation impacts at a cost of approximately$900 000
The Airport Authority has been working on this runway extension pro�ect for nearly 10 years and they are fully
committed to the pro�ect depending on receipt of funds The current Transportation Improvement Plan that is on file
with the NC Division of Aviation outlines the runway extension program and is the highest priority with the Authority
Unfortunately funding for a pro�ect of this size typicaliy comes in increments of differing sizes and never is fully
committed at the outset The schedule of funding for the entire program at this time is uncertain So while the Runway
Extension does not currently have funding it is marked for the future funding that the Airport would receive
Due to the nature of public funding the Airport would need to allocate the funds it has now to do as much as they can
to implement the pro�ect If funds are not spent on pro�ects on hand in a timely manner there is a potential that the
Airport could lose the funding and the funds would be re allocated to other airports by the NC Division of Aviation
Therefore the Airport could not bank public funding to complete the Runway Extension and Road Relocation at the
same time at a later date The road relocation takes first priority in completing the overall pro�ect since the runway
cannot be extended without the road being relocated After the road relocation is completed the next pro�ect to be
performed would be the runway/taxiway extension therefore the runway extension design will be the next design effort
performed
I apologize for the lengthy email but I�ust wanted to make sure the DWQ was aware of the intricacies involved with the
pro�ect as a whole If you have any questions please feel free to give me a call I w�ll be in the office for the rest of the
week
Thanks again for helping us to move this important pro�ect forward
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Edward J Smad
Environmental Scientist
THE LPA GROUP INCORPORATED
A Unit of Michael Baker Corporat�on
4401 Belle Oaks Drive Suite 105
North Charleston SC 29405
843 329 0050
www Ipagroup com
www mbakercorp com
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Lucas, Annette
From Homewood Sue
Sent Friday October 28 2011 1 23 PM
To Kennerly Timothy S
Cc Lucas Annette
Sub�ect RE Mt Airy Surry County Airport Stormwater Management Plan
Tim,
The stormwater plan wdl be reviewed by Annette so I don t know the status I will be reviewing the mitigation plan
From Kennerly, Timothy S [TSKennerly@Ipagroup com]
Sent Friday October 28, 2011 1 17 PM
To Homewood Sue
Sub�ect Mt Airy Surry County Airport Stormwater Management Plan
Good Afternoon Sue
lust wanted to check with you on the status of the review of the Stormwater Management Plan that was submitted for
the Mt Airy Surry County Airport Development Pro�ects? I received an e mail from Brian Lipscomb with the NCDOT
Hydraulics Unit in Raleigh this morning stating that NCDOT has found that the storm water control measures proposed
for the Holly Springs Road Relocation are sufficient in meeting the NCDOT s requirements
I know that the wetlands mitigation plan �s in review with the Corp at this time I do not want the storm water
management plan to be a hold up with receiving the 401/404 permits
If you have any questions please call
Thanks
Tim
Timothy S Kennerly, PE
Pro�ect Manager
Michael Baker Engmeerrng Inc
7800 Airport Center Drrve Suite 100
Greensboro North Carolina 27409
336 931 1500(Office)
336 931 1501 (Fax)
tskennerlv(c�mbakercorp com
www mbakercorp com
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